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This article should mention Fahy's involvement in arguing Korematsu v. U.S., one of the Japanese-American internment decisions. 65.91.71.162 17:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
==Need to re-add removed discussion of Korematsu v. U.S.
This article should also mention that his representation of the government in Korematsu v. U.S. was overturned. There were sections in older copies of this article that mentioned this, but were removed.
The story was described here: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/freedom/2004/06/29/korematsu
A couple important points - this is a Supreme Court case that upheld internment during World War II. - this case was later overturned, because this person did not tell the truth in this case.
Also, why was material like this removed w/ attempting to verify, but someone else can add that he's a Roman Catholic, but there's no substantiation of that claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.206 ( talk) 04:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I am Charles Fahy's great-niece and can confirm that he was indeed Roman Catholic. Efahy ( talk) 11:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Who is "Mmcca", Special:Contributions/Mmcca
and why do they persist in removing any reference to Korematsu and the related legal controversy after his death. If it weren't for other contributors, there would be *no* mention of this case, even though it is clearly the most important issue of his career. As I understand it, this is the only Supreme Court ruling that has ever been overturned with a writ of Coram nobis, so it is notable for more than one reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.5.225 ( talk) 07:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Charles Fahy was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot ( talk) 20:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Can someone help to rename this article? Charles Fahy was my great-uncle, and there is no evidence that he had a middle name. The middle initial of H should be removed. I have previously made edits to the main article to remove use of the H, but am not certain how to rename the article itself. The heading over the photo also displays this middle initial but appears to be autogenerated from the image name. Can the image be renamed to prevent this? Thanks to anyone who can help with this. Efahy ( talk) 11:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure why there is such a push recently to keep this information out. It has been well-documented by reliable sources. I can't find the American Journal of Legal History article online, which the most recent editor to gut this section cited, so I don't know what it says to dispute the previous research — but one source versus pretty much every single other piece of scholarship on the issue is not enough to justify completely removing this information.
Seriously, can we just not? MartinaDee ( talk) 23:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Considering all of the attempts to blank this section seem to have been made by Mmcca, Mmccaaleb — both of whose entire contribution histories are dedicated solely to Charles Fahy — or by two mysterious unregistered users, it seems like the editor(s?) who disapprove of this article mentioning Fahy's misconduct is/are in the minority. Myself and multiple previous editors have repeatedly added cited sources backing up this history. If, as these other editors suggest, this information is "incorrect," they need to provide reliable sources that refute the existing research, not to mention Katyal's formal statement. MartinaDee ( talk) 06:45, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
That seems like an uncontentious proposal, particularly given there are 10 citations in the section. Surely attempts to blank this section (repeated or otherwise) are vandalism, pure and simple? — OwenBlacker ( Talk) 00:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
This history is NOT backed up by the facts, and is why it is has been repeatedly removed. This article completely refutes the allegations made by Peter Irons: See "Solicitor General Charles Fahy and Honorable Defense of the Japanese-American Exclusion Cases," at American Journal of Legal History, Vol. 54, Issue 4 (October 2014). The number of citations in the section are irrelevant, if they all point back to one source, Irons, who is just wrong. I would suggest that the vandalism is in the attempts to leave such incorrect history on this page. Once there is an online version of American Journal of Legal History article, I'll remove the incorrect history, again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.219.223 ( talk) 18:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I think anyone who reads the article "Solicitor General Charles Fahy and Honorable Defense of the Japanese-American Exclusion Cases," American Journal of Legal History, Vol. 54, Issue 4 (October 2014) will agree that it is completely reliable and extremely well-sourced. I do not have an online link to it yet, but I do have a pdf version that I can attach, if that's appropriate. I'll provide a brief summary of the article in the intro to this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmcca ( talk • contribs) 02:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
On the one hand, we have Efahy ( talk · contribs) saying that Fahy was his great-uncle and there was no evidence of a middle name. On the other hand, I've found a 1994 book and a 2003 book that both call him 'Charles H. Fahy' (there are other sources as well, but these two are older than the creation of this article, so we can be sure they weren't influenced by us). So, what should we do? DS ( talk) 18:38, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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This article should mention Fahy's involvement in arguing Korematsu v. U.S., one of the Japanese-American internment decisions. 65.91.71.162 17:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
==Need to re-add removed discussion of Korematsu v. U.S.
This article should also mention that his representation of the government in Korematsu v. U.S. was overturned. There were sections in older copies of this article that mentioned this, but were removed.
The story was described here: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/freedom/2004/06/29/korematsu
A couple important points - this is a Supreme Court case that upheld internment during World War II. - this case was later overturned, because this person did not tell the truth in this case.
Also, why was material like this removed w/ attempting to verify, but someone else can add that he's a Roman Catholic, but there's no substantiation of that claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.206 ( talk) 04:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I am Charles Fahy's great-niece and can confirm that he was indeed Roman Catholic. Efahy ( talk) 11:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Who is "Mmcca", Special:Contributions/Mmcca
and why do they persist in removing any reference to Korematsu and the related legal controversy after his death. If it weren't for other contributors, there would be *no* mention of this case, even though it is clearly the most important issue of his career. As I understand it, this is the only Supreme Court ruling that has ever been overturned with a writ of Coram nobis, so it is notable for more than one reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.5.225 ( talk) 07:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Charles Fahy was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot ( talk) 20:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Can someone help to rename this article? Charles Fahy was my great-uncle, and there is no evidence that he had a middle name. The middle initial of H should be removed. I have previously made edits to the main article to remove use of the H, but am not certain how to rename the article itself. The heading over the photo also displays this middle initial but appears to be autogenerated from the image name. Can the image be renamed to prevent this? Thanks to anyone who can help with this. Efahy ( talk) 11:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure why there is such a push recently to keep this information out. It has been well-documented by reliable sources. I can't find the American Journal of Legal History article online, which the most recent editor to gut this section cited, so I don't know what it says to dispute the previous research — but one source versus pretty much every single other piece of scholarship on the issue is not enough to justify completely removing this information.
Seriously, can we just not? MartinaDee ( talk) 23:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Considering all of the attempts to blank this section seem to have been made by Mmcca, Mmccaaleb — both of whose entire contribution histories are dedicated solely to Charles Fahy — or by two mysterious unregistered users, it seems like the editor(s?) who disapprove of this article mentioning Fahy's misconduct is/are in the minority. Myself and multiple previous editors have repeatedly added cited sources backing up this history. If, as these other editors suggest, this information is "incorrect," they need to provide reliable sources that refute the existing research, not to mention Katyal's formal statement. MartinaDee ( talk) 06:45, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
That seems like an uncontentious proposal, particularly given there are 10 citations in the section. Surely attempts to blank this section (repeated or otherwise) are vandalism, pure and simple? — OwenBlacker ( Talk) 00:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
This history is NOT backed up by the facts, and is why it is has been repeatedly removed. This article completely refutes the allegations made by Peter Irons: See "Solicitor General Charles Fahy and Honorable Defense of the Japanese-American Exclusion Cases," at American Journal of Legal History, Vol. 54, Issue 4 (October 2014). The number of citations in the section are irrelevant, if they all point back to one source, Irons, who is just wrong. I would suggest that the vandalism is in the attempts to leave such incorrect history on this page. Once there is an online version of American Journal of Legal History article, I'll remove the incorrect history, again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.219.223 ( talk) 18:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I think anyone who reads the article "Solicitor General Charles Fahy and Honorable Defense of the Japanese-American Exclusion Cases," American Journal of Legal History, Vol. 54, Issue 4 (October 2014) will agree that it is completely reliable and extremely well-sourced. I do not have an online link to it yet, but I do have a pdf version that I can attach, if that's appropriate. I'll provide a brief summary of the article in the intro to this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmcca ( talk • contribs) 02:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
On the one hand, we have Efahy ( talk · contribs) saying that Fahy was his great-uncle and there was no evidence of a middle name. On the other hand, I've found a 1994 book and a 2003 book that both call him 'Charles H. Fahy' (there are other sources as well, but these two are older than the creation of this article, so we can be sure they weren't influenced by us). So, what should we do? DS ( talk) 18:38, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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