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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Procedural close only, since there appears to be consensus to "pause" the RM so further research can be done on the topic. ( closed by non-admin page mover) OhKayeSierra ( talk) 21:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Charcoal pile →
Charcoal clamp – English name found in reliable sources. The current name seems to be a mistranslation from the German (this article was translated from the German, and uses German-language sources). See
detailed discussion on Commons.
HLHJ (
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03:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Seymour, John (1984). The forgotten crafts (First American ed.). New York.
ISBN
0394539567.{{
cite book}}
: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (
link)
For English terms, it has:
The books' English-speaking sources for this info seem to be in Sussex and Suffolk. HLHJ ( talk) 01:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
The Digital atlas of Traditional Agricultural Practices and Food Processing by Cappers seems to be written by Dutch authors in 2016, the year after this article went up under this name. Just to be quite sure we're not introducing circular reporting, can we find any pre-2015 native-English sources for "charcoal pile"?
I don't recall ever having seen "charcoal pile" in such sources, and orally learning English, I learned the term "charcoal clamp'. I'm sorry I failed to indicate this clearly on the Village Pump, but my "I think this is because... So I think this is a translation error" is my attempting to explain this discrepancy between terms on-wiki and elsewhere. HLHJ ( talk) 01:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
The original German terminology from the translation has, in several cases, been retained where the meaning was not abundantly clear. These words are often archaic and not found in modern dictionaries and so keeping the original enables subsequent editors who are expert in the field of historical charcoal burning and Old German to make any improvements necessary. Bermicourt ( talk) 15:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Procedural close only, since there appears to be consensus to "pause" the RM so further research can be done on the topic. ( closed by non-admin page mover) OhKayeSierra ( talk) 21:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Charcoal pile →
Charcoal clamp – English name found in reliable sources. The current name seems to be a mistranslation from the German (this article was translated from the German, and uses German-language sources). See
detailed discussion on Commons.
HLHJ (
talk)
03:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Seymour, John (1984). The forgotten crafts (First American ed.). New York.
ISBN
0394539567.{{
cite book}}
: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (
link)
For English terms, it has:
The books' English-speaking sources for this info seem to be in Sussex and Suffolk. HLHJ ( talk) 01:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
The Digital atlas of Traditional Agricultural Practices and Food Processing by Cappers seems to be written by Dutch authors in 2016, the year after this article went up under this name. Just to be quite sure we're not introducing circular reporting, can we find any pre-2015 native-English sources for "charcoal pile"?
I don't recall ever having seen "charcoal pile" in such sources, and orally learning English, I learned the term "charcoal clamp'. I'm sorry I failed to indicate this clearly on the Village Pump, but my "I think this is because... So I think this is a translation error" is my attempting to explain this discrepancy between terms on-wiki and elsewhere. HLHJ ( talk) 01:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
The original German terminology from the translation has, in several cases, been retained where the meaning was not abundantly clear. These words are often archaic and not found in modern dictionaries and so keeping the original enables subsequent editors who are expert in the field of historical charcoal burning and Old German to make any improvements necessary. Bermicourt ( talk) 15:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)