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I propose that Chapter 1 (House of Cards) be merged into House of Cards (season 1). I think that the content in the Chapter article can easily be explained in the context of Season 1, and the Season 1 article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Chapter will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Rgrasmus ( talk) 20:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I will begin this review over the weekend. – Quadell ( talk) 18:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
This article is a strong nominee. It's full of well-written and well-sourced information. I have a few issues with the article's organization, with bits that are confusing, and with a few more minor concerns regarding grammar and such. If there are resolved, I believe this will make a fine GA. Issues are detailed below. – Quadell ( talk) 01:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
This article passes all the criteria for GA status, and I am happy to promote it as a certified Good Article. There is still the open issue of how to word Emmy wins in the "Accolades" section, but I am satisfied that the criteria are satisfied regardless. (I'll start a separate discussion on talk to handle this.) Congratulations on this successful GA nomination. – Quadell ( talk) 17:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
The "Accolades" section describes the Emmy nominations and wins for this episode, and it can be a little confusing. (This was discussed in the GA nomination, above.)
First off, TonyTheTiger seemed to express concern about the claim that Episode 1 was "the first Emmy-awarded webisode". (He stated "I am not sure if this was the first webisode to win an Emmy on 9/15 since there are also Daytime Emmy Awards and three other types of Emmys. The language here needs to be precise and I am not sure what it should be.") However, sources like [2] and [3] seem unambiguous on this point. So I don't think that claim needs to be changed.
The open issue is this. In this version of the article, there is an apparent contradiction between the sentences beginning "On September 15" and "On September 22". The first sentence notes that on September 15, the episode won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series, "making [it] the first Emmy-awarded webisode." This is backed up by the sources, and is not in dispute. The second sentence notes several additional Emmy awards that the show received on September 22, "making [it] the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode." I don't believe that the additional awards made "Episode 1" the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode, because I believe it was already the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode back on September 15, when it won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series.
Now it is true that the September 15 award was given at the 65th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards (ceremony), and these Creative Arts Emmy Awards are often considered less prestigious than the awards given at the 65th Primetime Emmy Awards (ceremony) on September 22. But Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards are still Primetime Emmy Awards. (Thus the name "Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series".)
In order to resolve this, I have changed the text to that in this version. I feel it explains the historic win accurately. (I also varied up the prose a little, and removed the "Netflix made history" claim which felt a little unencyclopedic.) – Quadell ( talk) 18:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
August 1, 2013. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that this year,
House of Cards'
Frank and
Claire Underwood were two of the first three
Primetime Emmy Award-nominated
web television leading roles and "
Chapter 1" was the first
webisode to earn such a nomination? |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I propose that Chapter 1 (House of Cards) be merged into House of Cards (season 1). I think that the content in the Chapter article can easily be explained in the context of Season 1, and the Season 1 article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Chapter will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Rgrasmus ( talk) 20:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewing |
Reviewer:
Quadell (
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Nominator:
TonyTheTiger
I will begin this review over the weekend. – Quadell ( talk) 18:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
This article is a strong nominee. It's full of well-written and well-sourced information. I have a few issues with the article's organization, with bits that are confusing, and with a few more minor concerns regarding grammar and such. If there are resolved, I believe this will make a fine GA. Issues are detailed below. – Quadell ( talk) 01:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
This article passes all the criteria for GA status, and I am happy to promote it as a certified Good Article. There is still the open issue of how to word Emmy wins in the "Accolades" section, but I am satisfied that the criteria are satisfied regardless. (I'll start a separate discussion on talk to handle this.) Congratulations on this successful GA nomination. – Quadell ( talk) 17:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
The "Accolades" section describes the Emmy nominations and wins for this episode, and it can be a little confusing. (This was discussed in the GA nomination, above.)
First off, TonyTheTiger seemed to express concern about the claim that Episode 1 was "the first Emmy-awarded webisode". (He stated "I am not sure if this was the first webisode to win an Emmy on 9/15 since there are also Daytime Emmy Awards and three other types of Emmys. The language here needs to be precise and I am not sure what it should be.") However, sources like [2] and [3] seem unambiguous on this point. So I don't think that claim needs to be changed.
The open issue is this. In this version of the article, there is an apparent contradiction between the sentences beginning "On September 15" and "On September 22". The first sentence notes that on September 15, the episode won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series, "making [it] the first Emmy-awarded webisode." This is backed up by the sources, and is not in dispute. The second sentence notes several additional Emmy awards that the show received on September 22, "making [it] the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode." I don't believe that the additional awards made "Episode 1" the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode, because I believe it was already the first Primetime Emmy-awarded webisode back on September 15, when it won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series.
Now it is true that the September 15 award was given at the 65th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards (ceremony), and these Creative Arts Emmy Awards are often considered less prestigious than the awards given at the 65th Primetime Emmy Awards (ceremony) on September 22. But Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards are still Primetime Emmy Awards. (Thus the name "Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series".)
In order to resolve this, I have changed the text to that in this version. I feel it explains the historic win accurately. (I also varied up the prose a little, and removed the "Netflix made history" claim which felt a little unencyclopedic.) – Quadell ( talk) 18:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)