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The lead says that it is known most notably as Chantry Island Lighthouse, can I propose that it is renamed as such, rather than the odd Chantry Island Lightstation Tower which suggests that the article is only about the Tower... Jokulhlaup ( talk) 15:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, both.
@ Sergecross73Please direct me to a WP article that provides a nice, simple explanation as to how to do this. (Start new topic, move all content, .....?) Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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The Chantry Island lighthouse, now completely renovated, was completed in 1859, with Duncan McG. Lambert as the first keeper. http://www.electricscotland.com/history/canada/bruce/chapter38.htm
Was there a keeper prior to him?? Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
True, but the bottom line is that Mills was not the first light keeper. That was McGregor. Cheers! Peter K Burian ( talk) 00:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
This article was not adequate to be even rated as START level.
I did a lot of work on it, adding fully cited content.
Today it was reverted by @ Imasku
18:28, 14 March 2017 Imasku (talk | contribs) m . . (14,086 bytes) (-3,444) . . (Reverted 16 edits by Peter K Burian (talk) to last revision by Jokulhlaup. (TW))
With no explanation. I consider this to be vandalism. Peter K Burian ( talk) 22:11, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
User:Peter K Burian I am not going to fight over this and it appears that is all you wish to do. Maybe you should check cites 7, 13, 21 they are in red. I have researched this article in depth, this is also my home. Most of your add ins, did not have fully cited material -- they where missing titles, links etc. Which is why they came up in red. I am not challenging his work or time spent, I am challenging his content and proof. When I researched this article, there was a lot of material I wanted to add and could not, as I could not locate info that could not be challenged in verifying. Everything I put in this article and proved came directly from the Federal Government. I had to accept it, which is why I made sure website links where added to the article. I am sorry someones pride is hurt over this article, however, I am an historian on this lightstation and a Doctorate Researcher and the Creator of this article. 23:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
"About Chantry Island". Chantry Island. Marine Heritage Society. 2016. Retrieved 28 February 2017.. Check date values in: |access-date= But the rest of the citation is fine.
Chantry Island, ON. Lighthouse Friends http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1048. Retrieved 28 February 2017. "Robert Mills cared for the tower’s temporary light for a season before Duncan McGregor Lambert, who had many years of maritime experience, took charge of the light in 1858. In 1854, Lambert was first mate aboard the steamer Bruce Mines, when it sank near Stokes Bay, and was largely responsible for ushering the crew into two small boats and safely seeing them to Owen Sound, a voyage of over a hundred miles." Missing or empty |title= But the rest of the citation is fine.
"About Chantry Island". Chantry Island. Marine Heritage Society. 2016. Retrieved 28 February 2017.. Check date values in: |access-date= But the rest of the citation is fine.
Lightkeeper's Dwelling, Lighthouse and Shed Imasku - Own work
Camera manufacturer Canon Camera model Canon EOS REBEL T5i Author Tasha Heart Copyright holder Tasha Heart' Peter K Burian ( talk) 11:03, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Shearonink This was a good learning experience for me - on how to not to proceed when another User deletes every word of content that I had added to an article. As you can tell, I was very unhappy when that happened. This has been a good learning experience for me. The Reply from Mediation gave me good direction on how to handle such as situation in future. Yes, I have been on Wikipedia for some time (Created on 16 February 2007 at 13:46) but once in a while I still learn something about procedure. I was involved in mediation in the past, and it went very well, so I know the process can work if I use the approach the Mediators suggested. Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:10, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
I have made a few changes and additions. Fully cited with no problems in the citations. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:42, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
The lead section (also known as the lead or introduction) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and the first heading. The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents.
User:Jokulhlaup I did not get the chance to thank you for adding the lighthouse portal information to this article, which I did not know how to do and was removed by a user on the 15 March. Thank you for restoring it. This article sadly has been destroyed with information altered and removed since February. Wikipedia has the reputation of being an ‘unreputable source of information’ and that will be its legacy which wikipedia has brought upon itself. I have taken steps to ensure this Lightstation will be preserved in another encyclopedia where the information cannot be changed once researched and written and most importantly, the encyclopedia and all its content is considered ‘reputable’. Please do not respond to this message I will be seeking how to permanently delete my account from wikipedia I will not ever return, I have already left such on my user page. Hopefully one day wikipedia will wake up before every article on this site is destroyed. I apologize for not thanking you sooner for your time, energy and work on this article, it has been greatly appreciated. Imasku ( talk) 13:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello there. I'd like to offer help in trying to get some resolution here on this subject. I see there's many arguments over content. If editors agree to comment strictly on content and not editors, and go through points they want added or removed bit by bit, I'd be happy to help. I emphasize the bit by bit part though - issues like this need to be addressed one point at a time, as to not create giant walls of text where issues that are too overwhelming to read and fully address.
What say you? Imasku? Peter K Burian? I see no reason why this can't be hashed out with calm, rational discussion. We're talking about a Tower, not some sort of multi-faceted, bias prone, sensitive topic like religion or politics. Please give your brief thoughts below. Sergecross73 msg me 15:45, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Duncan McGregor Lambert Collection: about Duncan Lambert (first lighthouse keeper) - Bruce County Museum www.brucemuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/Chantry-Island-Finding-Aid.pdf
An excerpt from the book, History of the County of Bruce, Ontario, Canada By Norman Robertson (1906) The lighthouse at Chantry Island, a circular stone structure, that exhibits its light at a height 94 feet ... Lambert was the first lighthouse-keper Quoted at http://www.electricscotland.com/history/canada/bruce/chapter38.htm
A temporary fixed light was established atop the lantern-less tower in 1857,... Robert Mills cared for the tower’s temporary light for a season http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1048
Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:02, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Temporarily collapsing "Issue 2" while we resolve "Issue 1" first.
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Other content that I had added was also deleted in the major Revert (March 14), but the two above are the only ones that I feel very strongly about. Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
The article body says "The Chantry Island Lightstation Tower was formally recognized as a Classified Federal Heritage Building on 14 November 1991." whilst the lead section says "The tower is a Classified Federal Heritage Building due to its historic, architectural and environmental value. It was listed on The Canadian Register of Historic Places on 22 July 2005." which is correct I wonder? Theroadislong ( talk) 15:15, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
1991: The Chantry Island Lightstation Tower was designated Classified
2005: LISTED ON THE CANADIAN REGISTER: 2005/07/22
Revision is done. It now discusses both designations, with both citations. I also reworded the body of the text (paraphrased) since it was almost verbatim from the government document. Peter K Burian ( talk) 16:11, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Peter, I added the Chantry Island Lightstation article into the Category:Lighthouses on the Canadian Register of Historic Places on the 16 March. It is not in Category:Lighthouses on the National Historic Sites of Canada register as it does not have the higher designation AFAIK. Jokulhlaup (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Peter K Burian ( talk) 18:45, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I have asked them to rate the Importance of this article fairly highly. They may also review the rating of the Quality. /info/en/?search=Portal:Lighthouses — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter K Burian ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. @ Theroadislong
We had an Edit Conflict a few minutes ago. I hope that did not mess up the format of the citations you had provided. I am working on several of the articles about the Imperial Lighthouses and have not had time to fix the formatting. Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:27, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
e.g. "Waterloo Township". Waterloo Region Museum Research. Region of Waterloo. 4 March 2013. Retrieved 13 March 2017.</ref>
If you are interested in editing lighthouse articles, see these five related articles too:
History of Lighthouses in Canada
Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
The document she recommends is raw data but might be useful in a list of References for people to read if they want a great deal more data: CCG-788 designation (Canadian Coast Guard) which is not easy to locate: https://www.notmar.gc.ca/publications/list-livre/inlandwaters-eauxinter/i768e.pdf Peter K Burian ( talk) 22:29, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I did read https://www.notmar.gc.ca/publications/list-livre/inlandwaters-eauxinter/i768e.pdf That is how I know it is raw data, six pages of it. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Has anyone actually read, what you have now done? This article in several different paragraphs says the very same thing just re-worded differently. Why did you not just leave the article alone. I will say it again, thanks for destroying this article. Imasku ( talk) 02:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The 1906 book, The history of the county of Bruce and of the minor municipalities therein, Province of Ontario, Canada, by Robertson, Norman, 1845-1936, is available online. The section about the lighthouse (Chapter 38) is very brief: [1] Peter K Burian ( talk) 16:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
These are the templates an Admin found for me several years ago. Note the Cite does not start with a captital C.
four templates that can basically be used to make consistent citations for any source you can think of:
/info/en/?search=Template:Cite_book /info/en/?search=Template:Cite_web /info/en/?search=Template:Cite_news
[User:Peter K Burian|Peter K Burian]] ( talk) 23:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The following sentence makes no sense..."Information regarding the Chantry Island Lightstation Tower can be seen in the Ghostly Guardians of the Bruce Coast, were Lake Huron and Georgian Bay, very treacherous lakes at certain times of year." Theroadislong ( talk) 17:06, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I did not add that section. Hmm... it was an 2009 exhibit http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/2009/06/30/exhibit-sheds-a-new-light
I will check whether it is relevant in 2017.
It's a sunny, spring-like day here so am not spending much time indoors. Will take a look at it tonight Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:57, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Should be present tense; I cannot find that section now, so please change to present. Yes both are perilous in the fall. Numerous shipwrecks on Huron and on Georgian Bay. See [2] and [3]
Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am so disappointed in the altering from course of this article which took me 6 months of research before it was written. It has been sent to another encyclopedia and will remain permanently listed on my own personal website to preserve its heritage. Imasku ( talk) 17:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
If Imasku copied a version that she had written, without edits by other users, she would not need to make any attribution, IMHO. Until recently, all of the edits by other users seemed to be fixing citations and other minor errors, not adding content to the article. If so, would attribution be necessary, @ Theroadislong Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I see that Imasku made a very significant addition that was reverted by user:theroadislong with a request that such a large change should first be discussed on the Talk page.
That was then reverted by Imasku. I have reverted that, also asking that the planned revision be discussed on the Talk page. My main concern is that a large paragraph debating the name of the article should not be in the lead section which would then be too long. (Do we need such a long treatise on lighthouse vs. station?)
Before this turns into an Edit War, WP:EDITWAR, we need an independent Administrator to help us get a consensus. @: user:Sergecross73, can you help us again? Thanks, Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I filed a detailed complaint to all this 21 March 2017 with wikipedia.
I've removed most of the commentary about the name. The article itself isn't the place to make a statement or argument about the naming. More over, the relevant policy is WP:COMMONNAME, which the text even noted that the common name (wrongly or not) was Chantry Island Lighthouse. As a compromise, I've added a note to the lead for the official name. The move appears to have been correctly executed based on discussion and policy however. -- ferret ( talk) 19:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
A great deal of this article appears to talk about Chantry Island, rather than the lighthouse. I recommend this information be removed from this article and moved to the island's article. For example, almost all of the section named "Currently" is about the island, not the lighthouse. -- ferret ( talk) 19:49, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Right, the correct title of the other page is Chantry Island (Ontario).. Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@ PKT Please check the rating for this article in terms of Quality. Thanks, Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:18, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Ferrett Yeah, I forgot about the Infobox. I have never created one so I wonder if you could help. It would be very much like the one for Point Clark Lighthouse .... But where do we get this type of info?
Characteristic Fl W 10s.
CHS number CCG 782
ARLHS number CAN-388
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
The citation re: native land claims is not to a forum but a Media Release by the First nations. It is the only neat summary I could find of all the claims.
http://www.turtleisland.org/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=2116
Nawash/Saugeen First Nations Launch Aboriginal Title Lawsuit Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:16 pm
Nawash & Saugeen FNs lay claim to the lake bed of Lake Huron and Georgian Bay
Peter K Burian ( talk) 13:57, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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The lead says that it is known most notably as Chantry Island Lighthouse, can I propose that it is renamed as such, rather than the odd Chantry Island Lightstation Tower which suggests that the article is only about the Tower... Jokulhlaup ( talk) 15:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, both.
@ Sergecross73Please direct me to a WP article that provides a nice, simple explanation as to how to do this. (Start new topic, move all content, .....?) Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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Source says:
The Chantry Island lighthouse, now completely renovated, was completed in 1859, with Duncan McG. Lambert as the first keeper. http://www.electricscotland.com/history/canada/bruce/chapter38.htm
Was there a keeper prior to him?? Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
True, but the bottom line is that Mills was not the first light keeper. That was McGregor. Cheers! Peter K Burian ( talk) 00:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
This article was not adequate to be even rated as START level.
I did a lot of work on it, adding fully cited content.
Today it was reverted by @ Imasku
18:28, 14 March 2017 Imasku (talk | contribs) m . . (14,086 bytes) (-3,444) . . (Reverted 16 edits by Peter K Burian (talk) to last revision by Jokulhlaup. (TW))
With no explanation. I consider this to be vandalism. Peter K Burian ( talk) 22:11, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
User:Peter K Burian I am not going to fight over this and it appears that is all you wish to do. Maybe you should check cites 7, 13, 21 they are in red. I have researched this article in depth, this is also my home. Most of your add ins, did not have fully cited material -- they where missing titles, links etc. Which is why they came up in red. I am not challenging his work or time spent, I am challenging his content and proof. When I researched this article, there was a lot of material I wanted to add and could not, as I could not locate info that could not be challenged in verifying. Everything I put in this article and proved came directly from the Federal Government. I had to accept it, which is why I made sure website links where added to the article. I am sorry someones pride is hurt over this article, however, I am an historian on this lightstation and a Doctorate Researcher and the Creator of this article. 23:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
"About Chantry Island". Chantry Island. Marine Heritage Society. 2016. Retrieved 28 February 2017.. Check date values in: |access-date= But the rest of the citation is fine.
Chantry Island, ON. Lighthouse Friends http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1048. Retrieved 28 February 2017. "Robert Mills cared for the tower’s temporary light for a season before Duncan McGregor Lambert, who had many years of maritime experience, took charge of the light in 1858. In 1854, Lambert was first mate aboard the steamer Bruce Mines, when it sank near Stokes Bay, and was largely responsible for ushering the crew into two small boats and safely seeing them to Owen Sound, a voyage of over a hundred miles." Missing or empty |title= But the rest of the citation is fine.
"About Chantry Island". Chantry Island. Marine Heritage Society. 2016. Retrieved 28 February 2017.. Check date values in: |access-date= But the rest of the citation is fine.
Lightkeeper's Dwelling, Lighthouse and Shed Imasku - Own work
Camera manufacturer Canon Camera model Canon EOS REBEL T5i Author Tasha Heart Copyright holder Tasha Heart' Peter K Burian ( talk) 11:03, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Shearonink This was a good learning experience for me - on how to not to proceed when another User deletes every word of content that I had added to an article. As you can tell, I was very unhappy when that happened. This has been a good learning experience for me. The Reply from Mediation gave me good direction on how to handle such as situation in future. Yes, I have been on Wikipedia for some time (Created on 16 February 2007 at 13:46) but once in a while I still learn something about procedure. I was involved in mediation in the past, and it went very well, so I know the process can work if I use the approach the Mediators suggested. Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:10, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
I have made a few changes and additions. Fully cited with no problems in the citations. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:42, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
The lead section (also known as the lead or introduction) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and the first heading. The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents.
User:Jokulhlaup I did not get the chance to thank you for adding the lighthouse portal information to this article, which I did not know how to do and was removed by a user on the 15 March. Thank you for restoring it. This article sadly has been destroyed with information altered and removed since February. Wikipedia has the reputation of being an ‘unreputable source of information’ and that will be its legacy which wikipedia has brought upon itself. I have taken steps to ensure this Lightstation will be preserved in another encyclopedia where the information cannot be changed once researched and written and most importantly, the encyclopedia and all its content is considered ‘reputable’. Please do not respond to this message I will be seeking how to permanently delete my account from wikipedia I will not ever return, I have already left such on my user page. Hopefully one day wikipedia will wake up before every article on this site is destroyed. I apologize for not thanking you sooner for your time, energy and work on this article, it has been greatly appreciated. Imasku ( talk) 13:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello there. I'd like to offer help in trying to get some resolution here on this subject. I see there's many arguments over content. If editors agree to comment strictly on content and not editors, and go through points they want added or removed bit by bit, I'd be happy to help. I emphasize the bit by bit part though - issues like this need to be addressed one point at a time, as to not create giant walls of text where issues that are too overwhelming to read and fully address.
What say you? Imasku? Peter K Burian? I see no reason why this can't be hashed out with calm, rational discussion. We're talking about a Tower, not some sort of multi-faceted, bias prone, sensitive topic like religion or politics. Please give your brief thoughts below. Sergecross73 msg me 15:45, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Duncan McGregor Lambert Collection: about Duncan Lambert (first lighthouse keeper) - Bruce County Museum www.brucemuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/Chantry-Island-Finding-Aid.pdf
An excerpt from the book, History of the County of Bruce, Ontario, Canada By Norman Robertson (1906) The lighthouse at Chantry Island, a circular stone structure, that exhibits its light at a height 94 feet ... Lambert was the first lighthouse-keper Quoted at http://www.electricscotland.com/history/canada/bruce/chapter38.htm
A temporary fixed light was established atop the lantern-less tower in 1857,... Robert Mills cared for the tower’s temporary light for a season http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1048
Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:02, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Temporarily collapsing "Issue 2" while we resolve "Issue 1" first.
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Other content that I had added was also deleted in the major Revert (March 14), but the two above are the only ones that I feel very strongly about. Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
The article body says "The Chantry Island Lightstation Tower was formally recognized as a Classified Federal Heritage Building on 14 November 1991." whilst the lead section says "The tower is a Classified Federal Heritage Building due to its historic, architectural and environmental value. It was listed on The Canadian Register of Historic Places on 22 July 2005." which is correct I wonder? Theroadislong ( talk) 15:15, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
1991: The Chantry Island Lightstation Tower was designated Classified
2005: LISTED ON THE CANADIAN REGISTER: 2005/07/22
Revision is done. It now discusses both designations, with both citations. I also reworded the body of the text (paraphrased) since it was almost verbatim from the government document. Peter K Burian ( talk) 16:11, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Peter, I added the Chantry Island Lightstation article into the Category:Lighthouses on the Canadian Register of Historic Places on the 16 March. It is not in Category:Lighthouses on the National Historic Sites of Canada register as it does not have the higher designation AFAIK. Jokulhlaup (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Peter K Burian ( talk) 18:45, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I have asked them to rate the Importance of this article fairly highly. They may also review the rating of the Quality. /info/en/?search=Portal:Lighthouses — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter K Burian ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. @ Theroadislong
We had an Edit Conflict a few minutes ago. I hope that did not mess up the format of the citations you had provided. I am working on several of the articles about the Imperial Lighthouses and have not had time to fix the formatting. Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:27, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
e.g. "Waterloo Township". Waterloo Region Museum Research. Region of Waterloo. 4 March 2013. Retrieved 13 March 2017.</ref>
If you are interested in editing lighthouse articles, see these five related articles too:
History of Lighthouses in Canada
Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
The document she recommends is raw data but might be useful in a list of References for people to read if they want a great deal more data: CCG-788 designation (Canadian Coast Guard) which is not easy to locate: https://www.notmar.gc.ca/publications/list-livre/inlandwaters-eauxinter/i768e.pdf Peter K Burian ( talk) 22:29, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I did read https://www.notmar.gc.ca/publications/list-livre/inlandwaters-eauxinter/i768e.pdf That is how I know it is raw data, six pages of it. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Has anyone actually read, what you have now done? This article in several different paragraphs says the very same thing just re-worded differently. Why did you not just leave the article alone. I will say it again, thanks for destroying this article. Imasku ( talk) 02:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The 1906 book, The history of the county of Bruce and of the minor municipalities therein, Province of Ontario, Canada, by Robertson, Norman, 1845-1936, is available online. The section about the lighthouse (Chapter 38) is very brief: [1] Peter K Burian ( talk) 16:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
These are the templates an Admin found for me several years ago. Note the Cite does not start with a captital C.
four templates that can basically be used to make consistent citations for any source you can think of:
/info/en/?search=Template:Cite_book /info/en/?search=Template:Cite_web /info/en/?search=Template:Cite_news
[User:Peter K Burian|Peter K Burian]] ( talk) 23:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The following sentence makes no sense..."Information regarding the Chantry Island Lightstation Tower can be seen in the Ghostly Guardians of the Bruce Coast, were Lake Huron and Georgian Bay, very treacherous lakes at certain times of year." Theroadislong ( talk) 17:06, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I did not add that section. Hmm... it was an 2009 exhibit http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/2009/06/30/exhibit-sheds-a-new-light
I will check whether it is relevant in 2017.
It's a sunny, spring-like day here so am not spending much time indoors. Will take a look at it tonight Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:57, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Should be present tense; I cannot find that section now, so please change to present. Yes both are perilous in the fall. Numerous shipwrecks on Huron and on Georgian Bay. See [2] and [3]
Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am so disappointed in the altering from course of this article which took me 6 months of research before it was written. It has been sent to another encyclopedia and will remain permanently listed on my own personal website to preserve its heritage. Imasku ( talk) 17:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
If Imasku copied a version that she had written, without edits by other users, she would not need to make any attribution, IMHO. Until recently, all of the edits by other users seemed to be fixing citations and other minor errors, not adding content to the article. If so, would attribution be necessary, @ Theroadislong Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I see that Imasku made a very significant addition that was reverted by user:theroadislong with a request that such a large change should first be discussed on the Talk page.
That was then reverted by Imasku. I have reverted that, also asking that the planned revision be discussed on the Talk page. My main concern is that a large paragraph debating the name of the article should not be in the lead section which would then be too long. (Do we need such a long treatise on lighthouse vs. station?)
Before this turns into an Edit War, WP:EDITWAR, we need an independent Administrator to help us get a consensus. @: user:Sergecross73, can you help us again? Thanks, Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I filed a detailed complaint to all this 21 March 2017 with wikipedia.
I've removed most of the commentary about the name. The article itself isn't the place to make a statement or argument about the naming. More over, the relevant policy is WP:COMMONNAME, which the text even noted that the common name (wrongly or not) was Chantry Island Lighthouse. As a compromise, I've added a note to the lead for the official name. The move appears to have been correctly executed based on discussion and policy however. -- ferret ( talk) 19:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
A great deal of this article appears to talk about Chantry Island, rather than the lighthouse. I recommend this information be removed from this article and moved to the island's article. For example, almost all of the section named "Currently" is about the island, not the lighthouse. -- ferret ( talk) 19:49, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Right, the correct title of the other page is Chantry Island (Ontario).. Peter K Burian ( talk) 20:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@ PKT Please check the rating for this article in terms of Quality. Thanks, Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:18, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Ferrett Yeah, I forgot about the Infobox. I have never created one so I wonder if you could help. It would be very much like the one for Point Clark Lighthouse .... But where do we get this type of info?
Characteristic Fl W 10s.
CHS number CCG 782
ARLHS number CAN-388
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
The citation re: native land claims is not to a forum but a Media Release by the First nations. It is the only neat summary I could find of all the claims.
http://www.turtleisland.org/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=2116
Nawash/Saugeen First Nations Launch Aboriginal Title Lawsuit Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:16 pm
Nawash & Saugeen FNs lay claim to the lake bed of Lake Huron and Georgian Bay
Peter K Burian ( talk) 13:57, 3 April 2017 (UTC)