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What is said here is apparently true across the board for British universities, but not at all for American ones. The title "President" is more common than "Chancellor" in American schools, but there is no meaningful, accepted distinction between the two. In American universities the president/chancellor of the university is in general indeed the de facto chief executive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.248.55 ( talk) 02:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Comparing this page with that for Vice-chancellor, I notice that one cites CSU as a typical example, the other as a counterexample. Which is right?
The University of Tennessee has a system-wide president who handles the administrative and legislative affairs of the university's three main campuses and numerous satellite facilities. The heads of UT Martin, UT Chattanooga and UT Knoxville (the main campus) are chancellors. There have been times in history, however, that the UT president would also assume the role of UT Knoxville chancellor. YearginSM 08:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
As there are so many different names, it might make sense to go with the actual function as the name of the article. The function of the Chancellor, Vice-Chancellor, President or Principal is "chief executive of a university" so University chief executive would be clearer. SilkTork * YES! 17:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I challenge the statement "In the form used in countries such as the United States, the Chancellor is the chief executive of a university." This is simply not true. In the vast, vast majority of American universities and colleges, the chief executive is the President. Look at any random dozen entries from Category:Universities and colleges in the United States and the chief executive is virtually always the president. Actually, the main use of "chancellor" in the United States is in large multi-university systems, and within such system the practice varies, as already reflected in the article. In some cases, like the University of California system, the system is run by a president and each individual campus is headed by a chancellor. In other cases, like the California State University system, the opposite is true: the overall head is a chancellor and each individual campus is headed by a president. In still other cases like the University of Texas system, the overall head of the system and the heads of the individual campuses are all presidents. But as for freestanding American universities and colleges, it's hard to even find an example where the chief executive is a Chancellor. If someone can come up with a few examples of such, it might suggest how to reword this section. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
74.83.35.137 ( talk) 00:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Considering that the other names for a top leader of a university mentioned in the article, namely Rector (academia) and Principal (academia), have their own Wikipedia articles, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that we don't have an article for University president. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)\
Just to throw my two bits in. I strongly concur with the apparent consensus that the University President article needs to be restored. I was recently performing research on this topic and was utterly stymied by the redirection to a page that forces non-standard nomenclature on the US system. Typical users will not be able to make sense of the current article, and US users will be disappointed in their search for information on the US system. Perhaps a good compromise would be to create an article titled University President (United States) and use a disambiguation page to help those searching for the varying international models. Greg.Hartley ( talk)15:11, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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University of Pittsburgh is not a "stand-alone" institution. Including the main campus in Pittsburgh there are five campuses. Hmmmm... I wonder if the distinction wasn't so much about branch campuses of a single university but about independent institutions within broader systems, such as Pennsylvania's Commonwealth System of Higher Education. I might have misunderstood something (it's been known to happen!!). PurpleChez ( talk) 15:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
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What is said here is apparently true across the board for British universities, but not at all for American ones. The title "President" is more common than "Chancellor" in American schools, but there is no meaningful, accepted distinction between the two. In American universities the president/chancellor of the university is in general indeed the de facto chief executive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.248.55 ( talk) 02:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Comparing this page with that for Vice-chancellor, I notice that one cites CSU as a typical example, the other as a counterexample. Which is right?
The University of Tennessee has a system-wide president who handles the administrative and legislative affairs of the university's three main campuses and numerous satellite facilities. The heads of UT Martin, UT Chattanooga and UT Knoxville (the main campus) are chancellors. There have been times in history, however, that the UT president would also assume the role of UT Knoxville chancellor. YearginSM 08:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
As there are so many different names, it might make sense to go with the actual function as the name of the article. The function of the Chancellor, Vice-Chancellor, President or Principal is "chief executive of a university" so University chief executive would be clearer. SilkTork * YES! 17:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I challenge the statement "In the form used in countries such as the United States, the Chancellor is the chief executive of a university." This is simply not true. In the vast, vast majority of American universities and colleges, the chief executive is the President. Look at any random dozen entries from Category:Universities and colleges in the United States and the chief executive is virtually always the president. Actually, the main use of "chancellor" in the United States is in large multi-university systems, and within such system the practice varies, as already reflected in the article. In some cases, like the University of California system, the system is run by a president and each individual campus is headed by a chancellor. In other cases, like the California State University system, the opposite is true: the overall head is a chancellor and each individual campus is headed by a president. In still other cases like the University of Texas system, the overall head of the system and the heads of the individual campuses are all presidents. But as for freestanding American universities and colleges, it's hard to even find an example where the chief executive is a Chancellor. If someone can come up with a few examples of such, it might suggest how to reword this section. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
74.83.35.137 ( talk) 00:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Considering that the other names for a top leader of a university mentioned in the article, namely Rector (academia) and Principal (academia), have their own Wikipedia articles, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that we don't have an article for University president. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)\
Just to throw my two bits in. I strongly concur with the apparent consensus that the University President article needs to be restored. I was recently performing research on this topic and was utterly stymied by the redirection to a page that forces non-standard nomenclature on the US system. Typical users will not be able to make sense of the current article, and US users will be disappointed in their search for information on the US system. Perhaps a good compromise would be to create an article titled University President (United States) and use a disambiguation page to help those searching for the varying international models. Greg.Hartley ( talk)15:11, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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University of Pittsburgh is not a "stand-alone" institution. Including the main campus in Pittsburgh there are five campuses. Hmmmm... I wonder if the distinction wasn't so much about branch campuses of a single university but about independent institutions within broader systems, such as Pennsylvania's Commonwealth System of Higher Education. I might have misunderstood something (it's been known to happen!!). PurpleChez ( talk) 15:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)