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"It has been recognised by the haredi community since the passing of Rav Steinman in December 2017, that Rav Chaim Kanievsky and Rav Gershon Edelstein are the leaders of the haredi community." - this makes no sense as a statement ... the Haredi community is hardly coherent enough to have one or even two leaders (e.g., Chabad and Belzer have a history of 'tensions' with Satmar). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trachten ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Why should anyone who bans the internet be allowed an entry on an internet resource such as Wikipedia? 216.195.89.59 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
In 2016, Kanievsky declared that medicinal cannabis was kosher for Passover. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
Another editor objected to this cited inclusion. I ask them to justify that deletion, since though the subject has made thousands of rulings, this particular one received significant international media attention. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 21:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Why is there even a "statements and ruling" section at all? It's not needed, and if we are going to have it, why are there only two items listed? Get rid of the whole section, and perhaps you can have a sentence like "he has ruled on a variety of issues, from sexual abuse, marijuana to what color shirts to wear, to how many times to blink per minute, etc." Sir Joseph (talk) 16:26, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
The section is ridiculous and should be removed. It looks like the two things mentioned, one of which is mundane beyond belief for a rabbi of his kind, are the things he's most famous for. As such, this is a breach of UNDUE and the whole section should be deleted. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 17:00, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I did a general GoogleNews search on "chaim kanievsky rulings" to see which rulings of his have gotten the most press, and thus meet WP:Notability. I suggest adding the following:
In 2012, Kanievsky ruled that is is forbidden to possess or use an iPhone, and that owners are not allowed to sell their phones, but should instead burn them. [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] In 2015, he instructed United Hatzalah paramedics that in the event of a terrorist attack, they should not treat the terrorists before the victims, even if the terrorist is more seriously injured, and could even leave the terrorist to die. [18] [19]
Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 03:19, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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Please see the discussion here. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 14:58, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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Where is the source of his date of birth? I have seen different DOB in different places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NathanFuzz ( talk • contribs) 17:24, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Rabbi Kanievsky was known as the "minister of the Torah" (שר התורה) and not as the "prince of the Torah" (נסיך התורה). דגן דיגן ( talk) 09:54, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
There is little information on this page about Rabbi Kanievsky's daily and yearly learning schedule - the features about him that make him distinct from other rabbis, and actually describe how he lived his life. Instead, the page mostly contains biographical events and halachic rulings that touch on hot-button issues.
There are 5,368 pages of text in the Talmud Bavli alone. One doesn't learn Talmud by just translating the text; one has to study it in depth, connect it to other far away sections, ask questions, resolve contradictions, learn the commentaries and do the same things to them... The average person takes several decades to do this once. He would do it in one year, if not less - every year.
He did this also with Talmud Yerushalmi - which is far more difficult than Bavli - and which has over 2000 pages itself.
And Mishna (over 2000 mishnayos). And Nach (742 chapters). And Zohar (over 1500 pages). And Shulchan Aruch (over 1500 chapters). And Tosefta. And Midrash. And more. This would total to more than 10,000 pages of material a year, studied in-depth.
His daily schedule totaled over 20 hours (4 hours to sleep).
This fact is significant because:
1) it explains why he didn't hold any official position, and why people would visit him in his home while he was learning - he would study for hours every single day;
2) this level of scholarship among rabbis hasn't been seen in a long time, and is an anomaly among all people in general;
3) it explains why he was so highly revered as a halachic authority, and spiritual figure.
Without noting his schedule, these facts about him go without explanation in the article - putting aside the noteworthiness of the schedule itself. Shibolet Nehrd ( talk) 20:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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"It has been recognised by the haredi community since the passing of Rav Steinman in December 2017, that Rav Chaim Kanievsky and Rav Gershon Edelstein are the leaders of the haredi community." - this makes no sense as a statement ... the Haredi community is hardly coherent enough to have one or even two leaders (e.g., Chabad and Belzer have a history of 'tensions' with Satmar). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trachten ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Why should anyone who bans the internet be allowed an entry on an internet resource such as Wikipedia? 216.195.89.59 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
In 2016, Kanievsky declared that medicinal cannabis was kosher for Passover. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
Another editor objected to this cited inclusion. I ask them to justify that deletion, since though the subject has made thousands of rulings, this particular one received significant international media attention. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 21:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Why is there even a "statements and ruling" section at all? It's not needed, and if we are going to have it, why are there only two items listed? Get rid of the whole section, and perhaps you can have a sentence like "he has ruled on a variety of issues, from sexual abuse, marijuana to what color shirts to wear, to how many times to blink per minute, etc." Sir Joseph (talk) 16:26, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
The section is ridiculous and should be removed. It looks like the two things mentioned, one of which is mundane beyond belief for a rabbi of his kind, are the things he's most famous for. As such, this is a breach of UNDUE and the whole section should be deleted. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 17:00, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I did a general GoogleNews search on "chaim kanievsky rulings" to see which rulings of his have gotten the most press, and thus meet WP:Notability. I suggest adding the following:
In 2012, Kanievsky ruled that is is forbidden to possess or use an iPhone, and that owners are not allowed to sell their phones, but should instead burn them. [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] In 2015, he instructed United Hatzalah paramedics that in the event of a terrorist attack, they should not treat the terrorists before the victims, even if the terrorist is more seriously injured, and could even leave the terrorist to die. [18] [19]
Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 03:19, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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Please see the discussion here. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney ( talk) 14:58, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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Where is the source of his date of birth? I have seen different DOB in different places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NathanFuzz ( talk • contribs) 17:24, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Sources and more information are needed for such things as:
The claim of R' Chaim having had ruach hakodesh
R' Chiam's book-writing schedule (that he did much of it during Jewish leap years)
His family life (such as the "games" he would play with his children.)
Thank you. Shibolet Nehrd ( talk) 21:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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Rabbi Kanievsky was known as the "minister of the Torah" (שר התורה) and not as the "prince of the Torah" (נסיך התורה). דגן דיגן ( talk) 09:54, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
There is little information on this page about Rabbi Kanievsky's daily and yearly learning schedule - the features about him that make him distinct from other rabbis, and actually describe how he lived his life. Instead, the page mostly contains biographical events and halachic rulings that touch on hot-button issues.
There are 5,368 pages of text in the Talmud Bavli alone. One doesn't learn Talmud by just translating the text; one has to study it in depth, connect it to other far away sections, ask questions, resolve contradictions, learn the commentaries and do the same things to them... The average person takes several decades to do this once. He would do it in one year, if not less - every year.
He did this also with Talmud Yerushalmi - which is far more difficult than Bavli - and which has over 2000 pages itself.
And Mishna (over 2000 mishnayos). And Nach (742 chapters). And Zohar (over 1500 pages). And Shulchan Aruch (over 1500 chapters). And Tosefta. And Midrash. And more. This would total to more than 10,000 pages of material a year, studied in-depth.
His daily schedule totaled over 20 hours (4 hours to sleep).
This fact is significant because:
1) it explains why he didn't hold any official position, and why people would visit him in his home while he was learning - he would study for hours every single day;
2) this level of scholarship among rabbis hasn't been seen in a long time, and is an anomaly among all people in general;
3) it explains why he was so highly revered as a halachic authority, and spiritual figure.
Without noting his schedule, these facts about him go without explanation in the article - putting aside the noteworthiness of the schedule itself. Shibolet Nehrd ( talk) 20:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)