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Re: "...and more recently the Ambassador of the United States in Paris, Clarence Douglas Dillon, who was also Minister of Finance in the U.S. ..."
The US doesn't have a Ministry of Finance. Perhaps the author meant Secretary of the Treasury?
Coming to this article from the outside, I was struck by how the poor performance of Ch Haut-Brion was accentuated in the "The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 and other major competitions" subsection. Why is the poor performance of this wine in competitions accentuated, especially, it seems to promote Californian wines in every example? As I look at the Stag's Leap Wine Cellars page I don't see an extensive list of that wineries failures, but again I see more referencing to poor performance of French wines. Does someone have a chip on their shoulder here? I'm going to dig into the edit history a bit, but in my mind most of that whole subsection should be wiped out. The alternative is that I go and start digging up dirt on every major Californian wine I can think of. Seriously, who thought this was even-handed? We understand that California wines are serious and of high quality. We understand that the storming of the world wine stage by California wineries is a very important event in the greater world of wine. But only a child needs to prove himself by tearing down his peers. -- BridgeBurner 06:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
In the opening: "Since 2003, Domaine Clarence Dillon's daughter company...". But what is Domaine Clarence Dillon? It should have been introduced earlier for this to make sense. From reading the whole article, I'm still not entirely clear, though presumably Domaine Clarence Dillon is the owner of Haut-Brion, which makes this a reference to a sister company (and so, why is it here rather than in the article for the parent company)? Or is Haut Brion not a company but a brand? Not at all clear. Ah, it is cleared up a bit more by searching Wikipedia and finding there is an article for Domain Clarence Dillon, but I probably shouldn't need to do that. 86.152.243.181 ( talk) 19:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Following a competition launched by [Chateau Haut-Brion] owner Prince Robert of Luxembourg, a medieval history researcher in Bordeaux found a written mention of Haut-Brion dated 21 January 1521.
That indicates the Graves first growth estate’s wines have been highly prized for around 500 years.
The document, found by art historian Laurent Chavier, is the sale of an annuity worth 400 Bordeaux francs, the equivalent today of around €50,000. It is drafted in French – rather than Gascon – by Maitre Hamelin Gemisson. The borrower, Jean de Monque, promises to deliver each year ‘four pipes of wine from the vineyard of Aubrion’, as part of repayment.
Until now, the earliest known mention of Haut-Brion was in the English National Archives at Kew, London. It features in King Charles II’s cellar book in 1660, the year of his Restoration to the English throne. It is also mentioned in the diary of parliamentarian Samuel Pepys, from the same era.
Read more at http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/587597/haut-brion-history-dates-back-500-years-new-research-shows#71ezkWU0VfIlcbjP.99 http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/587597/haut-brion-history-dates-back-500-years-new-research-shows
Methinks this should be mentioned and sourced here somewhere, somehow. Not knowing how best to do it, I would be glad to defer to others' editing wisdom and skill. Dadofsam ( talk) 20:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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Re: "...and more recently the Ambassador of the United States in Paris, Clarence Douglas Dillon, who was also Minister of Finance in the U.S. ..."
The US doesn't have a Ministry of Finance. Perhaps the author meant Secretary of the Treasury?
Coming to this article from the outside, I was struck by how the poor performance of Ch Haut-Brion was accentuated in the "The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 and other major competitions" subsection. Why is the poor performance of this wine in competitions accentuated, especially, it seems to promote Californian wines in every example? As I look at the Stag's Leap Wine Cellars page I don't see an extensive list of that wineries failures, but again I see more referencing to poor performance of French wines. Does someone have a chip on their shoulder here? I'm going to dig into the edit history a bit, but in my mind most of that whole subsection should be wiped out. The alternative is that I go and start digging up dirt on every major Californian wine I can think of. Seriously, who thought this was even-handed? We understand that California wines are serious and of high quality. We understand that the storming of the world wine stage by California wineries is a very important event in the greater world of wine. But only a child needs to prove himself by tearing down his peers. -- BridgeBurner 06:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
In the opening: "Since 2003, Domaine Clarence Dillon's daughter company...". But what is Domaine Clarence Dillon? It should have been introduced earlier for this to make sense. From reading the whole article, I'm still not entirely clear, though presumably Domaine Clarence Dillon is the owner of Haut-Brion, which makes this a reference to a sister company (and so, why is it here rather than in the article for the parent company)? Or is Haut Brion not a company but a brand? Not at all clear. Ah, it is cleared up a bit more by searching Wikipedia and finding there is an article for Domain Clarence Dillon, but I probably shouldn't need to do that. 86.152.243.181 ( talk) 19:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Following a competition launched by [Chateau Haut-Brion] owner Prince Robert of Luxembourg, a medieval history researcher in Bordeaux found a written mention of Haut-Brion dated 21 January 1521.
That indicates the Graves first growth estate’s wines have been highly prized for around 500 years.
The document, found by art historian Laurent Chavier, is the sale of an annuity worth 400 Bordeaux francs, the equivalent today of around €50,000. It is drafted in French – rather than Gascon – by Maitre Hamelin Gemisson. The borrower, Jean de Monque, promises to deliver each year ‘four pipes of wine from the vineyard of Aubrion’, as part of repayment.
Until now, the earliest known mention of Haut-Brion was in the English National Archives at Kew, London. It features in King Charles II’s cellar book in 1660, the year of his Restoration to the English throne. It is also mentioned in the diary of parliamentarian Samuel Pepys, from the same era.
Read more at http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/587597/haut-brion-history-dates-back-500-years-new-research-shows#71ezkWU0VfIlcbjP.99 http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/587597/haut-brion-history-dates-back-500-years-new-research-shows
Methinks this should be mentioned and sourced here somewhere, somehow. Not knowing how best to do it, I would be glad to defer to others' editing wisdom and skill. Dadofsam ( talk) 20:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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