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Flyer22 Reborn, why did you revert this edit and warn Calculuschild (? The edit does not look like vandalism to me, nor unconstructive, although I have not verified the citations yet. I came to this from a question at the help desk. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 21:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Used as a solder in low-temperature physics.This was followed by a ref tag with the ref name "lowtemp" but that ref was not defined in the text you added. it looks to me as if you copied this text from soem other Wikipedia article, as that is a form used to handle repeated use of a citation within an article, but it does not work across articles unless the body of the citation is also copied. Please see Referencing for Beginners for more detail on that. But more importantly, what article was this copied from? It doesn't seem to have been Wood's metal. If your edit is to be restored it will be very helpful to have a source for that statement, and in any case text copied from one Wikipedia article to another must be properly attributed. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for detrails. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:03, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
I would now like to review the merits of [ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cerrolow_136&direction=next&oldid=890024097 this version of the page, as edited by Calculuschild as a possible start on a separate article.
I'm glad this discussion is happening (and I hope I'm adding to this discussion page correctly). I'd like to make a couple of points and ask for clarification:
1) As a materials science engineer, I often run into compounds with properties that are scattered about the internet without any unified source. As I collect these datapoints over time (which is not trivial without access to scientific papers/scholarly database, etc.) it seems appropriate to collect these properties into a public site, especially noting the utility of other specific pages (e.g. Gallinstan and Carbon_black, although one has a nice template and the other is just a bullet list in the middle of the page). In its current state, having Cerrolow 136 as a bullet point on another article does not really allow for a neat presentation of these datapoints.
2) I do have access to further citations for datapoints on Cerrolow 136, (as well as Field's Metal and Wood's Metal) but planned to fill those in over time as I dig them back up. Rest assured the three lines of text are not all that exist. I just need to collect them again, and having an existing page simplifies the insertion of that further data.
3) Regardless of the length of written prose, is there not any utility in having a page simply listing the material properties in a table? Even without pretty paragraphs to read it seems much more useful to the typical user than just a bullet point mentioning that the material exists.
4) The missing reference is [1]. As soon as I noticed I hadn't pasted in the full reference (a minute or so?) I went to correct it but the article had already been reverted. Calculuschild ( talk) 21:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
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Here are some references:
Thoughts? Also, it looks like we lost Calculuschild. He hasn't edited since January, never set up an email account. My guess is that as a result of his experiences here, he decided Wikipedia wasn't for him. That is such a shame. A loose necktie ( talk) 21:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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![]() | This is the
talk page of a
redirect that targets the page: • Wood's metal Because this page is not frequently watched, present and future discussions, edit requests and requested moves should take place at: • Talk:Wood's metal |
![]() | This redirect was nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion on 21 March 2019. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Flyer22 Reborn, why did you revert this edit and warn Calculuschild (? The edit does not look like vandalism to me, nor unconstructive, although I have not verified the citations yet. I came to this from a question at the help desk. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 21:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Used as a solder in low-temperature physics.This was followed by a ref tag with the ref name "lowtemp" but that ref was not defined in the text you added. it looks to me as if you copied this text from soem other Wikipedia article, as that is a form used to handle repeated use of a citation within an article, but it does not work across articles unless the body of the citation is also copied. Please see Referencing for Beginners for more detail on that. But more importantly, what article was this copied from? It doesn't seem to have been Wood's metal. If your edit is to be restored it will be very helpful to have a source for that statement, and in any case text copied from one Wikipedia article to another must be properly attributed. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for detrails. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:03, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
I would now like to review the merits of [ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cerrolow_136&direction=next&oldid=890024097 this version of the page, as edited by Calculuschild as a possible start on a separate article.
I'm glad this discussion is happening (and I hope I'm adding to this discussion page correctly). I'd like to make a couple of points and ask for clarification:
1) As a materials science engineer, I often run into compounds with properties that are scattered about the internet without any unified source. As I collect these datapoints over time (which is not trivial without access to scientific papers/scholarly database, etc.) it seems appropriate to collect these properties into a public site, especially noting the utility of other specific pages (e.g. Gallinstan and Carbon_black, although one has a nice template and the other is just a bullet list in the middle of the page). In its current state, having Cerrolow 136 as a bullet point on another article does not really allow for a neat presentation of these datapoints.
2) I do have access to further citations for datapoints on Cerrolow 136, (as well as Field's Metal and Wood's Metal) but planned to fill those in over time as I dig them back up. Rest assured the three lines of text are not all that exist. I just need to collect them again, and having an existing page simplifies the insertion of that further data.
3) Regardless of the length of written prose, is there not any utility in having a page simply listing the material properties in a table? Even without pretty paragraphs to read it seems much more useful to the typical user than just a bullet point mentioning that the material exists.
4) The missing reference is [1]. As soon as I noticed I hadn't pasted in the full reference (a minute or so?) I went to correct it but the article had already been reverted. Calculuschild ( talk) 21:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
References
Here are some references:
Thoughts? Also, it looks like we lost Calculuschild. He hasn't edited since January, never set up an email account. My guess is that as a result of his experiences here, he decided Wikipedia wasn't for him. That is such a shame. A loose necktie ( talk) 21:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
References