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Reviewer: Dougatwiki ( talk · contribs) 16:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
At first sight I am sure this will get to GA very quickly. I'll get back fairly soon with my first detailed comments. Doug ( at Wiki) 16:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
A few details as I read it:
Lead para
"raids and invasions by the Vikings and a new political situation because of a change in overlordship from one kingdom to another "
Could the "because of" change to "resulting from" ?
Archbishop
"Gervase of Canterbury says"
Shouldn't that be "Gervase said" or "Gervase wrote". Or "The Chronicle of Gervase of Canterbury says" ?
"There is no sign of his being associated with"
"of him being associated with" or "of his association with" ?
"Given the long length of his archiepiscopate"
Sounds a bit funny. Can we drop the "long"?
"first Viking attacks"
Reads a bit awkwardly. It sounds as if the first is an adjective going with the Viking attacks rather than part of the first....second construction. If they could be separated that would not happen - like "first the Viking attacks" or "first the threat of Viking attacks" or "first the frequent Viking attacks".
"Mercian king, as after this, he"
I feel it should be "Mercian king as, after this, he".
"gave control of all the free minsters"
It feels like there should be an "in England" or something here before the "to the king"
"Æthelwulf succeeded his father, the first son"
Written this way, "the first son" refers to "his father". Perhaps "Æthelwulf succeeded his father and became the first son" or how about "Æthelwulf succeeded his father as king of Wessex and became the first son to do so in almost two centuries." avoiding the repetiiton of "succeeded his father" and "follow his father"?
Later life and death
"the later at London" probably "the latter " or did you mean "the later"? I see it's possible. (But there's a "later" in the next phrase so best avoided.)
After discussing these, the "Well written" criterion can be signed off. I don't think the rest of the criteria are going to give many problems. I'll start checking them now.
Doug (
at Wiki) 17:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
More Infobox gives consecration in August - text of article gives July ?? Doug ( at Wiki) 18:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
More The date of Ceolnoth's election is given in the "old" DNB article on him. (29th June) This could be added to the infobox (and text?) with a reference. Doug ( at Wiki) 20:14, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes! I just watched all the changes happening in real time! That seems to have fixed all my reservations.
I've been through all the other criteria and can't find any issues to comment on. It follows the pattern of several of your earlier GA articles like this so you seem to have everything sorted. There's no reason for me not to give it an immediate pass so I'll go ahead and put that into effect. Good work! I reviewed it because I'm interested in the area and enjoyed concentrating on the topic. Doug ( at Wiki) 22:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Dougatwiki ( talk · contribs) 16:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
At first sight I am sure this will get to GA very quickly. I'll get back fairly soon with my first detailed comments. Doug ( at Wiki) 16:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
A few details as I read it:
Lead para
"raids and invasions by the Vikings and a new political situation because of a change in overlordship from one kingdom to another "
Could the "because of" change to "resulting from" ?
Archbishop
"Gervase of Canterbury says"
Shouldn't that be "Gervase said" or "Gervase wrote". Or "The Chronicle of Gervase of Canterbury says" ?
"There is no sign of his being associated with"
"of him being associated with" or "of his association with" ?
"Given the long length of his archiepiscopate"
Sounds a bit funny. Can we drop the "long"?
"first Viking attacks"
Reads a bit awkwardly. It sounds as if the first is an adjective going with the Viking attacks rather than part of the first....second construction. If they could be separated that would not happen - like "first the Viking attacks" or "first the threat of Viking attacks" or "first the frequent Viking attacks".
"Mercian king, as after this, he"
I feel it should be "Mercian king as, after this, he".
"gave control of all the free minsters"
It feels like there should be an "in England" or something here before the "to the king"
"Æthelwulf succeeded his father, the first son"
Written this way, "the first son" refers to "his father". Perhaps "Æthelwulf succeeded his father and became the first son" or how about "Æthelwulf succeeded his father as king of Wessex and became the first son to do so in almost two centuries." avoiding the repetiiton of "succeeded his father" and "follow his father"?
Later life and death
"the later at London" probably "the latter " or did you mean "the later"? I see it's possible. (But there's a "later" in the next phrase so best avoided.)
After discussing these, the "Well written" criterion can be signed off. I don't think the rest of the criteria are going to give many problems. I'll start checking them now.
Doug (
at Wiki) 17:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
More Infobox gives consecration in August - text of article gives July ?? Doug ( at Wiki) 18:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
More The date of Ceolnoth's election is given in the "old" DNB article on him. (29th June) This could be added to the infobox (and text?) with a reference. Doug ( at Wiki) 20:14, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes! I just watched all the changes happening in real time! That seems to have fixed all my reservations.
I've been through all the other criteria and can't find any issues to comment on. It follows the pattern of several of your earlier GA articles like this so you seem to have everything sorted. There's no reason for me not to give it an immediate pass so I'll go ahead and put that into effect. Good work! I reviewed it because I'm interested in the area and enjoyed concentrating on the topic. Doug ( at Wiki) 22:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)