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Are the units "meters per year" really the right ones? I have a hard time picturing what this means. This article cites no sources. krc 19:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding a citation. I don't have the reference material at hand, so still I ask: are these the correct units? Something like "cubic meters per year" would make more sense to me. krc 04:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumpuscat ( talk • contribs)
Hi - Yes, flow rates are in units of length per unit time. If the units were volume per time (ie cubic m per second, which is a discharge) then you would take the velocity and multiply by the cross sectional area. Since the vertical cross section of each cenote or cave is different, this is not a good way to provide a typical benchmark value for all cenotes. In contrast, the water flow rate is generally independent of how big the cenote since it is the regional pressure field driving the flow (ie water velocity in a big cave/cenote is not necessarily higher than velocity in a small cave/cenote). As for the numbers cited, they are of the correct order of magnitude, but that is all that was attempted to provide. Groundwater flow rates are generally only quoted to order of magnitude ranges (ie 10, 100, 1000, 10 000 m /day or /year depending on the system). Cheers. Ggpab ( talk) 02:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your explanation and improvements to the article. krc Rumpuscat ( talk) 04:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I found this article very helpful having just snorkeled in Cenote Azul in Yucatan. I tasted the water and found it somewhat brackish. Now I know why. Thanks. Frme2u ( talk) 22:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Editor who is asking for a citation on the maya word dzonot. First of all there is no standard orthography in Maya yet, and I am not aware of any formal Yucatec Maya dictionaries that are in print. This is a living language with hundreds of thousands native speakers, and if you go to the Yucatan peninsula they will all tell you that the Maya word for cenote is d'zonot. Second of all, if I were to write "The word table in English has the same latin root as the word "table" in French" - would you be asking for a citation? Cheers ggpb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggpab ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Excellent! Are there any rules/guidelines on the apostrophe? The FAMSI page has dzonot but I commonly see it written dzonot. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggpab ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
'
here is a redundant, mistaken one. But since it's found in use (but not in actual Yucatec Maya texts as far as I have seen), it could be mentioned also. --
cjllw ʘ
TALK
04:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Why does the Spanish IPA transcription contain the word-initial non-sibilant? That is surely not the pronunciation of this word in its "native" environment (the Yucutan) where native speakers of regional Spanish would use a related sibilant. Anyway, I'm changing the IPA to have word-initial [s], please discuss if this is unsatisfactory. Kolbe ( talk) 17:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
As it stands, this section is a wp:coat rack, and talks more about the crater than cenotes. -- OpenFuture ( talk) 20:59, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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Summary reads: "It is one of an estimated 10,000 cenotes" What is? Lol. "It" refers to nothing, this is not the page for a specific cenote and no specific cenote has been mentioned prior to this. 97.94.140.148 ( talk) 04:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
In the summary it says and estimated 10,000 and elsewhere it says at least 6,000. This isn't inconsistent but would be good to have the same number 200.68.172.33 ( talk) 11:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Are the units "meters per year" really the right ones? I have a hard time picturing what this means. This article cites no sources. krc 19:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding a citation. I don't have the reference material at hand, so still I ask: are these the correct units? Something like "cubic meters per year" would make more sense to me. krc 04:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumpuscat ( talk • contribs)
Hi - Yes, flow rates are in units of length per unit time. If the units were volume per time (ie cubic m per second, which is a discharge) then you would take the velocity and multiply by the cross sectional area. Since the vertical cross section of each cenote or cave is different, this is not a good way to provide a typical benchmark value for all cenotes. In contrast, the water flow rate is generally independent of how big the cenote since it is the regional pressure field driving the flow (ie water velocity in a big cave/cenote is not necessarily higher than velocity in a small cave/cenote). As for the numbers cited, they are of the correct order of magnitude, but that is all that was attempted to provide. Groundwater flow rates are generally only quoted to order of magnitude ranges (ie 10, 100, 1000, 10 000 m /day or /year depending on the system). Cheers. Ggpab ( talk) 02:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your explanation and improvements to the article. krc Rumpuscat ( talk) 04:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I found this article very helpful having just snorkeled in Cenote Azul in Yucatan. I tasted the water and found it somewhat brackish. Now I know why. Thanks. Frme2u ( talk) 22:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Editor who is asking for a citation on the maya word dzonot. First of all there is no standard orthography in Maya yet, and I am not aware of any formal Yucatec Maya dictionaries that are in print. This is a living language with hundreds of thousands native speakers, and if you go to the Yucatan peninsula they will all tell you that the Maya word for cenote is d'zonot. Second of all, if I were to write "The word table in English has the same latin root as the word "table" in French" - would you be asking for a citation? Cheers ggpb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggpab ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Excellent! Are there any rules/guidelines on the apostrophe? The FAMSI page has dzonot but I commonly see it written dzonot. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggpab ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
'
here is a redundant, mistaken one. But since it's found in use (but not in actual Yucatec Maya texts as far as I have seen), it could be mentioned also. --
cjllw ʘ
TALK
04:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Why does the Spanish IPA transcription contain the word-initial non-sibilant? That is surely not the pronunciation of this word in its "native" environment (the Yucutan) where native speakers of regional Spanish would use a related sibilant. Anyway, I'm changing the IPA to have word-initial [s], please discuss if this is unsatisfactory. Kolbe ( talk) 17:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
As it stands, this section is a wp:coat rack, and talks more about the crater than cenotes. -- OpenFuture ( talk) 20:59, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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Summary reads: "It is one of an estimated 10,000 cenotes" What is? Lol. "It" refers to nothing, this is not the page for a specific cenote and no specific cenote has been mentioned prior to this. 97.94.140.148 ( talk) 04:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
In the summary it says and estimated 10,000 and elsewhere it says at least 6,000. This isn't inconsistent but would be good to have the same number 200.68.172.33 ( talk) 11:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)