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If we're not sure there is going to be a second season, should we move this article to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.)? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 05:00, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I personally don't have any problem with the article being titled Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.) but the naming needs to follow Wikipedia guidelines which is why I recommend it being moved to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.). Having it titled Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.) falls into WP:CRYSTAL and implies that a second season will happen. Because this season will be occurring during the 2017–18 ratings season (typically September - May) the fate of the show most likely will be included in CBS' upfront presentations for the 2018–19 network season which will happen in May 2018. At this stage the Celebrity variant of the show wouldn't warrant enough information for its own article and the article for the British adaptation wasn't created until 2006 and at that point it had 4 seasons under its belt and there were enough differences between the celebrity version and the civilian version to warrant a separate article. So my recommendation is to move it to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.) until CBS announces a second season. Then once there is a second season this article can move back to Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.). That way if the need ever arises to split the celebrity information from the main article it can be done at that time. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 18:14, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Now that CBS has officially confirmed a second season of Celebrity Big Brother, we can put the 1 back in the title for this article. OfficerAPC ( talk) 03:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Please join the discussion below at Requested move 15 May 2018. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Since the first 6 HouseGuests were released, I decided to make the HouseGuest list, add their names in the legend, and create a basic table for the voting history. We can adjust as more information is released for new houseguests, starting dates, etc. NintendoGeek ( talk) 09:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
I opened a move request on Talk:Celebrity Big Brother if anyone wants to join in.
The result of the move request was: Moved. Consensus that per NCTV we should include "TV series" — Amakuru ( talk) 13:42, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.) →
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. TV series) – Someone recently suggested a page move on this page due to
WP:NCTV I personally OPPOSE this because of
Wikipedia:WikiProject Big Brother however I found it better to resolve this here on the articles talk page.
TheDoctorWho (
talk)
01:57, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
The article's prose currently says the show's logo features the word "celebrity", but this is not seen in the infobox image. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:27, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Another Believer: Logo updated ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 19:30, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
I think this logo should be fine. This can be changed ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 11:30, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
When the series starts we’ll see which logo is used ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 11:33, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Has now been updated ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 04:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
When the series starts the image can be changed ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 23:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Why is there a start of an edit war forming with the HouseGuests section where it keeps getting switched from a table [2] to breaking the HouseGuests out with individual headers [3]? There is no real reason to have the HouseGuests broken out of the table as it makes the article bigger than it needs to be and if anyone wants to know any specifics about a celebrity's career they can click on their name. This is something I've been meaning to bring up about all the Celebrity Big Brother (UK TV series) articles for a while but kept forgetting to but there is no reason for these sections. No other "celebrity" based reality show does this and the Celebrity Big Brother articles should follow the wider precedent used. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 03:11, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Big Brother: After Dark as been confirmed to return under the title Celebrity Big Brother: After Dark. The celebrity version has received it's own logo and its own promo video so the question is are they one show or is Celebrity Big Brother: After Dark a spin-off of Celebrity Big Brother following the format of Big Brother: After Dark or are they the same show??? Most spin-off shows usually don't change their logos and promos. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:59, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I may be wrong here, but is this series scheduled to run for 26 days and not 19, assuming the fact that the celebrities moved in the house today from sequester? Letramsihtam ( talk) 22:52, 31 January 2018
So from now until the live feeds begin later tonight do we technically know who the current HoH is or should we leave it as Shannon. Because the HouseGuests have most likely already opened their bags. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I was looking at the past seasons of Big Brother and noticed the American seasons use a variety of formats for the Summary (or Episodes) section. I was thinking we might be able to combine the formats into one universal format for the American and Canadian versions since they air the least amount of episodes per week.
I looked at a variety of other reality show articles and found that Survivor: Borneo is currently a Good Article and so I thought we could use the format for Survivor articles but with a few tweaks. I know this was once proposed back in Big Brother 16 (U.S.) but I think this could work. I made an example at my sandbox to take a look.
The key is to summarize an episode with just the important details (entries/re-entries, who's nominated, who wins a competition, punishments, evictions) and leave out what could be considered "fluff" or excessive details (alliances, fights that don't result in Big Brother/production interference, etc.) to make the section easy to read and align it more with WP:TVE and WP:TV. I tried to add a description at the top for the "Timeline" column so readers unfamiliar with Big Brother would know what the column was for and what terms like "Day 1" meant. If anyone has any suggestions on this idea to make it better please let me know. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 04:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Did Metta vote to evict Chuck or James? People are saying there was a misunderstanding, but I thought he clearly said, "I vote for Chuck." Which way does the vote count? Jayab314 ( talk) 16:25, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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Add Ariadna to the group of veto players under episode 3 2601:246:8200:3FF:3410:4E22:4052:51F9 ( talk) 22:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Does note 4 on the table seem necessary? It doesn't really seem to help explain anything on the table??? TheDoctorWho (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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Keshia was evicted on Day 14 2A02:C7D:8AA4:5600:1155:6B85:C256:76D8 ( talk) 15:54, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie said that the first three HouseGuests to drop would be on a slop only diet. Normally we make a section just for Have Nots however it could just be this one week and she didn't use the term Have Nots so how should we go about this??? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:04, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an ongoing issue here since the article has been created about whether or not to mention BBOTT in the lead. The sentence that's been here consistently and keeps getting reverted to reads: and is the second U.S. Big Brother season to air outside the usual summer television season, the first being Big Brother 9 in 2008. the version that I just reverted from reads: and is the third U.S. Big Brother season to air outside the usual summer television season, the others being Big Brother 9 in 2008 and the CBS All Access exclusive Big Brother: Over The Top in 2017. but other versions have existed such as: and is the second U.S. Big Brother season (not counting its 2016 CBS All Access spin-off) to air outside the usual summer television season, the first being Big Brother 9 in 2008. My view on this is that BBOTT should NOT be mentioned because it was not broadcast on television but I figure it should be discussed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:02, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Alright thanks, just making sure most of us were on the same page. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie announced that there would be a double eviction on Friday, leaving five people left during Sunday's finale. Exactly how will the finale play out amongst the remaining HouseGuests if there is five left? Letramsihtam ( talk) 02:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Have a winner or runner-up also ever won America's Favorite HouseGuest? If not is this info worth including? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Ari and Mark were evicted at the same time so there appears to be an edit war over the order to list them in. The two options are either listing them alphabetically (Ariadna (first) and then Mark (second)) or as the juror number Julie announced them as: Ariadna as #8 and Mark as #9 (making Mark (first) and then Ariadna (second)). Thoughts? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie Chen confirmed the order on " The Talk" today as she brought them out in the order they finished. it was Marissa, Ross, Ari, and then Mark Wanheda ( talk) 21:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok but I thought that chart was for the order they were evicted in.. not their jury numbers.. because technically Marissa evicted mark first regardless of what numbers they were Wanheda ( talk) 22:34, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Did we ever reach a consensus on this first-time situation? OfficerAPC ( talk) 02:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
They tied for third. They are both third place. They should be listed in alphabetical order. @ TheDoctorWho: @ OfficerAPC: @ Wanheda: @ Spanneraol: ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 19:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Per the template documentation located at Template:Big Brother endgame the housemate part reads:
hmxx: This is where a housemate's name should be written. Names are not automatically linked to anything, so these need to be created manually.
and I realized that going all the way back to BB1 that none of the templates have been linked. Is this something we should do? I'm willing to go back and link them all but I figure it's better to discuss first. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I started a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Big Brother about aligning all the various versions and seasons of Big Brother (franchise) with the guidelines of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television). I created a table showing all the different various naming conventions currently in use and recommended article names based on my understanding of WP:NCTV. I'm posting this notice to all applicable areas for a broad discussion. Thank You! ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 20:24, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
If we're not sure there is going to be a second season, should we move this article to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.)? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 05:00, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I personally don't have any problem with the article being titled Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.) but the naming needs to follow Wikipedia guidelines which is why I recommend it being moved to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.). Having it titled Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.) falls into WP:CRYSTAL and implies that a second season will happen. Because this season will be occurring during the 2017–18 ratings season (typically September - May) the fate of the show most likely will be included in CBS' upfront presentations for the 2018–19 network season which will happen in May 2018. At this stage the Celebrity variant of the show wouldn't warrant enough information for its own article and the article for the British adaptation wasn't created until 2006 and at that point it had 4 seasons under its belt and there were enough differences between the celebrity version and the civilian version to warrant a separate article. So my recommendation is to move it to Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.) until CBS announces a second season. Then once there is a second season this article can move back to Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.). That way if the need ever arises to split the celebrity information from the main article it can be done at that time. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 18:14, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Now that CBS has officially confirmed a second season of Celebrity Big Brother, we can put the 1 back in the title for this article. OfficerAPC ( talk) 03:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Please join the discussion below at Requested move 15 May 2018. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Since the first 6 HouseGuests were released, I decided to make the HouseGuest list, add their names in the legend, and create a basic table for the voting history. We can adjust as more information is released for new houseguests, starting dates, etc. NintendoGeek ( talk) 09:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
I opened a move request on Talk:Celebrity Big Brother if anyone wants to join in.
The result of the move request was: Moved. Consensus that per NCTV we should include "TV series" — Amakuru ( talk) 13:42, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.) →
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. TV series) – Someone recently suggested a page move on this page due to
WP:NCTV I personally OPPOSE this because of
Wikipedia:WikiProject Big Brother however I found it better to resolve this here on the articles talk page.
TheDoctorWho (
talk)
01:57, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
The article's prose currently says the show's logo features the word "celebrity", but this is not seen in the infobox image. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:27, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Another Believer: Logo updated ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 19:30, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
I think this logo should be fine. This can be changed ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 11:30, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
When the series starts we’ll see which logo is used ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 11:33, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Has now been updated ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 04:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
When the series starts the image can be changed ChristmasCrackers ( talk) 23:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Why is there a start of an edit war forming with the HouseGuests section where it keeps getting switched from a table [2] to breaking the HouseGuests out with individual headers [3]? There is no real reason to have the HouseGuests broken out of the table as it makes the article bigger than it needs to be and if anyone wants to know any specifics about a celebrity's career they can click on their name. This is something I've been meaning to bring up about all the Celebrity Big Brother (UK TV series) articles for a while but kept forgetting to but there is no reason for these sections. No other "celebrity" based reality show does this and the Celebrity Big Brother articles should follow the wider precedent used. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 03:11, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Big Brother: After Dark as been confirmed to return under the title Celebrity Big Brother: After Dark. The celebrity version has received it's own logo and its own promo video so the question is are they one show or is Celebrity Big Brother: After Dark a spin-off of Celebrity Big Brother following the format of Big Brother: After Dark or are they the same show??? Most spin-off shows usually don't change their logos and promos. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:59, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I may be wrong here, but is this series scheduled to run for 26 days and not 19, assuming the fact that the celebrities moved in the house today from sequester? Letramsihtam ( talk) 22:52, 31 January 2018
So from now until the live feeds begin later tonight do we technically know who the current HoH is or should we leave it as Shannon. Because the HouseGuests have most likely already opened their bags. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I was looking at the past seasons of Big Brother and noticed the American seasons use a variety of formats for the Summary (or Episodes) section. I was thinking we might be able to combine the formats into one universal format for the American and Canadian versions since they air the least amount of episodes per week.
I looked at a variety of other reality show articles and found that Survivor: Borneo is currently a Good Article and so I thought we could use the format for Survivor articles but with a few tweaks. I know this was once proposed back in Big Brother 16 (U.S.) but I think this could work. I made an example at my sandbox to take a look.
The key is to summarize an episode with just the important details (entries/re-entries, who's nominated, who wins a competition, punishments, evictions) and leave out what could be considered "fluff" or excessive details (alliances, fights that don't result in Big Brother/production interference, etc.) to make the section easy to read and align it more with WP:TVE and WP:TV. I tried to add a description at the top for the "Timeline" column so readers unfamiliar with Big Brother would know what the column was for and what terms like "Day 1" meant. If anyone has any suggestions on this idea to make it better please let me know. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 04:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Did Metta vote to evict Chuck or James? People are saying there was a misunderstanding, but I thought he clearly said, "I vote for Chuck." Which way does the vote count? Jayab314 ( talk) 16:25, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. TV series) has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Add Ariadna to the group of veto players under episode 3 2601:246:8200:3FF:3410:4E22:4052:51F9 ( talk) 22:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Does note 4 on the table seem necessary? It doesn't really seem to help explain anything on the table??? TheDoctorWho (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. TV series) has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Keshia was evicted on Day 14 2A02:C7D:8AA4:5600:1155:6B85:C256:76D8 ( talk) 15:54, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie said that the first three HouseGuests to drop would be on a slop only diet. Normally we make a section just for Have Nots however it could just be this one week and she didn't use the term Have Nots so how should we go about this??? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:04, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an ongoing issue here since the article has been created about whether or not to mention BBOTT in the lead. The sentence that's been here consistently and keeps getting reverted to reads: and is the second U.S. Big Brother season to air outside the usual summer television season, the first being Big Brother 9 in 2008. the version that I just reverted from reads: and is the third U.S. Big Brother season to air outside the usual summer television season, the others being Big Brother 9 in 2008 and the CBS All Access exclusive Big Brother: Over The Top in 2017. but other versions have existed such as: and is the second U.S. Big Brother season (not counting its 2016 CBS All Access spin-off) to air outside the usual summer television season, the first being Big Brother 9 in 2008. My view on this is that BBOTT should NOT be mentioned because it was not broadcast on television but I figure it should be discussed. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:02, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Alright thanks, just making sure most of us were on the same page. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie announced that there would be a double eviction on Friday, leaving five people left during Sunday's finale. Exactly how will the finale play out amongst the remaining HouseGuests if there is five left? Letramsihtam ( talk) 02:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Have a winner or runner-up also ever won America's Favorite HouseGuest? If not is this info worth including? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Ari and Mark were evicted at the same time so there appears to be an edit war over the order to list them in. The two options are either listing them alphabetically (Ariadna (first) and then Mark (second)) or as the juror number Julie announced them as: Ariadna as #8 and Mark as #9 (making Mark (first) and then Ariadna (second)). Thoughts? TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Julie Chen confirmed the order on " The Talk" today as she brought them out in the order they finished. it was Marissa, Ross, Ari, and then Mark Wanheda ( talk) 21:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok but I thought that chart was for the order they were evicted in.. not their jury numbers.. because technically Marissa evicted mark first regardless of what numbers they were Wanheda ( talk) 22:34, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Did we ever reach a consensus on this first-time situation? OfficerAPC ( talk) 02:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
They tied for third. They are both third place. They should be listed in alphabetical order. @ TheDoctorWho: @ OfficerAPC: @ Wanheda: @ Spanneraol: ~ Totaldramaman ( talk · contribs) 19:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Per the template documentation located at Template:Big Brother endgame the housemate part reads:
hmxx: This is where a housemate's name should be written. Names are not automatically linked to anything, so these need to be created manually.
and I realized that going all the way back to BB1 that none of the templates have been linked. Is this something we should do? I'm willing to go back and link them all but I figure it's better to discuss first. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I started a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Big Brother about aligning all the various versions and seasons of Big Brother (franchise) with the guidelines of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television). I created a table showing all the different various naming conventions currently in use and recommended article names based on my understanding of WP:NCTV. I'm posting this notice to all applicable areas for a broad discussion. Thank You! ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 20:24, 10 March 2018 (UTC)