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I see WikiPedia are working overtime, deleting all the negative comments that have been posted here, regarding their theft of copyrighted works. Well of course you can behave like this and try to disguise the public feeling for your despicable actions on your own site, but there are many other websites, TV news programs, media etc, upon which we can display our disgust, without you being able to whitewash over it. People power is a significant force and I am quite certain that a great many of us will not be making any donations until your deplorable decision is reversed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.215.173.191 ( talk) 20:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
"Crested black macaque" seems to be the more widely used name. Should we change the name of the article? Tim Long 00:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Against conservation status as well as content Satu Suro 08:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I have posted a long comment in the Talk section of the main Macaque genus article, about the renaming of all the macaque species articles to "[Name] Macaque" (e.g. "Barbary Macaque") from their traditionally names (e.g. Barbary Ape).
Would you please take a look at that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macaque#Killer_Dolphins
And then correct this individual species article as necessary — I'm not sure which macaque species may have actually been called "[Name] Macaque" traditionally.
(And I hope you can see that the fact that I don't know that, after reading a Wikipedia article about the species, is why rewriting reality in Wikipedia is a problem.)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.30.135 ( talk) 12:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Give the guy his photo back! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.70.189.38 ( talk) 13:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Without going into the rights and wrongs of the current dispute, this article is supposed to be about the macaque. Surely this is not the place to have a section on copyright issues? See relevant policy WP:NOT#JOURNALISM Periglio ( talk) 14:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
I've seen a few people in favor of moving it to (the former) monkey painting, but not one reason why. As I'm sure everyone here knows, that's not how it works, which is why I took the time to give my reasoning against it. I'm moving on to somewhere where there is a respect for established process, so (continue to) do whatever you want. Mandruss | talk 09:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
The Celebes crested macaque is frugivorous, with 70% of its diet consisting of fruits. It also consumes leaves, buds, seeds, fungus, birds and bird eggs, insects (such as caterpillars), and the occasional small lizard or frog.
where is the reference??
from http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/12556/0
This species is found in rainforests at moderate elevations. It is frugivorous, but will also eat immature leaves, arthropods, stalks of newly flowering plants, and cultivated crops (fruits, vegetables, and maize). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laconvenzione ( talk • contribs) 08:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Looks like the references for this article got messed up with all the recent edits. Saffron Blaze ( talk) 05:31, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
We're disgreeing about the inclusion of the monkey selfie. Does it relevant due to its recent notability or is it merely a form image coatracking? It's a certaionly relevant to a unique form of copyright case (and animal-made art, but the connection to this species is rather incidental. It could have almost any other primate, or even an elephant. It's a certainly a form of human interaction, but a one-of-a-kind example. My view is that it's not really relevant to the species, and especially without any sort of contextualizing content (ie not illustrative). As an image of the animal itself, it's not useful since it's focused on just the face and as far as I can tell doesn't display any typical behavior. There have to be hundreds of indivudal cases of animal photos that are extremely popular online, but that doesn't mean they should be in the articles about the individual species.
So does it belong here or not?
Peter Isotalo 10:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Why is the selfie back in this article after it was removed for being less than scientific? It's a wide angle shot up close and features are distorted and the expression is unusual. Saffron Blaze ( talk) 21:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Elmidae: The macaca nigra is listed under "threatened" and sub-categorised as "critically endangered". It is humans that they face an anthropogenic existential threat. Writing so therefore isn't "non-neutral", please discuss before editing. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
I've been changing the lead images of many articles about animals. I'm sure I want to change the lead image of this article if you don't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esagurton ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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I see WikiPedia are working overtime, deleting all the negative comments that have been posted here, regarding their theft of copyrighted works. Well of course you can behave like this and try to disguise the public feeling for your despicable actions on your own site, but there are many other websites, TV news programs, media etc, upon which we can display our disgust, without you being able to whitewash over it. People power is a significant force and I am quite certain that a great many of us will not be making any donations until your deplorable decision is reversed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.215.173.191 ( talk) 20:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
"Crested black macaque" seems to be the more widely used name. Should we change the name of the article? Tim Long 00:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Against conservation status as well as content Satu Suro 08:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I have posted a long comment in the Talk section of the main Macaque genus article, about the renaming of all the macaque species articles to "[Name] Macaque" (e.g. "Barbary Macaque") from their traditionally names (e.g. Barbary Ape).
Would you please take a look at that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macaque#Killer_Dolphins
And then correct this individual species article as necessary — I'm not sure which macaque species may have actually been called "[Name] Macaque" traditionally.
(And I hope you can see that the fact that I don't know that, after reading a Wikipedia article about the species, is why rewriting reality in Wikipedia is a problem.)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.30.135 ( talk) 12:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Give the guy his photo back! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.70.189.38 ( talk) 13:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Without going into the rights and wrongs of the current dispute, this article is supposed to be about the macaque. Surely this is not the place to have a section on copyright issues? See relevant policy WP:NOT#JOURNALISM Periglio ( talk) 14:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
I've seen a few people in favor of moving it to (the former) monkey painting, but not one reason why. As I'm sure everyone here knows, that's not how it works, which is why I took the time to give my reasoning against it. I'm moving on to somewhere where there is a respect for established process, so (continue to) do whatever you want. Mandruss | talk 09:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
The Celebes crested macaque is frugivorous, with 70% of its diet consisting of fruits. It also consumes leaves, buds, seeds, fungus, birds and bird eggs, insects (such as caterpillars), and the occasional small lizard or frog.
where is the reference??
from http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/12556/0
This species is found in rainforests at moderate elevations. It is frugivorous, but will also eat immature leaves, arthropods, stalks of newly flowering plants, and cultivated crops (fruits, vegetables, and maize). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laconvenzione ( talk • contribs) 08:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Looks like the references for this article got messed up with all the recent edits. Saffron Blaze ( talk) 05:31, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
We're disgreeing about the inclusion of the monkey selfie. Does it relevant due to its recent notability or is it merely a form image coatracking? It's a certaionly relevant to a unique form of copyright case (and animal-made art, but the connection to this species is rather incidental. It could have almost any other primate, or even an elephant. It's a certainly a form of human interaction, but a one-of-a-kind example. My view is that it's not really relevant to the species, and especially without any sort of contextualizing content (ie not illustrative). As an image of the animal itself, it's not useful since it's focused on just the face and as far as I can tell doesn't display any typical behavior. There have to be hundreds of indivudal cases of animal photos that are extremely popular online, but that doesn't mean they should be in the articles about the individual species.
So does it belong here or not?
Peter Isotalo 10:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Why is the selfie back in this article after it was removed for being less than scientific? It's a wide angle shot up close and features are distorted and the expression is unusual. Saffron Blaze ( talk) 21:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Elmidae: The macaca nigra is listed under "threatened" and sub-categorised as "critically endangered". It is humans that they face an anthropogenic existential threat. Writing so therefore isn't "non-neutral", please discuss before editing. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
I've been changing the lead images of many articles about animals. I'm sure I want to change the lead image of this article if you don't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esagurton ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 November 2017 (UTC)