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Is this the flag of the Caucasus Emirate? http://generalvekalat.org/images/mail.jpg From: http://generalvekalat.org/
If this is their flag then we should update some of the combatant flags.
[ [1]] Abdul Halim also had this flag. Was it used for the Caucasian front? If so this flag should have been used instead of the Jihad flag for the caucasian front - PietervHuis 02:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Russia.htm This site also has the flag in question listed as the one for the caucasus emirate. If it becomes official, we should give umarov this flag. - PietervHuis ( talk) 03:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to give Umarov that flag anyway. The CHRI flag doesnt fit him anymore, and the Jihad flag is too broad. http://generalvekalat.org/ is said to be the official site of the emirate and it uses the flag.
They made a hq version recently, http://imgs2.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2008/02/01/55960_1.jpg We can used it till anything else is known. - PietervHuis ( talk) 00:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
That would be cool, it would be best to try and mirror the flag that was always behind Sadulayev. I normally can do it myself too I think, but my computer is broken and I don't have the proper software atm. - PietervHuis ( talk) 12:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the flag.
I don't think your image map is accurate though. Stavropol Krai shouldn't be included, and Adygea should. That's what I remember. I think it should be these states: [5] - PietervHuis ( talk) 21:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, it doesn't seem the Cherkess area of Karachay-Cherkessia is part of it either [8]. I don't think there are official boundiries but it would be best to limit that republic to the Karachay's following the same ethnic composition map [9]. I'll see if I can do it myself. - PietervHuis ( talk) 19:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It also seems the "Nogay Steppe" is simply a plain in Dagestan [10] - PietervHuis ( talk) 19:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess it's just a black-and-white flag with the sword and Arabic letters. -- RamboKadyrov ( talk) 16:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
where did this idea come from, how do you go from republic to emirate? No seriously this makes no sence, but neither did the original as well-- Jakezing ( talk) 03:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is more powerful, the Caucasus Republic or the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria? The Emirate has much more ambitious territorial claims, but are they a paper government with most Chechen rebels siding with the ChRI, have they superseded the ChRI almost entirely, or are they somewhere in between? I'm trying to get a sense of which one's thoughts on Georgia are more important -- I get the impression that it's the Emirate, given that they and not the ChRI are offering to send troops to Georgia on the NATO side. ExOttoyuhr ( talk) 15:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
A caucasian emirate already existed during the Russian civil war, its leader was uzun haji, and it was recognized by Georgia and Azerbaijan. Umarov's efforts seem merely an attempt to revive this emirate. This emirate needs an article, but I'm not sure if there should be two seperate articles, or simply one, which speaks of the attempt at revival. Grey Fox-9589 ( talk) 19:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
This article talks about the emirate as declared by Umarov, but what is its area of control (if any) within the claimed territory? -- Illythr ( talk) 22:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
The Arabic words in the infobox do not display properly in Firefox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.5.34 ( talk) 09:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
According to the statement [11] there are no exact borders of Caucasus Emirate, even as proclaimed borders, because "I don’t think that it is necessary to draw the borders of the Caucasus Emirate." according to the statement of Dokka Umarov. Also he said that "Secondly, after expelling the kuffar we must reconquer all historical lands of Muslims, and these borders are beyond the boundaries of Caucasus." That is why we should not draw the borders of Emirate as the borders of the country, we should not use the country infobox, because there are no such borders even as proclaimed borders, we should not create the borders of this "state" instead of its founders.-- Yuriy Kolodin ( talk) 00:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
What is this BS as title for the emirate map: "Territory of Jihad against infidels announced by Dokka Umarov"? If there are any infidels on this earth it is them who do not believe in Christ the Savior. Somebody disagrees - let's carry it out on the battle field, not in Wikipedia. This title must be replaced by something neutral. Hoppelpoppel ( talk) 18:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Does it even mention the split that occured? No. That's pretty important, because the Gakayev/Vadalov faction actually rejected the concept of a pan-Caucasian state and various other policies of the Emirate. -- Yalens ( talk) 15:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC) (PS to clarify, yes I know it talked about Umarov's abortive stepping down declaration; but I am talking about the aftermath)
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I noticed that in the right-hand side infobox Georgia is listed under allies as well as opponents. If this isn't a mistake there should be at least some form of clarification. -- Dutchy45 ( talk) 18:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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I fixed a few things. In particular, the successor state of Chechen Republic of Ichkeria is simply modern-day Chechnya, not the Caucasus Emirate. My very best wishes ( talk) 16:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Is this the flag of the Caucasus Emirate? http://generalvekalat.org/images/mail.jpg From: http://generalvekalat.org/
If this is their flag then we should update some of the combatant flags.
[ [1]] Abdul Halim also had this flag. Was it used for the Caucasian front? If so this flag should have been used instead of the Jihad flag for the caucasian front - PietervHuis 02:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Russia.htm This site also has the flag in question listed as the one for the caucasus emirate. If it becomes official, we should give umarov this flag. - PietervHuis ( talk) 03:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to give Umarov that flag anyway. The CHRI flag doesnt fit him anymore, and the Jihad flag is too broad. http://generalvekalat.org/ is said to be the official site of the emirate and it uses the flag.
They made a hq version recently, http://imgs2.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2008/02/01/55960_1.jpg We can used it till anything else is known. - PietervHuis ( talk) 00:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
That would be cool, it would be best to try and mirror the flag that was always behind Sadulayev. I normally can do it myself too I think, but my computer is broken and I don't have the proper software atm. - PietervHuis ( talk) 12:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the flag.
I don't think your image map is accurate though. Stavropol Krai shouldn't be included, and Adygea should. That's what I remember. I think it should be these states: [5] - PietervHuis ( talk) 21:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, it doesn't seem the Cherkess area of Karachay-Cherkessia is part of it either [8]. I don't think there are official boundiries but it would be best to limit that republic to the Karachay's following the same ethnic composition map [9]. I'll see if I can do it myself. - PietervHuis ( talk) 19:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It also seems the "Nogay Steppe" is simply a plain in Dagestan [10] - PietervHuis ( talk) 19:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess it's just a black-and-white flag with the sword and Arabic letters. -- RamboKadyrov ( talk) 16:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
where did this idea come from, how do you go from republic to emirate? No seriously this makes no sence, but neither did the original as well-- Jakezing ( talk) 03:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is more powerful, the Caucasus Republic or the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria? The Emirate has much more ambitious territorial claims, but are they a paper government with most Chechen rebels siding with the ChRI, have they superseded the ChRI almost entirely, or are they somewhere in between? I'm trying to get a sense of which one's thoughts on Georgia are more important -- I get the impression that it's the Emirate, given that they and not the ChRI are offering to send troops to Georgia on the NATO side. ExOttoyuhr ( talk) 15:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
A caucasian emirate already existed during the Russian civil war, its leader was uzun haji, and it was recognized by Georgia and Azerbaijan. Umarov's efforts seem merely an attempt to revive this emirate. This emirate needs an article, but I'm not sure if there should be two seperate articles, or simply one, which speaks of the attempt at revival. Grey Fox-9589 ( talk) 19:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
This article talks about the emirate as declared by Umarov, but what is its area of control (if any) within the claimed territory? -- Illythr ( talk) 22:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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According to the statement [11] there are no exact borders of Caucasus Emirate, even as proclaimed borders, because "I don’t think that it is necessary to draw the borders of the Caucasus Emirate." according to the statement of Dokka Umarov. Also he said that "Secondly, after expelling the kuffar we must reconquer all historical lands of Muslims, and these borders are beyond the boundaries of Caucasus." That is why we should not draw the borders of Emirate as the borders of the country, we should not use the country infobox, because there are no such borders even as proclaimed borders, we should not create the borders of this "state" instead of its founders.-- Yuriy Kolodin ( talk) 00:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
What is this BS as title for the emirate map: "Territory of Jihad against infidels announced by Dokka Umarov"? If there are any infidels on this earth it is them who do not believe in Christ the Savior. Somebody disagrees - let's carry it out on the battle field, not in Wikipedia. This title must be replaced by something neutral. Hoppelpoppel ( talk) 18:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Does it even mention the split that occured? No. That's pretty important, because the Gakayev/Vadalov faction actually rejected the concept of a pan-Caucasian state and various other policies of the Emirate. -- Yalens ( talk) 15:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC) (PS to clarify, yes I know it talked about Umarov's abortive stepping down declaration; but I am talking about the aftermath)
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Currently, the infobox contains '|next= Wilayat Qawqaz (Only Defectors)' which is used to denote 'if the faction transformed into another one, the name of that faction' per Template:Infobox_war_faction. While the qualifier '(Only Defectors)' is used, the inclusion of the field is still inappropriate so long as the Caucasus Emirate continues to be active and the majority of its members remain with the group. Furthermore, the field is not used on the pages of other groups that have similarly had defections in the recent past such as Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar, al-Nusra Front and Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. The recent defections are noted in a separate section within the body of the article. -- Credema ( talk) 07:39, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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I noticed that in the right-hand side infobox Georgia is listed under allies as well as opponents. If this isn't a mistake there should be at least some form of clarification. -- Dutchy45 ( talk) 18:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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I fixed a few things. In particular, the successor state of Chechen Republic of Ichkeria is simply modern-day Chechnya, not the Caucasus Emirate. My very best wishes ( talk) 16:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
So this country is mentioned as a belligerent in the Russian Civil War which occurred between 1917-1923 officially. (It seems to have a smilie face for a flag.) The article here makes no mention of time-travel, and the dates are fairly recent. So that leaves room for a typo or more likely some sort of nationalist spam, or maybe something else. Any ideas? Know Einstein ( talk) 10:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)