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Fellow Editors, I have removed the following sentence: "Considering the number of characters and the nature of other writing systems in the area, it is not unreasonable to postulate that the script, when deciphered, will turn out to be syllabic in nature. " We cannot engage in this sort of speculation. If this is the opinion of a noted researcher, let's cite the reference. If it's your opinion, it does not belong in the article. Thanks, Madman 04:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I started a separate page called cascajal slab and then noticed this one! Should Cascajal Slab (the artifact) have its own page separate from this, or should it simply redirect here ? -- Salsa man 18:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The info about recarving comes from the New Scientist article, amongst others: They also may have reused the Cascajal slab itself, Houston says, suggesting the inscribed side had been ground down to remove an earlier inscription.-- Salsa man 21:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
To be consistent with our other articles on Mesomerican scripts/writing (eg Maya script, Isthmian script), I'd like to propose this be renamed to something like Olmec script. Possibly this might be presumptious that these signs do form some kind of writing, but (to me at least) "hieroglyph" has that kind of connotation too. Thoughts, objections?-- cjllw | TALK 08:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
BTW - a recent posting to the AZTLAN list (by Lloyd Anderson) has put forward an interesting and quite plausible-looking proposal as to the text structure and reading-order of the Cascajal block text. In a nutshell, instead of the text being purely linear, he sees instead an arrangement of shorter lines into three columns, with some of the lines in each column to be read boustrophedon-style (once you look at it in this way, the columnar arrangement does rather leap out at you.) Unfortunately the web archiving of AZTLAN postings seems not to be working since it moved to the FAMSI site so this analysis is not available there yet (I could send the email to anyone interested). He mentions that he may well work this up into a publication someplace in the near future.-- cjllw | TALK 08:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Olmec hieroglyphs → Cascajal Block — The terms "Olmec hieroglyphs" and "Olmec script" are not particularly widespread outside of Wikipedia. The writing is usually just referred to indirectly, as "the text on the Cascajal Block" or the like. — Ptcamn ( talk) 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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The article currently reads:
"Archaeologist Christopher Pool of the University of Kentucky in Lexington has known about the tablet for a couple years."
The phrase "a couple years" is perhaps incorrect today, and will certainly be incorrect within a year or two. This should be re-written to resolve the time ambiguity, e.g. "has known about the tablet since [year]".
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This seems like an important ancient artefact. Seems odd not to include a photograph of the block itself with the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.73.236 ( talk) 11:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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Fellow Editors, I have removed the following sentence: "Considering the number of characters and the nature of other writing systems in the area, it is not unreasonable to postulate that the script, when deciphered, will turn out to be syllabic in nature. " We cannot engage in this sort of speculation. If this is the opinion of a noted researcher, let's cite the reference. If it's your opinion, it does not belong in the article. Thanks, Madman 04:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I started a separate page called cascajal slab and then noticed this one! Should Cascajal Slab (the artifact) have its own page separate from this, or should it simply redirect here ? -- Salsa man 18:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The info about recarving comes from the New Scientist article, amongst others: They also may have reused the Cascajal slab itself, Houston says, suggesting the inscribed side had been ground down to remove an earlier inscription.-- Salsa man 21:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
To be consistent with our other articles on Mesomerican scripts/writing (eg Maya script, Isthmian script), I'd like to propose this be renamed to something like Olmec script. Possibly this might be presumptious that these signs do form some kind of writing, but (to me at least) "hieroglyph" has that kind of connotation too. Thoughts, objections?-- cjllw | TALK 08:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
BTW - a recent posting to the AZTLAN list (by Lloyd Anderson) has put forward an interesting and quite plausible-looking proposal as to the text structure and reading-order of the Cascajal block text. In a nutshell, instead of the text being purely linear, he sees instead an arrangement of shorter lines into three columns, with some of the lines in each column to be read boustrophedon-style (once you look at it in this way, the columnar arrangement does rather leap out at you.) Unfortunately the web archiving of AZTLAN postings seems not to be working since it moved to the FAMSI site so this analysis is not available there yet (I could send the email to anyone interested). He mentions that he may well work this up into a publication someplace in the near future.-- cjllw | TALK 08:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Olmec hieroglyphs → Cascajal Block — The terms "Olmec hieroglyphs" and "Olmec script" are not particularly widespread outside of Wikipedia. The writing is usually just referred to indirectly, as "the text on the Cascajal Block" or the like. — Ptcamn ( talk) 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions."@ Chiarcos: this proposal is 12 years old and dead. It's best never to respond to anything other than very recent posts. Doug Weller talk 11:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
The article currently reads:
"Archaeologist Christopher Pool of the University of Kentucky in Lexington has known about the tablet for a couple years."
The phrase "a couple years" is perhaps incorrect today, and will certainly be incorrect within a year or two. This should be re-written to resolve the time ambiguity, e.g. "has known about the tablet since [year]".
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This seems like an important ancient artefact. Seems odd not to include a photograph of the block itself with the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.73.236 ( talk) 11:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)