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Edited Link for Mt. Washington as it took one to a page on Mount Washington in New Hampshire. This new external link will take one to Mt. Washington in Oregon, in the Cascade Mountain Range. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.145.40.43 ( talk) 07:48, 19 January 2003 (UTC)
This article could benefit from a separation of the Geography and Geology of the Cascades, and an expansion of their geology. As is, this article gives heavy emphasis to the volcanoes (perhaps justified, as they are generally the highest); however, most of the range north of Mt. Rainier is non-volcanic or ancient volcanic (i.e. unrelated to active volcanoes) in origin. Also, a mention of the glacial history of the range would be appropriate. BlueCanoe 00:29, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
I reset changes to the text that clarify the status of Mount Garibaldi as part of the Coast Mountains and NOT the Cascade Range; it is a Cascade Volcano but the Coast Mountains are NOT (repeat NOT) part of the Cascade Range, which ends at the Fraser River. I made similar changes to the Cascade Range entry previously, including some description of the Canadian portion of the range, but someone thought I was "vandalizing" the entry (by correcting its mis-statements, apparently) and reverted back, losing much of my Canadian stuff and the clarification of Mt Garibaldi's range grouping (repeat after me, Garibaldi Ranges of the Pacific Ranges of the Coast Mountains, and NO the Coast Mountains are NOT the northward extension of the Cascade Range, no more than 54-40 is the northern border of the State of Washington . . . ) Skookum1 02:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I feel that the North Cascades deserve a separate article (" North Cascades" currently redirects here). They are quite different from the volcanoes, and quite important, at least to the climbing community. Any objections to my starting one? Should it instead be a section of this article? Comments? -- Spireguy 04:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Created this morning by seat-of-pants while doing other BC Mountain ranges; realize now it's a non sequitur as there's nowhere to put it, really, on the main article, as there's no separate section for the Canadian Cascades, which are really part of the North Cascades (as far as the Coquihalla/Sumallo Rivers anyway). Wondering what to do here - make a separate Canadian Cascades section, or source a larger map showing the US side of the range as well? The terrain map is based on USGS data and is in Wikimedia commons as BC-relief.png; if there's a similar map, at the same scale for Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, maybe we could integrate them; will need to do the same for the Boundary Ranges with an Alaska map, too; also the St. Elias Mtns. Skookum1 16:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I would say that the images are getting a bit much here. There are too many in the first section, and some of the other pictures don't relate well to the text they are with. Anyone want to fix that, or should I take a stab? -- Spireguy 04:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to add some details on the Canadian-side geography, but in scanning the page it occurred to me the range is somewhat rich in legends: the two that come to mind are the old "marriage" between Mts Baker and Rainier (Baker hitched up her skirts and moved northward....maybe suggesting memory of a Glacier Peak eruption followed by a Mt Baker one?) and the various legends/mythologies associated with Tahoma (Mt Rainier). And, most obvious of all although I'm sure it's covered on its own page, Mount Shasta. The main mountain legends should all maybe have brief précis on this page, I think. Skookum1 21:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd be interested in the source of the very interesting information that the Medicine Lake volcano is the largest by volume in the Cascade Range. These are really big mountains, and Medicine Lake certainly does not present the visual image of a large volcano - is the volume that's being measured underground? Source please! NorCalHistory 01:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought it was fairly common knowledge. Here's a link to the USGS CVO website which lists several references: http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MedicineLake/description_medicine_lake.html . Medicine Lake and Newberry may be topographically dwarfed by Shasta and Rainier, but most of a volcano's volume is near the base and Medicine Lake has a very large base. FuQuaoar 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this:
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination, the Othello Tunnels, a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator).
When the parenthetical remark is a full sentence, which this is, it should be treated as such, viz:
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination, the Othello Tunnels, a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (Waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator.)
This is standard style stuff, although I didn't find it specifically addressed in a quick search of WP:MOS. I didn't want to revert again, since that can be rude. But it really should be in the latter form above. (I wikilinked the Shakespeare parts, since the remark calls attention to that. Maybe a good idea, maybe not.) Comments? I can find a reference if this is controversial. -- Spireguy 20:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Othello Tunnels, not Othello Tunnels. The Othello Tunnels should have their own link and article; Othello if linked separately here should be Othello, British Columbia - theoretically, but it was only a whistlestop; there may be a TransCanada Trail]] article/section on the Tunnels, but they' re a unit and go by that name; there's no point in referring to the Shakespeare character/play as it would be linked in any Othello Tunnel article; I think I didn't link it before, if it was me who put it in, as there was no article yet. The Shakespeare ref should go to the Bard here (the section head's daughter was an actress or literary student) but be advised that some other Shakespeare-placenames in BC may be named for Noah Shakespeare, a one-time Victoria civic politician and member of the legislature (or Member of Parliament). Skookum1 21:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Now that we've cleared that up, I think there are too many commas in the thing, and for clarity it should probably read like this (though I am rather overfond of dashes). :)
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination—the Othello Tunnels—a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (Waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator.)
Katr67 06:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I rewrote the first paragraph to be more readable and also more balanced between the High Cascade volcanoes and the rest of the range. Most of the range is not volcanic, and the volcanoes are not the only famous/notable parts. I think it's better now. Comments? -- Spireguy 20:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
The recent edits by Skookum1 make clear that we need to establish the relationship between the Cascade Volcanoes (i.e. the Cascade Volcanic Belt) and the Cascade Range. Should the volcanoes north of the Fraser be included in this article at all? They have recently been added, and I tried to clarify in the list that they are not considered part of the Cascade Range proper; Skookum1 has changed the wording to make that statement stronger. In fact it is now so strong that it looks strange to even include them at all. My vote would be to remove them entirely, but include a note fairly near the start of this article about the existence of the Cascade Volcanic Belt and the possible confusion. Comments? -- Spireguy 17:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Who wrote this awful page? Do they live in the area? 95% of the Cascades are non-volcanic, yet the page is entirely about a few volcanoes and not the thousands and thousands of other peaks in the range. The Cascade Volcanoes even have their own seperate page here at Wikipedia.
This page needs to be completely deleted and rewritten by someone who understands the Cascade Range and its significance in the lower 48 states. I am not qualified to completely rewrite it but I can help.
Martin Cash 18:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Martin
I'm removing the Canadian volcanoes from the list under this topic, and replacing it with a link to Cascade Volcanoes; but I've left the volcano peaks that are in the Cascade Range. If I've read the talk too quickly and have failed to see a reason for not doing this, I'm sorry about that. Note that there is an article called List of Cascade volcanoes, which at the moment I've transcluded into the main article. — Mark ( Mkmcconn) ** 00:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
There should probably be a list of major crossings, including at least paved roads and railroads. The following is a partial list from south to north:
-- NE2 06:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
British Columbia is not a state; I don't know how to adjust the code so it displays States/Provinces for that section, mbye there's one on Selkirk Mountains that's correct, if so I'l transfer the format here; or would someone please fix it if I can't work it out. Skookum1 ( talk) 19:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, I love it when I have to eat crow pie, but I'm butchering the crows myself and am thankfully a good cook - all the better when I have to eat my own swords.....this has been bugging me for a while, so I'll take a few minutes as Hurricane Kyle rages outside and raise this ast last: I made great hay of the term Cascades not applying north of the Fraser, and while this is no longer officially true there's enough of a history to the former usage to warrant an actual section; it's also important to note that the official name as applied in Canada is Cascade Mountains, not Cascade Range. The BCGNIS for "Cascade Range" is an interesting read and dates teh first appearance in print to David Douglas., and gives othre names and terms used over time and early on. Of main interest is Joseph Trutch's 1871 map ref. swhich shows (not in BCGNIS,sadly) "Cascade Range" for the Coast Mountains (he was then, or was about to be, Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia in that newly-minted province, and had been Commissioner of Public Works and various other offices during the colonial years -including I think colonial lieutenant-governor (a very different job, deputy to the Governor; now infamous for his harsh anti-Indian attitudes and policies, including the first round of Indian Reserve reductions). His map is also mentioned in the BCGNIS for "Coast Mountains", but it wasn't an official map and despite his high status it carried no official weight. Still, however, the term is used in legal language to this day, apparently dating to the first Lands Act in 1859 (colonial era); youl'l still see on various NTS topos and BCGovt publications "Line of the Cascades as defined for administrative purposes" - one instance I'm familiar with is in teh Cayoosh Pass/ Joffre Lakes Provincial Park area of the Lillooet Ranges; everything from electoral district definitions to forest districts and other boundaries may use the term as a result of its use in legislation. I also know of one or two BC Archives photos with it in captions. So mea culpa for my hard-line stand of long ago, i've realized the relevant info and also more about NPOV in the time since; I'm hoping someone else might condense all this for the name section, plus any useful info from the two BCGNIS items provided....Il'l be back with other bits, including that BC ARchives photo-link, next time around..... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
[undent]for the benefit of the discussion and those who might not click through to read this off BCGNIS:
Adopted in Nomenclature of the Mountains of Western Canada, published 2 April 1918 by the Geographic Board of Canada; confirmed in 1936 on Geological Survey sheet 421A, Hope, as identified in BC Mines Bulletin 48: Landforms of British Columbia.
Source: BC place name cards, or correspondence to/from BC's Chief Geographer or BC Geographical Names Office
Includes Skagit Range, Hozameen Range & Okanagan Range. Extent in British Columbia: bounded on the west by Fraser River, on the north by Thompson River, on the east by Nicomen River - Lawless Creek - Tulameen River - Copper Creek - Similkamen River. This is known as "Cascade Range" in Washington and Oregon States. Source: BC place name cards, or correspondence to/from BC's Chief Geographer or BC Geographical Names Office
The following is an excerpt with citations from Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol XXVI, December 1925, p.375-380: "The Cascade Range is the great mountain backbone of Oregon and Washington...Probably the first attempt at a name for the range was by the Spaniard, Manuel Quimper, 1790, who roughly mapped it as "Sierra Madras de S. Antonio". In 1792, George Vancouver gave names to a number of the most prominent peaks, but referred to the range as "snowy range", "ridge of snowy mountains" or "range of rugged mountains". Lewis and Clark, 1805-06, mention the named peaks and frequently refef in general terms to the range of mountains. Lewis wrote: "The range of western mountains are covered with snow..." (Journals... Vol IV, pp.305, 306 & 313). "Western Mountains" is the nearest to a name for the range adopted by Lewis and Clark. John Work of the Hudson's Bay Company, wrote in December 1824: "A ridge of high mountains covered with snow..." (Washington Historical Quarterly, Vol III, pp 213, 215). David Douglas, the botanist, in writing his journal, had great need of a name for these mountains and he seems to have been the first one to use the name "Cascade". He refers again and again to the "Cascade Mountains" or "Cascade Range of Mountains" (Journals... 1823-1827, pp 221-222, 252, 257, 342). Douglas does not claim to have originated the name for the range, and earlier use of it may yet come to light. William A. Slacum's report, 1836-37, says the mountains were sometimes called "Klannet range, from the Indians of that name" (Oregon Historical Society Quarterly, Vol XIII, p.200). Hall J. Kelley of Boston, an early enthusiast on the Oregon Question...campaigned unsuccessfully 1834-39 to change the names of the great peaks by calling them after former presidents of the United States and to christen the range "Presidents Range". The Wilkes Expedition, 1841, charted the mountains as Cascade Range."
Source: Provincial Archives of BC "Place Names File" compiled 1945-1950 by A.G. Harvey from various sources, with subsequent additions
Th mention of David Douglas got me pondering that perhaps that had become the name of the area on the Columbia where the mountains flanked the river as they do; I know that's self-obvious but that woudl seem to have to be the origin alluded to as preceding Douglas' first writing it down; I know I know that's synthesis/conjecture and I'm sure sources themselves have made it; but to me, it's interesting that both ranges, i.e. on either side of the river as being quite distinct ranges - but then I come from a "sea of ranges" and while the Coast Mountains are pierced six or seven times, or more, the Rockies only once - by the Peace - .... what I'm getting at is taht it's only by a grander sense of range than the original local context; likewise for crossing the Pit and Klamath, or in the old days indeed pierced also by the Fraser - but then also by the Homathko, the Skeena, the Nass, the Unuk, the Stikine, the Taku etc. it's the Rockies that are the more impressive for being a genuine wall; the Cascade/Coast distinction relative to the overall landform is of course the same macro range; at one time there was a unity on the issue - I'd venture that the 1918 provenance of the Coast Mountains designation had t o do with rising Canadian nationalism/consciousness post-WWI; a lot of naming went on around then, and it may have even been (here I go synthesizing/conjunctifying again) an Ottawa-based geographer/bureaucrat on order to distinguish the Canadian landform/name system from neighbouring US geography (we still had invasion plans for you then...). I'm not that familiar with northern California geography - I suppose there's a gap of sortsbetween Shasta-Lassen and the Sierras? Because certainly the Cascades and Coast Mountains more deserve the name Sierra nevada - the Snowy Mountains of course - it's incidental that until renaming Mount Judge Howay and neighbouring Mount Robie Reid were formerly called The Snow Peaks, think Iv'e also seen Snowy Range; Kind of a pity the name "the San Antonios" didn't survive the Spanish era.....also consider if the name New Caledonia had stuck these might hav been, perhaps, the Caledonian Alps (though the geography is, to me, more similar to Norway). All range designations are ultimately arbitrary and human-made, though reflective of geology and erosive patterns of course; on a local scale it's rare for smaller-scale ranges to be pierced by rivers; it does happen but it's rare; the medium-sized ranges like the Selkirks and Ominecas and Cariboos and so on are also "clumpish" - the hazelton Mountains are pierced in various ways, also the Skeena Mountains. It'd be a silly listing huh? - List of mountain ranges by number of rivers piercing them, but in a sense so is the statement that runs/implicates " the Cascades are so big they're pierced by [only] three rivers" - iot's a qualitative statement and conjecture, and largely irrelevant to meaningful geographic content; more of an obvious self-redundancy; humans were the ones who defined the range as spaninning all those three rivers; the rivers themselves had nothing to do with it ;-) Are teh Sierras pierced by any rivers, by the way? Anyway, g'nite, hope yu're geting some sleep.... Skookum1 ( talk) 03:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't see a point for this page to include a list of the Cascade Volcanoes; i.e. as if they were more important to mention one-by-one than the many non-volcanic peaks; this is supposed to be a range article, not a volcanic arc article; I know there is a common perception in Oregon that the Cascades are only big volcanoes, but the North Cascades/Canadian Cascades, while nonetheless having a separate article, are still part of the range; having this big volcanoes list in this article confuses the nature of its content; yes, there should be a section, but the detailed list should be on the Cascade Volcanoes page....if no objections within a week or two, I'll do the migration; But if someone would care to pen up a different short section on teh volcanoes to go with the subsection here, that's be great (I'm a bit too prolix...); yes, the major volcanoes - Baker, Rainier, St. Helens, Adams, Hood, Three Sisters, Mazama, Shasta, Lassen - should all be mentioned; either that or a similar list of all the non-volcanic peaks northwards and inland should also be added for balance..... Skookum1 ( talk) 21:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
[undent]part of my reason for launching this issue is the length of the detailed listing of volcanoes-only; lengthy even if it were on the volcanoes page; page-length/load is an issue with any wiki page (look at Columbia River and its discussion) so extraneous materials, or materials which properly belong on another page, is always the best option ( Vancouver#History is longer than History of Vancouver though, just because we've been too lazy to make the switch or it's too complicated; likewise History of British Columbia and British Columbia#History...other mountains you might want to look at - Hozomeen for sure. Missezula Lake I'll do up a lake stub for later, as it's a fair-sized rural recreational community now; but in the Cathedral Park there's volcanic formations, so I'm guessing elsewhere in the Okanagan Range also.... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I've just amended some language in the "Ecology" section which referred only to the Cailfornia Florsitic Province, a part of an ecology-region system created by Conservation International. The self-serving nature of ecological organizations continues to boggle the imagination, they all seem to want to refer only to their own systems and make no attempt to integrate/coordinate with others; Conservation Int'l vs the World Wilflife Fund vs the Environmenta Protectiohn Agency (whose system is an extension of that from the Centre for Environmental Cooperation/CEC and is the one in use by Environment Canada). At present, the Ecology section is POV because it only makes reference to the one system, and before I amended made it sound like that organization's term was an accepted, i.e. widespread term, isntead of a definition they're trying to promote. this is an ongoing and widespread problem across Wikipedia articles, and it doesn't help that sometimes the names of said regions mimic names of landforms or other non-ecological areas; This section shoudl have a full roster of the ecoregions/ecozones that have been imposed on the CAscades by the three (four?) different eco-groups. I'm in no mood to tidy it, and I find ecology resources irritating because of their sloppy geography and loosey-goosey word games; just noting that the section is POV in its current form and needs expansion to bring balance. Skookum1 ( talk) 13:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
The following statement is misleading: "Geologists were also concerned that the St. Helens eruption would awaken other Cascade volcanoes like it did the previous century, when a total of eight erupted between 1800 and 1857." While it is true that the region was indeed active during that period, that activity was not "awakened" by Mount St. Helens. The Cascade volcanoes tend to stand in isolation from one another and are generally not linked magmaticly. Coincidental eruptions are just that, coincidences. A better phrasing might be "Geologists were also concerned that the St. Helens eruption was a sign that long-dormant Cascade volcanoes might become active once more, as in the period from 1800 to 1857 when a total of eight erupted."
"When the Cascades started to rise 7 million years ago in the Pliocene, the Columbia River drained the relatively low Columbia River Plateau." Wouldn't that be in the Miocene, not the Pliocene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.collver ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
there's been no administrator action on this CfD since I put it up the other night, and its creator User:Shannon1 approves of the move; choices are either Category:Canadian Cascades or Category:Cascade Mountains of British Columbia; the sister category is Category:North Cascades of Washington. Please drop by and "make a vote" and maybe opine on which name is better; maybe if there are more than just the two of us are present in the discussion and there is broader input it may spur an admin to action. Speedy renaming criteria did not include "mistaken name at time of creation". As noted in my comments there, it may be proper to split the North Cascades article between the US usage and the Canadian usage even though the Skagit, Hozameen and Okanagan Ranges bridge the border. Question for Americans familiar with the Okanagan Range - is it usually included in the usage of the term "North Cascades"?? Terrain-wise it's much more similar to the northern Hozameen Range and the Lytton-Coquihalla patch of the range (which doesn't have an official subrange name; unofficial names for some patches are the Anderson River Group, Llamoid Group, and Coquihalla Range, though there's no such designation for the Lytton Mtn/Kanaka Mtn area, maybe because they're not of interest to climbers. Skookum1 ( talk) 00:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Would the author of that map please re-label it; it is NOT correct to show the name "Cascade Range" on top of where the Coast Mountains are, or to label the Cascade Volcanoes in their Canadian portion as part of the Cascade Range; they are not. The label should simply be "Cascade Volcanoes" or "Cascade Volcanic Arc" or whatever the proper vulcanological group-term is. Skookum1 ( talk) 00:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
please note that the most north of the Cascade Volcanoes is mt. Silverthorn just near mt. Waddington. Also their are volcanoes of the region that are potential dangerous such as mt. meager near whistler. Canadian geo science can fill in the details of these mt. There is further volcanic activity in the bella coola area also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.50.230 ( talk) 12:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The Northern Cascades are in the Taiga Biome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.38.231.150 ( talk) 17:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
In the intro: "All of the known historic eruptions in the contiguous United States have been from Cascade volcanoes." I don't think that's correct? There are volcanoes in the Mono-Inyo Craters (long valley caldera) area that erupted 550-600 years ago. Paoha Island erupted ~250 years ago. Of course, that predates the US constitution, so you could argue that means those don't count. But I think the statement is misleading anyway, because it implies that aside from the Cascades there are no other active volcanoes in the contiguous US that erupted during a "historic" period, which is incorrect. It might be better to say that "All of the known eruptions in the last 200 years in the contiguous United States have been from Cascade volcanoes"?-- Leperflesh ( talk) 23:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Cited Fred Beckey's description of the northern limits of the Cascades--being the Nicola, Thompson, and Fraser Rivers. The northernmost point of this delineation is the confluence of the Nicola and Thompson, at Spences Bridge, British Columbia. This page had said Mount Lytton was the northernmost peak, but given Beckey's definition (who ought to count as an expert authority on the northern Cascades!) and looking at topo maps, there are obvious peaks north of Mt Lytton yet south of and between the Nicola and Thompson Rivers. None of these peaks are given names on the rough topos available via ACME Mapper. A quick search on BCGNIS turned up one-- "Mimenuh Mountain". BC Geographical Names., at 50°10'47''N, is slightly more northern than "Mount Lytton". BC Geographical Names., at 50°09'54''N--or maybe two: "Nicoamen Plateau". BC Geographical Names., at 50°12'00''N. Spences Bridge is at 50°25′25″ N. It's about 30 kilometres (19 mi) from Mt Lytton to Spences Bridge. The entire distance is mountainous, though not extremely so. Anyway, my point: I took out the mention of Mount Lytton. Pfly ( talk) 08:54, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
The Cascade Range was formed when the North American Techtonic Plate crashed into the plate next to it. I wonder how long it took or if there are any folded mountains in the Cascades. Does anyone know?-eeb
Actually the cascades are volcanic, they formed cause of the sinking of plates which melted and formed magma chambers and developed volcanoes. WanderingE1000 ( talk) 21:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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Vast majority of the article is missing citations thus I cannot give it B class. RedWolf ( talk) 04:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Changing importance to high, as it is a intrinsic part of Washington, and should be a number one priority, as it effects the whole state. Txjacob ( talk) 04:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC) |
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And I don't think it should. "Cascades" is also a popular term for the Cascade Volcanoes. From looking at the Cascade Range article, it focuses mostly on the Cascade Volcanoes and not the Cascade Range per se, leaving me in question what this redirect really should redirect to. Or maybe Cascades (disambiguation) should be renamed to Cascades. Black Tusk ( talk) 06:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Another thing I should note is what makes the Cascade Range well-known are the high peaks within it and most of those peaks are volcanoes. And many of the well-known peaks are volcanoes. Therefore I still don't think "Cascades" should redirect to the Cascade Range article. There is also the "Canadian Cascades" redirect to the North Cascades article. The Canadian portion of the Cascade Arc (the Canadian Cascade Arc) is also known as the "Canadian Cascades" and that subject is broader than the Canadian portion of mountain range. If I don't get comments within the next few days about this issue I will go ahead and make the "Cascades" and "Canadian Cascades" redirects disambiguation pages. Volcano guy 07:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
This article details very little of the Cascades in Oregon, mostly detailing Washington and California. Additional history of Mount Hood due to its climbing and recreational popularity and Mount Mazama (Crater Lake) at the least should be included. Adding more of this history would make it more thorough and balanced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.31.17 ( talk) 14:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Geologists believe that the southern limit of the cascades is the Sutter Buttes should I add it in? WanderingE1000 ( talk) 21:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I just read several websites saying the sutter buttes are an extent of the cascades WanderingE1000 ( talk) 00:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
www.syix.com/yubacity/sutterbuttes
tapestry.usgs.gov/features/33sutter.html
Check them out WanderingE1000 ( talk) 20:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Then what mountain chain claims them? WanderingE1000 ( talk) 02:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Please see this link....I've asked User:Bourrichon (think I've got that right, though maybe only a Commons username, he'd posted on my talkpage there) if he has the basemaps, or can provide English versions..... Skookum1 ( talk) 07:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The Infobox gives "Age of rock" as "Pliocene". This is nonsensical. The article states that "the Cascades began to rise … in the Pliocene", but that doesn't mean that ANY of the rocks are that age, just that their positions began to change then. In the northern part of the range, many rocks are far older; in the southern part, many are far younger. I don't know what change to make, only that it doesn't make sense as is. Maybe "Age of rock" was meant to convey "age of range" (although that's complicated by the many volcanoes)? In which case I'd say the entry should be "Pliocene through Holocene". Wildbirdz ( talk) 07:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Why is it only showing the American cascades with a caption saying it's all of them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:4F66:5900:3D35:D600:58D:86F9 ( talk) 16:14, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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Edited Link for Mt. Washington as it took one to a page on Mount Washington in New Hampshire. This new external link will take one to Mt. Washington in Oregon, in the Cascade Mountain Range. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.145.40.43 ( talk) 07:48, 19 January 2003 (UTC)
This article could benefit from a separation of the Geography and Geology of the Cascades, and an expansion of their geology. As is, this article gives heavy emphasis to the volcanoes (perhaps justified, as they are generally the highest); however, most of the range north of Mt. Rainier is non-volcanic or ancient volcanic (i.e. unrelated to active volcanoes) in origin. Also, a mention of the glacial history of the range would be appropriate. BlueCanoe 00:29, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
I reset changes to the text that clarify the status of Mount Garibaldi as part of the Coast Mountains and NOT the Cascade Range; it is a Cascade Volcano but the Coast Mountains are NOT (repeat NOT) part of the Cascade Range, which ends at the Fraser River. I made similar changes to the Cascade Range entry previously, including some description of the Canadian portion of the range, but someone thought I was "vandalizing" the entry (by correcting its mis-statements, apparently) and reverted back, losing much of my Canadian stuff and the clarification of Mt Garibaldi's range grouping (repeat after me, Garibaldi Ranges of the Pacific Ranges of the Coast Mountains, and NO the Coast Mountains are NOT the northward extension of the Cascade Range, no more than 54-40 is the northern border of the State of Washington . . . ) Skookum1 02:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I feel that the North Cascades deserve a separate article (" North Cascades" currently redirects here). They are quite different from the volcanoes, and quite important, at least to the climbing community. Any objections to my starting one? Should it instead be a section of this article? Comments? -- Spireguy 04:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Created this morning by seat-of-pants while doing other BC Mountain ranges; realize now it's a non sequitur as there's nowhere to put it, really, on the main article, as there's no separate section for the Canadian Cascades, which are really part of the North Cascades (as far as the Coquihalla/Sumallo Rivers anyway). Wondering what to do here - make a separate Canadian Cascades section, or source a larger map showing the US side of the range as well? The terrain map is based on USGS data and is in Wikimedia commons as BC-relief.png; if there's a similar map, at the same scale for Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, maybe we could integrate them; will need to do the same for the Boundary Ranges with an Alaska map, too; also the St. Elias Mtns. Skookum1 16:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I would say that the images are getting a bit much here. There are too many in the first section, and some of the other pictures don't relate well to the text they are with. Anyone want to fix that, or should I take a stab? -- Spireguy 04:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to add some details on the Canadian-side geography, but in scanning the page it occurred to me the range is somewhat rich in legends: the two that come to mind are the old "marriage" between Mts Baker and Rainier (Baker hitched up her skirts and moved northward....maybe suggesting memory of a Glacier Peak eruption followed by a Mt Baker one?) and the various legends/mythologies associated with Tahoma (Mt Rainier). And, most obvious of all although I'm sure it's covered on its own page, Mount Shasta. The main mountain legends should all maybe have brief précis on this page, I think. Skookum1 21:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd be interested in the source of the very interesting information that the Medicine Lake volcano is the largest by volume in the Cascade Range. These are really big mountains, and Medicine Lake certainly does not present the visual image of a large volcano - is the volume that's being measured underground? Source please! NorCalHistory 01:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought it was fairly common knowledge. Here's a link to the USGS CVO website which lists several references: http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MedicineLake/description_medicine_lake.html . Medicine Lake and Newberry may be topographically dwarfed by Shasta and Rainier, but most of a volcano's volume is near the base and Medicine Lake has a very large base. FuQuaoar 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this:
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination, the Othello Tunnels, a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator).
When the parenthetical remark is a full sentence, which this is, it should be treated as such, viz:
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination, the Othello Tunnels, a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (Waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator.)
This is standard style stuff, although I didn't find it specifically addressed in a quick search of WP:MOS. I didn't want to revert again, since that can be rude. But it really should be in the latter form above. (I wikilinked the Shakespeare parts, since the remark calls attention to that. Maybe a good idea, maybe not.) Comments? I can find a reference if this is controversial. -- Spireguy 20:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Othello Tunnels, not Othello Tunnels. The Othello Tunnels should have their own link and article; Othello if linked separately here should be Othello, British Columbia - theoretically, but it was only a whistlestop; there may be a TransCanada Trail]] article/section on the Tunnels, but they' re a unit and go by that name; there's no point in referring to the Shakespeare character/play as it would be linked in any Othello Tunnel article; I think I didn't link it before, if it was me who put it in, as there was no article yet. The Shakespeare ref should go to the Bard here (the section head's daughter was an actress or literary student) but be advised that some other Shakespeare-placenames in BC may be named for Noah Shakespeare, a one-time Victoria civic politician and member of the legislature (or Member of Parliament). Skookum1 21:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Now that we've cleared that up, I think there are too many commas in the thing, and for clarity it should probably read like this (though I am rather overfond of dashes). :)
The railway's roadbed, now decommissioned, is a popular tourist recreation destination—the Othello Tunnels—a hiking and biking trail near Hope, B.C. (Waystations along the line were given Shakespearean names by the local CBC administrator.)
Katr67 06:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I rewrote the first paragraph to be more readable and also more balanced between the High Cascade volcanoes and the rest of the range. Most of the range is not volcanic, and the volcanoes are not the only famous/notable parts. I think it's better now. Comments? -- Spireguy 20:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
The recent edits by Skookum1 make clear that we need to establish the relationship between the Cascade Volcanoes (i.e. the Cascade Volcanic Belt) and the Cascade Range. Should the volcanoes north of the Fraser be included in this article at all? They have recently been added, and I tried to clarify in the list that they are not considered part of the Cascade Range proper; Skookum1 has changed the wording to make that statement stronger. In fact it is now so strong that it looks strange to even include them at all. My vote would be to remove them entirely, but include a note fairly near the start of this article about the existence of the Cascade Volcanic Belt and the possible confusion. Comments? -- Spireguy 17:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Who wrote this awful page? Do they live in the area? 95% of the Cascades are non-volcanic, yet the page is entirely about a few volcanoes and not the thousands and thousands of other peaks in the range. The Cascade Volcanoes even have their own seperate page here at Wikipedia.
This page needs to be completely deleted and rewritten by someone who understands the Cascade Range and its significance in the lower 48 states. I am not qualified to completely rewrite it but I can help.
Martin Cash 18:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Martin
I'm removing the Canadian volcanoes from the list under this topic, and replacing it with a link to Cascade Volcanoes; but I've left the volcano peaks that are in the Cascade Range. If I've read the talk too quickly and have failed to see a reason for not doing this, I'm sorry about that. Note that there is an article called List of Cascade volcanoes, which at the moment I've transcluded into the main article. — Mark ( Mkmcconn) ** 00:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
There should probably be a list of major crossings, including at least paved roads and railroads. The following is a partial list from south to north:
-- NE2 06:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
British Columbia is not a state; I don't know how to adjust the code so it displays States/Provinces for that section, mbye there's one on Selkirk Mountains that's correct, if so I'l transfer the format here; or would someone please fix it if I can't work it out. Skookum1 ( talk) 19:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, I love it when I have to eat crow pie, but I'm butchering the crows myself and am thankfully a good cook - all the better when I have to eat my own swords.....this has been bugging me for a while, so I'll take a few minutes as Hurricane Kyle rages outside and raise this ast last: I made great hay of the term Cascades not applying north of the Fraser, and while this is no longer officially true there's enough of a history to the former usage to warrant an actual section; it's also important to note that the official name as applied in Canada is Cascade Mountains, not Cascade Range. The BCGNIS for "Cascade Range" is an interesting read and dates teh first appearance in print to David Douglas., and gives othre names and terms used over time and early on. Of main interest is Joseph Trutch's 1871 map ref. swhich shows (not in BCGNIS,sadly) "Cascade Range" for the Coast Mountains (he was then, or was about to be, Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia in that newly-minted province, and had been Commissioner of Public Works and various other offices during the colonial years -including I think colonial lieutenant-governor (a very different job, deputy to the Governor; now infamous for his harsh anti-Indian attitudes and policies, including the first round of Indian Reserve reductions). His map is also mentioned in the BCGNIS for "Coast Mountains", but it wasn't an official map and despite his high status it carried no official weight. Still, however, the term is used in legal language to this day, apparently dating to the first Lands Act in 1859 (colonial era); youl'l still see on various NTS topos and BCGovt publications "Line of the Cascades as defined for administrative purposes" - one instance I'm familiar with is in teh Cayoosh Pass/ Joffre Lakes Provincial Park area of the Lillooet Ranges; everything from electoral district definitions to forest districts and other boundaries may use the term as a result of its use in legislation. I also know of one or two BC Archives photos with it in captions. So mea culpa for my hard-line stand of long ago, i've realized the relevant info and also more about NPOV in the time since; I'm hoping someone else might condense all this for the name section, plus any useful info from the two BCGNIS items provided....Il'l be back with other bits, including that BC ARchives photo-link, next time around..... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
[undent]for the benefit of the discussion and those who might not click through to read this off BCGNIS:
Adopted in Nomenclature of the Mountains of Western Canada, published 2 April 1918 by the Geographic Board of Canada; confirmed in 1936 on Geological Survey sheet 421A, Hope, as identified in BC Mines Bulletin 48: Landforms of British Columbia.
Source: BC place name cards, or correspondence to/from BC's Chief Geographer or BC Geographical Names Office
Includes Skagit Range, Hozameen Range & Okanagan Range. Extent in British Columbia: bounded on the west by Fraser River, on the north by Thompson River, on the east by Nicomen River - Lawless Creek - Tulameen River - Copper Creek - Similkamen River. This is known as "Cascade Range" in Washington and Oregon States. Source: BC place name cards, or correspondence to/from BC's Chief Geographer or BC Geographical Names Office
The following is an excerpt with citations from Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol XXVI, December 1925, p.375-380: "The Cascade Range is the great mountain backbone of Oregon and Washington...Probably the first attempt at a name for the range was by the Spaniard, Manuel Quimper, 1790, who roughly mapped it as "Sierra Madras de S. Antonio". In 1792, George Vancouver gave names to a number of the most prominent peaks, but referred to the range as "snowy range", "ridge of snowy mountains" or "range of rugged mountains". Lewis and Clark, 1805-06, mention the named peaks and frequently refef in general terms to the range of mountains. Lewis wrote: "The range of western mountains are covered with snow..." (Journals... Vol IV, pp.305, 306 & 313). "Western Mountains" is the nearest to a name for the range adopted by Lewis and Clark. John Work of the Hudson's Bay Company, wrote in December 1824: "A ridge of high mountains covered with snow..." (Washington Historical Quarterly, Vol III, pp 213, 215). David Douglas, the botanist, in writing his journal, had great need of a name for these mountains and he seems to have been the first one to use the name "Cascade". He refers again and again to the "Cascade Mountains" or "Cascade Range of Mountains" (Journals... 1823-1827, pp 221-222, 252, 257, 342). Douglas does not claim to have originated the name for the range, and earlier use of it may yet come to light. William A. Slacum's report, 1836-37, says the mountains were sometimes called "Klannet range, from the Indians of that name" (Oregon Historical Society Quarterly, Vol XIII, p.200). Hall J. Kelley of Boston, an early enthusiast on the Oregon Question...campaigned unsuccessfully 1834-39 to change the names of the great peaks by calling them after former presidents of the United States and to christen the range "Presidents Range". The Wilkes Expedition, 1841, charted the mountains as Cascade Range."
Source: Provincial Archives of BC "Place Names File" compiled 1945-1950 by A.G. Harvey from various sources, with subsequent additions
Th mention of David Douglas got me pondering that perhaps that had become the name of the area on the Columbia where the mountains flanked the river as they do; I know that's self-obvious but that woudl seem to have to be the origin alluded to as preceding Douglas' first writing it down; I know I know that's synthesis/conjecture and I'm sure sources themselves have made it; but to me, it's interesting that both ranges, i.e. on either side of the river as being quite distinct ranges - but then I come from a "sea of ranges" and while the Coast Mountains are pierced six or seven times, or more, the Rockies only once - by the Peace - .... what I'm getting at is taht it's only by a grander sense of range than the original local context; likewise for crossing the Pit and Klamath, or in the old days indeed pierced also by the Fraser - but then also by the Homathko, the Skeena, the Nass, the Unuk, the Stikine, the Taku etc. it's the Rockies that are the more impressive for being a genuine wall; the Cascade/Coast distinction relative to the overall landform is of course the same macro range; at one time there was a unity on the issue - I'd venture that the 1918 provenance of the Coast Mountains designation had t o do with rising Canadian nationalism/consciousness post-WWI; a lot of naming went on around then, and it may have even been (here I go synthesizing/conjunctifying again) an Ottawa-based geographer/bureaucrat on order to distinguish the Canadian landform/name system from neighbouring US geography (we still had invasion plans for you then...). I'm not that familiar with northern California geography - I suppose there's a gap of sortsbetween Shasta-Lassen and the Sierras? Because certainly the Cascades and Coast Mountains more deserve the name Sierra nevada - the Snowy Mountains of course - it's incidental that until renaming Mount Judge Howay and neighbouring Mount Robie Reid were formerly called The Snow Peaks, think Iv'e also seen Snowy Range; Kind of a pity the name "the San Antonios" didn't survive the Spanish era.....also consider if the name New Caledonia had stuck these might hav been, perhaps, the Caledonian Alps (though the geography is, to me, more similar to Norway). All range designations are ultimately arbitrary and human-made, though reflective of geology and erosive patterns of course; on a local scale it's rare for smaller-scale ranges to be pierced by rivers; it does happen but it's rare; the medium-sized ranges like the Selkirks and Ominecas and Cariboos and so on are also "clumpish" - the hazelton Mountains are pierced in various ways, also the Skeena Mountains. It'd be a silly listing huh? - List of mountain ranges by number of rivers piercing them, but in a sense so is the statement that runs/implicates " the Cascades are so big they're pierced by [only] three rivers" - iot's a qualitative statement and conjecture, and largely irrelevant to meaningful geographic content; more of an obvious self-redundancy; humans were the ones who defined the range as spaninning all those three rivers; the rivers themselves had nothing to do with it ;-) Are teh Sierras pierced by any rivers, by the way? Anyway, g'nite, hope yu're geting some sleep.... Skookum1 ( talk) 03:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't see a point for this page to include a list of the Cascade Volcanoes; i.e. as if they were more important to mention one-by-one than the many non-volcanic peaks; this is supposed to be a range article, not a volcanic arc article; I know there is a common perception in Oregon that the Cascades are only big volcanoes, but the North Cascades/Canadian Cascades, while nonetheless having a separate article, are still part of the range; having this big volcanoes list in this article confuses the nature of its content; yes, there should be a section, but the detailed list should be on the Cascade Volcanoes page....if no objections within a week or two, I'll do the migration; But if someone would care to pen up a different short section on teh volcanoes to go with the subsection here, that's be great (I'm a bit too prolix...); yes, the major volcanoes - Baker, Rainier, St. Helens, Adams, Hood, Three Sisters, Mazama, Shasta, Lassen - should all be mentioned; either that or a similar list of all the non-volcanic peaks northwards and inland should also be added for balance..... Skookum1 ( talk) 21:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
[undent]part of my reason for launching this issue is the length of the detailed listing of volcanoes-only; lengthy even if it were on the volcanoes page; page-length/load is an issue with any wiki page (look at Columbia River and its discussion) so extraneous materials, or materials which properly belong on another page, is always the best option ( Vancouver#History is longer than History of Vancouver though, just because we've been too lazy to make the switch or it's too complicated; likewise History of British Columbia and British Columbia#History...other mountains you might want to look at - Hozomeen for sure. Missezula Lake I'll do up a lake stub for later, as it's a fair-sized rural recreational community now; but in the Cathedral Park there's volcanic formations, so I'm guessing elsewhere in the Okanagan Range also.... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I've just amended some language in the "Ecology" section which referred only to the Cailfornia Florsitic Province, a part of an ecology-region system created by Conservation International. The self-serving nature of ecological organizations continues to boggle the imagination, they all seem to want to refer only to their own systems and make no attempt to integrate/coordinate with others; Conservation Int'l vs the World Wilflife Fund vs the Environmenta Protectiohn Agency (whose system is an extension of that from the Centre for Environmental Cooperation/CEC and is the one in use by Environment Canada). At present, the Ecology section is POV because it only makes reference to the one system, and before I amended made it sound like that organization's term was an accepted, i.e. widespread term, isntead of a definition they're trying to promote. this is an ongoing and widespread problem across Wikipedia articles, and it doesn't help that sometimes the names of said regions mimic names of landforms or other non-ecological areas; This section shoudl have a full roster of the ecoregions/ecozones that have been imposed on the CAscades by the three (four?) different eco-groups. I'm in no mood to tidy it, and I find ecology resources irritating because of their sloppy geography and loosey-goosey word games; just noting that the section is POV in its current form and needs expansion to bring balance. Skookum1 ( talk) 13:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
The following statement is misleading: "Geologists were also concerned that the St. Helens eruption would awaken other Cascade volcanoes like it did the previous century, when a total of eight erupted between 1800 and 1857." While it is true that the region was indeed active during that period, that activity was not "awakened" by Mount St. Helens. The Cascade volcanoes tend to stand in isolation from one another and are generally not linked magmaticly. Coincidental eruptions are just that, coincidences. A better phrasing might be "Geologists were also concerned that the St. Helens eruption was a sign that long-dormant Cascade volcanoes might become active once more, as in the period from 1800 to 1857 when a total of eight erupted."
"When the Cascades started to rise 7 million years ago in the Pliocene, the Columbia River drained the relatively low Columbia River Plateau." Wouldn't that be in the Miocene, not the Pliocene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.collver ( talk • contribs) 09:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
there's been no administrator action on this CfD since I put it up the other night, and its creator User:Shannon1 approves of the move; choices are either Category:Canadian Cascades or Category:Cascade Mountains of British Columbia; the sister category is Category:North Cascades of Washington. Please drop by and "make a vote" and maybe opine on which name is better; maybe if there are more than just the two of us are present in the discussion and there is broader input it may spur an admin to action. Speedy renaming criteria did not include "mistaken name at time of creation". As noted in my comments there, it may be proper to split the North Cascades article between the US usage and the Canadian usage even though the Skagit, Hozameen and Okanagan Ranges bridge the border. Question for Americans familiar with the Okanagan Range - is it usually included in the usage of the term "North Cascades"?? Terrain-wise it's much more similar to the northern Hozameen Range and the Lytton-Coquihalla patch of the range (which doesn't have an official subrange name; unofficial names for some patches are the Anderson River Group, Llamoid Group, and Coquihalla Range, though there's no such designation for the Lytton Mtn/Kanaka Mtn area, maybe because they're not of interest to climbers. Skookum1 ( talk) 00:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Would the author of that map please re-label it; it is NOT correct to show the name "Cascade Range" on top of where the Coast Mountains are, or to label the Cascade Volcanoes in their Canadian portion as part of the Cascade Range; they are not. The label should simply be "Cascade Volcanoes" or "Cascade Volcanic Arc" or whatever the proper vulcanological group-term is. Skookum1 ( talk) 00:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
please note that the most north of the Cascade Volcanoes is mt. Silverthorn just near mt. Waddington. Also their are volcanoes of the region that are potential dangerous such as mt. meager near whistler. Canadian geo science can fill in the details of these mt. There is further volcanic activity in the bella coola area also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.50.230 ( talk) 12:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The Northern Cascades are in the Taiga Biome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.38.231.150 ( talk) 17:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
In the intro: "All of the known historic eruptions in the contiguous United States have been from Cascade volcanoes." I don't think that's correct? There are volcanoes in the Mono-Inyo Craters (long valley caldera) area that erupted 550-600 years ago. Paoha Island erupted ~250 years ago. Of course, that predates the US constitution, so you could argue that means those don't count. But I think the statement is misleading anyway, because it implies that aside from the Cascades there are no other active volcanoes in the contiguous US that erupted during a "historic" period, which is incorrect. It might be better to say that "All of the known eruptions in the last 200 years in the contiguous United States have been from Cascade volcanoes"?-- Leperflesh ( talk) 23:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Cited Fred Beckey's description of the northern limits of the Cascades--being the Nicola, Thompson, and Fraser Rivers. The northernmost point of this delineation is the confluence of the Nicola and Thompson, at Spences Bridge, British Columbia. This page had said Mount Lytton was the northernmost peak, but given Beckey's definition (who ought to count as an expert authority on the northern Cascades!) and looking at topo maps, there are obvious peaks north of Mt Lytton yet south of and between the Nicola and Thompson Rivers. None of these peaks are given names on the rough topos available via ACME Mapper. A quick search on BCGNIS turned up one-- "Mimenuh Mountain". BC Geographical Names., at 50°10'47''N, is slightly more northern than "Mount Lytton". BC Geographical Names., at 50°09'54''N--or maybe two: "Nicoamen Plateau". BC Geographical Names., at 50°12'00''N. Spences Bridge is at 50°25′25″ N. It's about 30 kilometres (19 mi) from Mt Lytton to Spences Bridge. The entire distance is mountainous, though not extremely so. Anyway, my point: I took out the mention of Mount Lytton. Pfly ( talk) 08:54, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
The Cascade Range was formed when the North American Techtonic Plate crashed into the plate next to it. I wonder how long it took or if there are any folded mountains in the Cascades. Does anyone know?-eeb
Actually the cascades are volcanic, they formed cause of the sinking of plates which melted and formed magma chambers and developed volcanoes. WanderingE1000 ( talk) 21:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Cascade Range/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Vast majority of the article is missing citations thus I cannot give it B class. RedWolf ( talk) 04:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Changing importance to high, as it is a intrinsic part of Washington, and should be a number one priority, as it effects the whole state. Txjacob ( talk) 04:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC) |
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And I don't think it should. "Cascades" is also a popular term for the Cascade Volcanoes. From looking at the Cascade Range article, it focuses mostly on the Cascade Volcanoes and not the Cascade Range per se, leaving me in question what this redirect really should redirect to. Or maybe Cascades (disambiguation) should be renamed to Cascades. Black Tusk ( talk) 06:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Another thing I should note is what makes the Cascade Range well-known are the high peaks within it and most of those peaks are volcanoes. And many of the well-known peaks are volcanoes. Therefore I still don't think "Cascades" should redirect to the Cascade Range article. There is also the "Canadian Cascades" redirect to the North Cascades article. The Canadian portion of the Cascade Arc (the Canadian Cascade Arc) is also known as the "Canadian Cascades" and that subject is broader than the Canadian portion of mountain range. If I don't get comments within the next few days about this issue I will go ahead and make the "Cascades" and "Canadian Cascades" redirects disambiguation pages. Volcano guy 07:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
This article details very little of the Cascades in Oregon, mostly detailing Washington and California. Additional history of Mount Hood due to its climbing and recreational popularity and Mount Mazama (Crater Lake) at the least should be included. Adding more of this history would make it more thorough and balanced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.31.17 ( talk) 14:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Geologists believe that the southern limit of the cascades is the Sutter Buttes should I add it in? WanderingE1000 ( talk) 21:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I just read several websites saying the sutter buttes are an extent of the cascades WanderingE1000 ( talk) 00:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
www.syix.com/yubacity/sutterbuttes
tapestry.usgs.gov/features/33sutter.html
Check them out WanderingE1000 ( talk) 20:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Then what mountain chain claims them? WanderingE1000 ( talk) 02:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Please see this link....I've asked User:Bourrichon (think I've got that right, though maybe only a Commons username, he'd posted on my talkpage there) if he has the basemaps, or can provide English versions..... Skookum1 ( talk) 07:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The Infobox gives "Age of rock" as "Pliocene". This is nonsensical. The article states that "the Cascades began to rise … in the Pliocene", but that doesn't mean that ANY of the rocks are that age, just that their positions began to change then. In the northern part of the range, many rocks are far older; in the southern part, many are far younger. I don't know what change to make, only that it doesn't make sense as is. Maybe "Age of rock" was meant to convey "age of range" (although that's complicated by the many volcanoes)? In which case I'd say the entry should be "Pliocene through Holocene". Wildbirdz ( talk) 07:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Why is it only showing the American cascades with a caption saying it's all of them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:4F66:5900:3D35:D600:58D:86F9 ( talk) 16:14, 23 May 2018 (UTC)