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I am going to request this article be deleted unless proof is placed within the article establishing notability. WP:N states that "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, reliable published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself." The only reason I am placing this here rather than requesting deletion is that I have read such materials about Carvin myself; but I cannot cite every article myself. CyberAnth 20:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, it may require some re-working of the text to reflect the available allowable and reliable sources. I have personal recollection of extensive coverage of Carvin guitars and amps in Guitar Mag, and Musician Mag, starting many years back. So I know very quality, meaty, and detailed sources are out there. But overall, here is the exact policy for articles of this type: Wikipedia:Notability_(companies_and_corporations).
Does the Carvin site have scanned images of or pointers to coverage in such mags? They used to. Also, you can post stuff here and people can help work out how to work it in.
I MIGHT have time to help. I did work in the cite you have above. Maybe how I did that that can serve as a bit of pattern on how to go about clearly establishing notability to the average reader. We musicians do not need anyone to establish to us notability for Carvin. But we write for the average reader, not the specialist. Assume your reader has never heard of Carvin and is asking, "Okay, so why the heck should I care???" See what I mean?
Also, once notability is established via multiple external sources, WP:V#Self-published_and_dubious_sources_in_articles_about_the_author.28s.29 probably comes into play and you can use info from the Carvin site.
CyberAnth 10:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a few links that may prove useful http://www.vintageguitar.com/brands/details.asp?ID=209, http://www.proaudioreview.com/musician_reviews/carvinC780.shtml, http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storycode=16259 |
There are also some Wikipedia pages referencing Carvin, for example Vinnie Vincent or Alex Lifeson. Gamiar 20:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Carvin is a well-established brand, not just a small-time guitar shop. They have a product catalog with national circulation, and have an article for their 60th anniversary in the February 2007 issue of Guitar World magazine [1]. Surely recognition in two of the most widely circulated American guitar magazines (Guitar Player and Guitar World) establishes Carvin as a notable brand. Endorsement from world famous musicians such as Steve Vai must also count for something.
Flypanam 19:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
To add to my comment before, it states on Steve Vai's own website that he uses Ibanez Guitars coupled with his signature Carvin Legacy amplifiers [2]. Also, there is proof in the form of concert reviews that, on top of his many stage decorations, Frank Zappa used Carvin amplifiers [3]. Bassist Greta Brinkman, touring bassist for Moby, plays and endorses Carvin basses [4]. Flypanam 23:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be more of an advertisement for Carver, and although it seems to have a more or less NPOV, it sure reads like some sort of marketing brochure.
Carvin Corporation split into two corporate entities in 2015. The original Carvin Corporation continues to operate with the Pro Audio and Amplification portions of the company. A new corporate entity, Kiesel Guitars, was launched by Mark Kiesel, with Jeff Kiesel as VP. The guitar portion of company, Carvin Guitars, was split off and put under Kiesel Guitars.
Carvin Corporation should NOT be redirected to Kiesel Guitars, because it still exists and is the older and longer established of the two. -- ferret ( talk) 16:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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The "Fate" and "Defunct" categories listed under Carvin Corporation are incorrect. The company is not closed nor is it defunct. The below true statements have been added to the page. Please the above change.
On June 14, 2018 Carvin announced the warehouse has been moved to a centralized USA location to offer customers faster shipping countrywide. The brand continues on with its line of active loudspeakers, wireless microphones and tube preamp pedals.
On January 25, 2019, Carvin Amps and Audio announced the release of its new SCx and QX series active loudspeakers.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Carvincorp ( talk • contribs) 16:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!
Regards,
Spintendo 18:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Question @ Ferret: Regarding the claims just recently added regarding the moving of the wherehouse, would you happen to know if this should pertain to the Kiesel part of the company you described in an earlier post or if it applies to Carvin Corp.? I wasn't sure and you seem to know more about this company than I do. Thank for any input you can offer. Spintendo 18:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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I am going to request this article be deleted unless proof is placed within the article establishing notability. WP:N states that "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, reliable published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself." The only reason I am placing this here rather than requesting deletion is that I have read such materials about Carvin myself; but I cannot cite every article myself. CyberAnth 20:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, it may require some re-working of the text to reflect the available allowable and reliable sources. I have personal recollection of extensive coverage of Carvin guitars and amps in Guitar Mag, and Musician Mag, starting many years back. So I know very quality, meaty, and detailed sources are out there. But overall, here is the exact policy for articles of this type: Wikipedia:Notability_(companies_and_corporations).
Does the Carvin site have scanned images of or pointers to coverage in such mags? They used to. Also, you can post stuff here and people can help work out how to work it in.
I MIGHT have time to help. I did work in the cite you have above. Maybe how I did that that can serve as a bit of pattern on how to go about clearly establishing notability to the average reader. We musicians do not need anyone to establish to us notability for Carvin. But we write for the average reader, not the specialist. Assume your reader has never heard of Carvin and is asking, "Okay, so why the heck should I care???" See what I mean?
Also, once notability is established via multiple external sources, WP:V#Self-published_and_dubious_sources_in_articles_about_the_author.28s.29 probably comes into play and you can use info from the Carvin site.
CyberAnth 10:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a few links that may prove useful http://www.vintageguitar.com/brands/details.asp?ID=209, http://www.proaudioreview.com/musician_reviews/carvinC780.shtml, http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storycode=16259 |
There are also some Wikipedia pages referencing Carvin, for example Vinnie Vincent or Alex Lifeson. Gamiar 20:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Carvin is a well-established brand, not just a small-time guitar shop. They have a product catalog with national circulation, and have an article for their 60th anniversary in the February 2007 issue of Guitar World magazine [1]. Surely recognition in two of the most widely circulated American guitar magazines (Guitar Player and Guitar World) establishes Carvin as a notable brand. Endorsement from world famous musicians such as Steve Vai must also count for something.
Flypanam 19:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
To add to my comment before, it states on Steve Vai's own website that he uses Ibanez Guitars coupled with his signature Carvin Legacy amplifiers [2]. Also, there is proof in the form of concert reviews that, on top of his many stage decorations, Frank Zappa used Carvin amplifiers [3]. Bassist Greta Brinkman, touring bassist for Moby, plays and endorses Carvin basses [4]. Flypanam 23:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be more of an advertisement for Carver, and although it seems to have a more or less NPOV, it sure reads like some sort of marketing brochure.
Carvin Corporation split into two corporate entities in 2015. The original Carvin Corporation continues to operate with the Pro Audio and Amplification portions of the company. A new corporate entity, Kiesel Guitars, was launched by Mark Kiesel, with Jeff Kiesel as VP. The guitar portion of company, Carvin Guitars, was split off and put under Kiesel Guitars.
Carvin Corporation should NOT be redirected to Kiesel Guitars, because it still exists and is the older and longer established of the two. -- ferret ( talk) 16:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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The "Fate" and "Defunct" categories listed under Carvin Corporation are incorrect. The company is not closed nor is it defunct. The below true statements have been added to the page. Please the above change.
On June 14, 2018 Carvin announced the warehouse has been moved to a centralized USA location to offer customers faster shipping countrywide. The brand continues on with its line of active loudspeakers, wireless microphones and tube preamp pedals.
On January 25, 2019, Carvin Amps and Audio announced the release of its new SCx and QX series active loudspeakers.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Carvincorp ( talk • contribs) 16:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!
Regards,
Spintendo 18:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Question @ Ferret: Regarding the claims just recently added regarding the moving of the wherehouse, would you happen to know if this should pertain to the Kiesel part of the company you described in an earlier post or if it applies to Carvin Corp.? I wasn't sure and you seem to know more about this company than I do. Thank for any input you can offer. Spintendo 18:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)