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Reviewer: SusunW ( talk · contribs) 13:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
I'll look at this one. Looking forward to learning about her. SusunW ( talk) 13:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Among her family, she was known as "Carrie". Her father ensured she received a quality education in contrast to the minimal education that women typically received at the time. She attended two schools that had been founded by her father: a girls' school in Cincinnati and then the Oxford Female Instituteis not supported by the citation. Source does call her Carrie (p 187) but doesn't indicate if that was in wide use or limited to family. It does confirm her father insisted on her being educated. (also p 187) Foster confirms that was within the family, need to add citation. This source says women's education was limited in the first half of the 19th century. You should add a citation either to the source I found, or another, and possibly link to [[Women's education in the United States|minimal education]]. Schneider p. 148 confirms both schools were founded by her father (but Moore says p. 4 that he was invited by the founders to become president, so maybe he was the founding president and not a founder?).
After their marriage, they stayed at the Harrison family home in North Bend, Ohio until Benjamin began a legal career in Indianapolis, probably needs clarification. Longo p 96 says Benjamin had to complete a 2-year apprenticeship. Hendricks says he finished that in 1854 (p 187) and then they moved to Indianapolis. Schneider confirms (p 148) that he was admitted to the bar in 1854 and then they moved to Indianapolis. (Year is imperative as article says house burned the "same year" but no year is ever mentioned in the paragraph.)
More to follow, but it's a start. It is obvious from the history that when you started it was in definite need of attention and hardly had any citations. It isn't easy to rework an article in that shape and I appreciate your hard work to improve the article. SusunW ( talk) 18:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Caroline continued her education after the war, taking literature and art classes. Her pursuit of literature lead her to establish a literary club in the community to discuss the subject, while her pursuit of art became such that she began featuring her work in art exhibitions.[2] She also took a position on the board of lady managers of the Garfield Hospital.next and then move his continuing in politics to a new ¶. Note, she was “led” not “lead”.
a literary clubperhaps “the Impromptu Club, to read and discuss literature” (Hendricks p 188)( Schneider p. 150)
Benjamin continued to pursue politics after the war, and he would regularly consult Caroline for her opinions on political matters.I see that Schneider p. 150 talks about him going into politics, but not that she became an advisor to him. Watson p 154 confirms that, so you need to add a citation.
More to come. SusunW ( talk) 21:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Both her daughter and her daughter-in-law helped with the responsibilities of the first lady.is supported by Scofield, but it is in Schneider p.151. Correct citation.
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 13:33, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
continual need of refurnishingcited to Scherber, I think you need to add that she inventoried the contents of each room in the White House, cataloging art, decorations, and furnishings and recording their provenance for posterity.(Henderson p 190)(Schneider p 151) That seems like a massive undertaking and important to the history of the country and her tenure in the White House.
It is believed that she died as a result of an illness, such as typhoid fever or influenza, affecting her while she suffered from tuberculosis.Hendricks p 192, says death was "attributed to tuberculosis" and complications of "typhoid and/or influenza", not the other way around.
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 14:20, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 14:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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That's it from me. Very much enjoyed learning about her and I applaud your efforts to improve the article. Please ping me when you are ready for me to review the answers, as I tend to get really busy.
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Improved to Good Article status by Thebiguglyalien ( talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke ( talk) at 21:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC).
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Valereee (
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Onegreatjoke, also pinging GA reviewer SusunW, who may have some idea of whether we might be able to create a stub for "milk set"? I'm on the road right now but would probably be able to do some research between Nov3-7, when I'll be in one place for several days. Valereee ( talk) 13:46, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
with piped link in ALT0, ALT1 also approved.
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16:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
I was asked to look over this article prior to FAC, so here are some comments. I will copy-edit as I go in the interests of efficiency, but please feel to question any changes I make, I am happy to discuss them. Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Having read through the article in its entirety, I believe it is in good shape, but not quite at an FAC standard. There's a source that appears underutilized; some gaps in the information, which I've mentioned above; and some places where the prose could be tightened. I've done some copy-editing, but another round may be needed after any expansions are done. Regards, Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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Caroline Harrison would mail
ceramic milk sets to parents that named their children after U.S president
Benjamin Harrison? | |||||||||
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Reviewer: SusunW ( talk · contribs) 13:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
I'll look at this one. Looking forward to learning about her. SusunW ( talk) 13:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Among her family, she was known as "Carrie". Her father ensured she received a quality education in contrast to the minimal education that women typically received at the time. She attended two schools that had been founded by her father: a girls' school in Cincinnati and then the Oxford Female Instituteis not supported by the citation. Source does call her Carrie (p 187) but doesn't indicate if that was in wide use or limited to family. It does confirm her father insisted on her being educated. (also p 187) Foster confirms that was within the family, need to add citation. This source says women's education was limited in the first half of the 19th century. You should add a citation either to the source I found, or another, and possibly link to [[Women's education in the United States|minimal education]]. Schneider p. 148 confirms both schools were founded by her father (but Moore says p. 4 that he was invited by the founders to become president, so maybe he was the founding president and not a founder?).
After their marriage, they stayed at the Harrison family home in North Bend, Ohio until Benjamin began a legal career in Indianapolis, probably needs clarification. Longo p 96 says Benjamin had to complete a 2-year apprenticeship. Hendricks says he finished that in 1854 (p 187) and then they moved to Indianapolis. Schneider confirms (p 148) that he was admitted to the bar in 1854 and then they moved to Indianapolis. (Year is imperative as article says house burned the "same year" but no year is ever mentioned in the paragraph.)
More to follow, but it's a start. It is obvious from the history that when you started it was in definite need of attention and hardly had any citations. It isn't easy to rework an article in that shape and I appreciate your hard work to improve the article. SusunW ( talk) 18:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Caroline continued her education after the war, taking literature and art classes. Her pursuit of literature lead her to establish a literary club in the community to discuss the subject, while her pursuit of art became such that she began featuring her work in art exhibitions.[2] She also took a position on the board of lady managers of the Garfield Hospital.next and then move his continuing in politics to a new ¶. Note, she was “led” not “lead”.
a literary clubperhaps “the Impromptu Club, to read and discuss literature” (Hendricks p 188)( Schneider p. 150)
Benjamin continued to pursue politics after the war, and he would regularly consult Caroline for her opinions on political matters.I see that Schneider p. 150 talks about him going into politics, but not that she became an advisor to him. Watson p 154 confirms that, so you need to add a citation.
More to come. SusunW ( talk) 21:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Both her daughter and her daughter-in-law helped with the responsibilities of the first lady.is supported by Scofield, but it is in Schneider p.151. Correct citation.
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 13:33, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
continual need of refurnishingcited to Scherber, I think you need to add that she inventoried the contents of each room in the White House, cataloging art, decorations, and furnishings and recording their provenance for posterity.(Henderson p 190)(Schneider p 151) That seems like a massive undertaking and important to the history of the country and her tenure in the White House.
It is believed that she died as a result of an illness, such as typhoid fever or influenza, affecting her while she suffered from tuberculosis.Hendricks p 192, says death was "attributed to tuberculosis" and complications of "typhoid and/or influenza", not the other way around.
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 14:20, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
This section GTG. SusunW ( talk) 14:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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That's it from me. Very much enjoyed learning about her and I applaud your efforts to improve the article. Please ping me when you are ready for me to review the answers, as I tend to get really busy.
SusunW (
talk)
19:15, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk)
18:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Thebiguglyalien ( talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke ( talk) at 21:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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QPQ: Done. |
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Valereee (
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13:22, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Onegreatjoke, also pinging GA reviewer SusunW, who may have some idea of whether we might be able to create a stub for "milk set"? I'm on the road right now but would probably be able to do some research between Nov3-7, when I'll be in one place for several days. Valereee ( talk) 13:46, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
with piped link in ALT0, ALT1 also approved.
Valereee (
talk)
16:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
I was asked to look over this article prior to FAC, so here are some comments. I will copy-edit as I go in the interests of efficiency, but please feel to question any changes I make, I am happy to discuss them. Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Having read through the article in its entirety, I believe it is in good shape, but not quite at an FAC standard. There's a source that appears underutilized; some gaps in the information, which I've mentioned above; and some places where the prose could be tightened. I've done some copy-editing, but another round may be needed after any expansions are done. Regards, Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)