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The article on telomerase dates the discovery of this enzyme to 1985, with a reference (vs 1984 in this article about Carol W. Greider). -- Myrabella ( talk) 08:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Proposal: another new section about Greider's continuing telomere research.
I also think her openness about her dyslexia is commendable and inspiring and should be in the article. MiRroar ( talk) 14:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
How come there is nothing about the nobel prize in the body? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:28, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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I added some information about Greider's dyslexia and the impact it has had on her research. I also went a little bit further into the discovery process she went through to confirm findings with Elizabeth Blackburn. Naomiroll ( talk) 20:39, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
User @ Kafkabot83: added this section which details an allegation from Bret Weinstein to his brother Eric Weinstein on Eric's podcast that Bret's work was suppressed and subsequently plagiarized by Greider. I have no idea nor opinion as to whether this is factually correct, but wanted input as to its inclusion within Greider's article as it currently exists. This is certainly not my field of expertise, hence the request for comments, but I feel this may go against WP:BLPSPS and WP:BLPGOSSIP and likely should be removed unless other reputable sources are found. GauchoDude ( talk) 17:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
User @ GauchoDude:: likewise, this is not my area of expertise nor was it my intention to violate any rules (though I am not yet convinced I have). Any more clarity would be appreciated, as I see that the section has now been deleted. I would especially like clarity on the following point: if a local news source had interviewed Bret on his perception of the scandal, then it would be valid to include on this page, correct? What if Bret had been interviewed on Joe Rogan's podcast (or another large podcast)—would that be acceptable? If so, I am not sure why the fact that this podcast was hosted by Bret's brother is immediately disqualifying. Listening to the podcast, one hears that they are concerned with the truth, very complimentary to Ms. Greider, and are simply seeking to advocate a perspective that they believe has been institutionally suppressed. I would regret if Wikipedia were to become unintentionally complicit in this suppression on anything but the most rigorous grounds. (apologies if I have not formatted this response correctly) Kafkabot83 ( talk)
"Ultimately, again in my opinion, I think it's more important to get the article correct and I'm also concerned at the moment with WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLPREMOVE. Removing the (quite important) factor of whether this is the truth or not from the equation, at surface level this is a guy who was directly impacted by a potential event talking to his brother using a self-published medium. I think to make a claim as substantial of "Greider stole my ideas and systematically held me down" requires a much higher level of sourcing."
"potential event talking to his brother using a self-published medium." Not his self published medium, though. Also on the substance of the allegation, there's a misunderstanding. Bret has been very clear about wanting the content to be out in the open be it from her feather, so he could quote her, but she allegedly refused to publish so she could instead build a record of making correct predictions with the theory as an unspoken basis. Bret's work has been published for over a decade albeit not where he initially wanted it published and at a later date ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11909679 ). What's alleged is the extent to which Carol Greider knew about the selective breeding that's going on with lab rats and that this might influence telomere length positively, cancer resistance negatively and toxin resistance positively, with her choosing to remain not just silent on the issue but also hostile on a peer-review level. It'd be useful to get a higher level source, like people who were involved in the peer review process beyond her, however as long as these people do not step forward one way or another we should be ambivalent about the situation and honor the criticism between two peers by presenting it in an ambivalent manner on the wiki article, considering the gain for the public far exceeds any personal gain that could be had. These are serious allegations not so much towards her but towards the process that rewards a publish or perish mindset. RaoulTheWok ( talk) 17:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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Carol W. Greider (born April 15, 1961) is an American molecular biologist. She completed her PhD in 1987 at the University of California, Berkeley, under Elizabeth Blackburn. Their research focused on telomeres, with which the ends of chromosomes are tipped, and they discovered the enzyme telomerase which replenishes the tips and determines the life span of the cell. For these discoveries, she shared the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with Blackburn and Jack W. Szostak. Photograph credit: Keith Weller; edited by Adam Cuerden
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The article on telomerase dates the discovery of this enzyme to 1985, with a reference (vs 1984 in this article about Carol W. Greider). -- Myrabella ( talk) 08:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Proposal: another new section about Greider's continuing telomere research.
I also think her openness about her dyslexia is commendable and inspiring and should be in the article. MiRroar ( talk) 14:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
How come there is nothing about the nobel prize in the body? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:28, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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I added some information about Greider's dyslexia and the impact it has had on her research. I also went a little bit further into the discovery process she went through to confirm findings with Elizabeth Blackburn. Naomiroll ( talk) 20:39, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
User @ Kafkabot83: added this section which details an allegation from Bret Weinstein to his brother Eric Weinstein on Eric's podcast that Bret's work was suppressed and subsequently plagiarized by Greider. I have no idea nor opinion as to whether this is factually correct, but wanted input as to its inclusion within Greider's article as it currently exists. This is certainly not my field of expertise, hence the request for comments, but I feel this may go against WP:BLPSPS and WP:BLPGOSSIP and likely should be removed unless other reputable sources are found. GauchoDude ( talk) 17:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
User @ GauchoDude:: likewise, this is not my area of expertise nor was it my intention to violate any rules (though I am not yet convinced I have). Any more clarity would be appreciated, as I see that the section has now been deleted. I would especially like clarity on the following point: if a local news source had interviewed Bret on his perception of the scandal, then it would be valid to include on this page, correct? What if Bret had been interviewed on Joe Rogan's podcast (or another large podcast)—would that be acceptable? If so, I am not sure why the fact that this podcast was hosted by Bret's brother is immediately disqualifying. Listening to the podcast, one hears that they are concerned with the truth, very complimentary to Ms. Greider, and are simply seeking to advocate a perspective that they believe has been institutionally suppressed. I would regret if Wikipedia were to become unintentionally complicit in this suppression on anything but the most rigorous grounds. (apologies if I have not formatted this response correctly) Kafkabot83 ( talk)
"Ultimately, again in my opinion, I think it's more important to get the article correct and I'm also concerned at the moment with WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLPREMOVE. Removing the (quite important) factor of whether this is the truth or not from the equation, at surface level this is a guy who was directly impacted by a potential event talking to his brother using a self-published medium. I think to make a claim as substantial of "Greider stole my ideas and systematically held me down" requires a much higher level of sourcing."
"potential event talking to his brother using a self-published medium." Not his self published medium, though. Also on the substance of the allegation, there's a misunderstanding. Bret has been very clear about wanting the content to be out in the open be it from her feather, so he could quote her, but she allegedly refused to publish so she could instead build a record of making correct predictions with the theory as an unspoken basis. Bret's work has been published for over a decade albeit not where he initially wanted it published and at a later date ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11909679 ). What's alleged is the extent to which Carol Greider knew about the selective breeding that's going on with lab rats and that this might influence telomere length positively, cancer resistance negatively and toxin resistance positively, with her choosing to remain not just silent on the issue but also hostile on a peer-review level. It'd be useful to get a higher level source, like people who were involved in the peer review process beyond her, however as long as these people do not step forward one way or another we should be ambivalent about the situation and honor the criticism between two peers by presenting it in an ambivalent manner on the wiki article, considering the gain for the public far exceeds any personal gain that could be had. These are serious allegations not so much towards her but towards the process that rewards a publish or perish mindset. RaoulTheWok ( talk) 17:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Wikipedians, I am trying to fill in some historical information and have added to the list of awards and honors. I added references to the vast majority but have not added any links to the awards/associations yet. Please let me know if you see any errors; I did check all the reference links prior to adding them. Mastrong ( talk) 19:41, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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Carol W. Greider (born April 15, 1961) is an American molecular biologist. She completed her PhD in 1987 at the University of California, Berkeley, under Elizabeth Blackburn. Their research focused on telomeres, with which the ends of chromosomes are tipped, and they discovered the enzyme telomerase which replenishes the tips and determines the life span of the cell. For these discoveries, she shared the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with Blackburn and Jack W. Szostak. Photograph credit: Keith Weller; edited by Adam Cuerden
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