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I'm aware this issue has been discussed before. If reliable sources to justify the allegations against Ms Kaye are not provided, I will remove the section per policy at WP:BLP. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
So.... "facts" are not up for discussion? Wikipedia is more about sources than facts. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 16:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is the Don Bagley credit given prominence? The ref to Rhinestone Cowboy makes no sense to me
On Carol Kaye site http://www.carolkaye.com/www/library/faq.htm FAQ 10 I never forgot what a thrill it was to cut "Wichita Lineman" for Glen. And yes, he borrowed my Dano 6-stg. bass guitar to play his famous solo on (also for Galveston).
Here is a clip of Carol Kaye showing her intro to Wichita Lineman http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p013nf55
On Carol Kaye site on the bongos credit FAQ 30 is the (note: Am listed as bongos player on a great deal of the Ray Charles hit records contracts!) Carol Kaye says http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 and lists her playing on the song as in her top 10 http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 the wiki page Wichita Lineman has Carol Kaye as bass guitar
I will clip from article insert it here and edit Davdevalle ( talk) 14:33, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Would some of the discussion here even be the slightest relevant if she had been a man? But she is a woman, and a woman does not contribute to rock music. is that what some of you think?! This woman has done more to the music inustry than a bunch of notorious guys. That´s for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.194.191.191 ( talk) 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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I have removed Elvis from the list because according to Jorgensen, Elvis Presley: A Life in Music, The Complete Recording Sessions, forward by Peter Guralnick, St. Martin’s Press, New York, 1998, the only session she was booked in for Elvis was Aug 22, 1967 and it was cancelled, and she still got paid a 3 hour minimum. If there are others please let us know. Carptrash ( talk) 18:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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Carol has claimed for decades that she's playing on the Beach Boys version of this, also claiming Billy Strange was at the session too. The AFM contract lists only The Beach Boys, and David Marks confirms there was no woman at the recording session. My guess was that she played on a cover version, thinking it was the BB recording, and the earliest such cover I could find was by The Hot Doggers, released in spring 1963. This group was actually a bunch of studio musicians assembled by Terry Melcher & Bruce Johnston. Taken me a few years but very recently I got hold of the AFM contracts for the album, and guess what? There's Carol Kaye & Billy Strange on guitars at the March 12th session (eight days after the BB single was released). That's that sorted, then. Andrew G. Doe ( talk) 12:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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I'm aware this issue has been discussed before. If reliable sources to justify the allegations against Ms Kaye are not provided, I will remove the section per policy at WP:BLP. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
So.... "facts" are not up for discussion? Wikipedia is more about sources than facts. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 16:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is the Don Bagley credit given prominence? The ref to Rhinestone Cowboy makes no sense to me
On Carol Kaye site http://www.carolkaye.com/www/library/faq.htm FAQ 10 I never forgot what a thrill it was to cut "Wichita Lineman" for Glen. And yes, he borrowed my Dano 6-stg. bass guitar to play his famous solo on (also for Galveston).
Here is a clip of Carol Kaye showing her intro to Wichita Lineman http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p013nf55
On Carol Kaye site on the bongos credit FAQ 30 is the (note: Am listed as bongos player on a great deal of the Ray Charles hit records contracts!) Carol Kaye says http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 and lists her playing on the song as in her top 10 http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956/7 the wiki page Wichita Lineman has Carol Kaye as bass guitar
I will clip from article insert it here and edit Davdevalle ( talk) 14:33, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Would some of the discussion here even be the slightest relevant if she had been a man? But she is a woman, and a woman does not contribute to rock music. is that what some of you think?! This woman has done more to the music inustry than a bunch of notorious guys. That´s for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.194.191.191 ( talk) 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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I have removed Elvis from the list because according to Jorgensen, Elvis Presley: A Life in Music, The Complete Recording Sessions, forward by Peter Guralnick, St. Martin’s Press, New York, 1998, the only session she was booked in for Elvis was Aug 22, 1967 and it was cancelled, and she still got paid a 3 hour minimum. If there are others please let us know. Carptrash ( talk) 18:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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Carol has claimed for decades that she's playing on the Beach Boys version of this, also claiming Billy Strange was at the session too. The AFM contract lists only The Beach Boys, and David Marks confirms there was no woman at the recording session. My guess was that she played on a cover version, thinking it was the BB recording, and the earliest such cover I could find was by The Hot Doggers, released in spring 1963. This group was actually a bunch of studio musicians assembled by Terry Melcher & Bruce Johnston. Taken me a few years but very recently I got hold of the AFM contracts for the album, and guess what? There's Carol Kaye & Billy Strange on guitars at the March 12th session (eight days after the BB single was released). That's that sorted, then. Andrew G. Doe ( talk) 12:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)