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Which map? This map:
http://mapsforus.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1941world.jpg
I'd love to get a bit of history behind this map made by the Endowment for International Peace in 1941. Does anyone know anything about it? Unfortunately i found it on a joke website, but i think it's legit. If anyone has a higher res version so I can at least read the fine print.
Arthurian Legend 19:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Nearly everything in this article has been lifted directly from Carnegie's website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This URL does not seem to contain anything specifically mentioning either Hanes or J Matthews. i substituted a URL which does say something along these lines. Also, i replaced "spring" by "early": wikipedia is not a northern temperate zone encyclopedia, it's global. Boud ( talk) 01:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The entry previously removed violates both NPOV (neutral point of view) and BLP (biographies of living persons) policies in multiple instances. In fact, Jessica Mathews has not become a source of controversy for the Carnegie Endowment. The statement is conjecture - the anonymous authors of this entry cannot speak on behalf of the Endowment without being identified as such. The language is therefore patently misleading with the malicious intent to spread controversy and should be removed.
The claims of rights' violations are outdated and present only one side of a dispute that is in the process of being settled by the two parties concerned: Hanesbrands Inc. and The Workers Rights Consortium of Hanesbrands Dos Rios Textiles. The facts are that the claims have been investigated by an independent investigator as well as by Hanesbrands Inc. A summary of the findings of those investigations can be read at http://www.hanesbrands.com/NR/rdonlyres/FF1D2B9D-6068-46A6-A9BE-410D51580D46/32/HBIResponsetoWRCDosRiosAssessmentandIndependentInv.pdf
Both investigations found the significant majority, but not all, of the allegations to be false. Several managerial issues related to overtime pay practices, employee contract language and improved corporate management oversight regarding certain local decisions were discovered and addressed. Hanesbrands has already made changes in these areas and has communicated them to employees, including new overtime policies and the retroactive payment of overtime, above the legal requirement, to all current and former employees. Hanesbrands is currently awaiting their reply to a full proposed contract.
As the BLP policy states, the burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia, but especially for edits about living persons, rests firmly on the shoulders of the person who adds or restores the material. The authors that initially added incorrect and incompletely sourced language failed to satisfy this burden. The editor that restored the language on the basis of subjective claims assumed the language as current and factual without any attempt to determine whether any claims are in fact true or current, also failing to satisfy this burden. Both actions create significant doubts about the legitimacy of the entire entry as a trusted source of factual material and degrades the value of Wikipedia. As also stated in the BLP policy: when in doubt, biographies should be pared back to a version that is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic. Removing the language will restore the entry to this editorial benchmark and fulfill the BLP policy. If and until this language can be factually stated from reliable sources, it should not appear in the entry at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.99.100 ( talk) 21:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
On 28th October 2008, User:Bkh2107 introduced a chunk of material taken from the Institute website at Endowment History - see [1] . I will try to remove this now. Crosbiesmith ( talk) 06:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Should be called 'Carnegie Endowment for International War". --- Dagme ( talk) 16:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Is CEIP so uncontroversial that there is no warrant for a criticism section? I doubt it. I think that some of the concerns raised by other posters in this talk section can be given form and substance. My experience with CEIP people as an academic was NOT positive. They tended to view colleagues in academia as a source of inconvenient arguments and facts, and appear to be driven by a definite agenda. CEIP, like NED, the USIP and other DC area outfits is a government captured NGO. It is effectively a branch of the US Department of State. I will not be commenting beyond this, because I have come to experience wikipedian intolerance of arguments and edits, and I will not write the criticism section myself either. I invite friends of CEIP to write the criticism section themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.137.35.130 ( talk) 12:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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Which map? This map:
http://mapsforus.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1941world.jpg
I'd love to get a bit of history behind this map made by the Endowment for International Peace in 1941. Does anyone know anything about it? Unfortunately i found it on a joke website, but i think it's legit. If anyone has a higher res version so I can at least read the fine print.
Arthurian Legend 19:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Nearly everything in this article has been lifted directly from Carnegie's website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This URL does not seem to contain anything specifically mentioning either Hanes or J Matthews. i substituted a URL which does say something along these lines. Also, i replaced "spring" by "early": wikipedia is not a northern temperate zone encyclopedia, it's global. Boud ( talk) 01:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The entry previously removed violates both NPOV (neutral point of view) and BLP (biographies of living persons) policies in multiple instances. In fact, Jessica Mathews has not become a source of controversy for the Carnegie Endowment. The statement is conjecture - the anonymous authors of this entry cannot speak on behalf of the Endowment without being identified as such. The language is therefore patently misleading with the malicious intent to spread controversy and should be removed.
The claims of rights' violations are outdated and present only one side of a dispute that is in the process of being settled by the two parties concerned: Hanesbrands Inc. and The Workers Rights Consortium of Hanesbrands Dos Rios Textiles. The facts are that the claims have been investigated by an independent investigator as well as by Hanesbrands Inc. A summary of the findings of those investigations can be read at http://www.hanesbrands.com/NR/rdonlyres/FF1D2B9D-6068-46A6-A9BE-410D51580D46/32/HBIResponsetoWRCDosRiosAssessmentandIndependentInv.pdf
Both investigations found the significant majority, but not all, of the allegations to be false. Several managerial issues related to overtime pay practices, employee contract language and improved corporate management oversight regarding certain local decisions were discovered and addressed. Hanesbrands has already made changes in these areas and has communicated them to employees, including new overtime policies and the retroactive payment of overtime, above the legal requirement, to all current and former employees. Hanesbrands is currently awaiting their reply to a full proposed contract.
As the BLP policy states, the burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia, but especially for edits about living persons, rests firmly on the shoulders of the person who adds or restores the material. The authors that initially added incorrect and incompletely sourced language failed to satisfy this burden. The editor that restored the language on the basis of subjective claims assumed the language as current and factual without any attempt to determine whether any claims are in fact true or current, also failing to satisfy this burden. Both actions create significant doubts about the legitimacy of the entire entry as a trusted source of factual material and degrades the value of Wikipedia. As also stated in the BLP policy: when in doubt, biographies should be pared back to a version that is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic. Removing the language will restore the entry to this editorial benchmark and fulfill the BLP policy. If and until this language can be factually stated from reliable sources, it should not appear in the entry at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.99.100 ( talk) 21:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
On 28th October 2008, User:Bkh2107 introduced a chunk of material taken from the Institute website at Endowment History - see [1] . I will try to remove this now. Crosbiesmith ( talk) 06:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Should be called 'Carnegie Endowment for International War". --- Dagme ( talk) 16:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Is CEIP so uncontroversial that there is no warrant for a criticism section? I doubt it. I think that some of the concerns raised by other posters in this talk section can be given form and substance. My experience with CEIP people as an academic was NOT positive. They tended to view colleagues in academia as a source of inconvenient arguments and facts, and appear to be driven by a definite agenda. CEIP, like NED, the USIP and other DC area outfits is a government captured NGO. It is effectively a branch of the US Department of State. I will not be commenting beyond this, because I have come to experience wikipedian intolerance of arguments and edits, and I will not write the criticism section myself either. I invite friends of CEIP to write the criticism section themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.137.35.130 ( talk) 12:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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