The entry to `Operation Entebbe' seems to indicate Carlos was involved, but this page says he was not involved.
buju grason from uganda says he was more than a man n he should be supported coz these are the men who will put this world to the top list--0712311447 c u. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.2.131 ( talk) 09:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I have changed the template added on 2nd April '05 without a comment as it seems relatively good for NPOV but there are the above factual disputes L-Bit 09:01, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It seems to me that the above critiques are groundless. Anyone who reads this or the 'Operation Entebbe' page and can't tell that Carlos was not involved, is an idiot and should not be using a computer. Both pages are quite clear.
- As there doesn't appear to be anyone now even claiming Carlos' involvement in Entebbe or Munich, I've rewritten to make it clear that he wasn't involved, and removed the disputed tag. David | Talk 4 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)
- Yeah, I followed the article's history and agree with your actions.
Should the article say former terrorist? That doesn't sound encyclopediac. It also implies he's given it up, which I think is a suspicious claim to make, considering he's in prison. Was Tookie a murderer or a former murderer?
if I remember it right, yallop found out this is just another misinformation about the myth "Carlos".
- Harvey Kushner, Encyclopedia of Terrorism, pg 321. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 21:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Why is he listed as a convert to Islam when it doesnt say anything in the article? Tec15 17:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC))
- Because he converted to Islam. Wikipedia is extremely bad on religious issues or mentioning the religious histories of people. Because of that it failing to mention his conversion doesn't mean much. If you need sources on his conversion see the following links.
- BBC on "Carlos" praising Osama
- The Age on his marriage, mentions his conversion
- Sunday Times of South Africa
I think he's also a former Catholic, in that his mother baptized him and sent him to Mass, but I couldn't find enough support for that.-- T. Anthony 09:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Additional & more indepth information can be found in a 20 page artile at:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists/carlos/text/
Why is this noted on this page? The movie was based on a character in the book (as per the note on this page), not the subject of this page, Carlos. So what's the relevance? Sans objection, in three days I will remove this note from this page. (It is already noted on the appropriate page about the book.) -- BakerQ 15:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I've moving the page to reflect the more widespread name used to refer to this man, Carlos the Jackal. -- Irishpunktom\ talk 15:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- If a move is done, should it point to "Carlos the Jackal" instead of "Carlos the jackal" (lowercase 'j')?
- Secondly, I feel that the name of the page should remain his own first name, with a redirect from "Carlos the J(j)ackal" pages. (Unsigned comment by
User:Bakerq)
- I think the article should be named "Carlos the Jackal", not "Carlos the jackal". The upper case "J" is pretty well universal, including throughout this very article. Probably this is just a typo, but I'll wait for a day or two in case anyone objects. If nobody does object, I will move it to
Carlos the Jackal.--
A bit iffy
- Agreed & moved, but need help fixing double redirects. ← Humus sapiens ну? 07:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's a proper name either way you look at it so of course it would be capitalized. It's like not capitalizing the name "God" because you don't like Christianity. Who cares? You're still referring to a specific name.
- I think the article should be named "Carlos the Jackal", not "Carlos the jackal". The upper case "J" is pretty well universal, including throughout this very article. Probably this is just a typo, but I'll wait for a day or two in case anyone objects. If nobody does object, I will move it to
Carlos the Jackal.--
A bit iffy
Carlos the Jackal has *nothing* whatsoever to do woth any of Robert Ludlum's "Bourne" books so i took it out. 211.31.12.195 08:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
The entry to `Operation Entebbe' seems to indicate Carlos was involved, but this page says he was not involved.
buju grason from uganda says he was more than a man n he should be supported coz these are the men who will put this world to the top list--0712311447 c u. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.2.131 ( talk) 09:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I have changed the template added on 2nd April '05 without a comment as it seems relatively good for NPOV but there are the above factual disputes L-Bit 09:01, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It seems to me that the above critiques are groundless. Anyone who reads this or the 'Operation Entebbe' page and can't tell that Carlos was not involved, is an idiot and should not be using a computer. Both pages are quite clear.
- As there doesn't appear to be anyone now even claiming Carlos' involvement in Entebbe or Munich, I've rewritten to make it clear that he wasn't involved, and removed the disputed tag. David | Talk 4 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)
- Yeah, I followed the article's history and agree with your actions.
Should the article say former terrorist? That doesn't sound encyclopediac. It also implies he's given it up, which I think is a suspicious claim to make, considering he's in prison. Was Tookie a murderer or a former murderer?
if I remember it right, yallop found out this is just another misinformation about the myth "Carlos".
- Harvey Kushner, Encyclopedia of Terrorism, pg 321. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 21:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Why is he listed as a convert to Islam when it doesnt say anything in the article? Tec15 17:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC))
- Because he converted to Islam. Wikipedia is extremely bad on religious issues or mentioning the religious histories of people. Because of that it failing to mention his conversion doesn't mean much. If you need sources on his conversion see the following links.
- BBC on "Carlos" praising Osama
- The Age on his marriage, mentions his conversion
- Sunday Times of South Africa
I think he's also a former Catholic, in that his mother baptized him and sent him to Mass, but I couldn't find enough support for that.-- T. Anthony 09:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Additional & more indepth information can be found in a 20 page artile at:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists/carlos/text/
Why is this noted on this page? The movie was based on a character in the book (as per the note on this page), not the subject of this page, Carlos. So what's the relevance? Sans objection, in three days I will remove this note from this page. (It is already noted on the appropriate page about the book.) -- BakerQ 15:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I've moving the page to reflect the more widespread name used to refer to this man, Carlos the Jackal. -- Irishpunktom\ talk 15:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- If a move is done, should it point to "Carlos the Jackal" instead of "Carlos the jackal" (lowercase 'j')?
- Secondly, I feel that the name of the page should remain his own first name, with a redirect from "Carlos the J(j)ackal" pages. (Unsigned comment by
User:Bakerq)
- I think the article should be named "Carlos the Jackal", not "Carlos the jackal". The upper case "J" is pretty well universal, including throughout this very article. Probably this is just a typo, but I'll wait for a day or two in case anyone objects. If nobody does object, I will move it to
Carlos the Jackal.--
A bit iffy
- Agreed & moved, but need help fixing double redirects. ← Humus sapiens ну? 07:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's a proper name either way you look at it so of course it would be capitalized. It's like not capitalizing the name "God" because you don't like Christianity. Who cares? You're still referring to a specific name.
- I think the article should be named "Carlos the Jackal", not "Carlos the jackal". The upper case "J" is pretty well universal, including throughout this very article. Probably this is just a typo, but I'll wait for a day or two in case anyone objects. If nobody does object, I will move it to
Carlos the Jackal.--
A bit iffy
Carlos the Jackal has *nothing* whatsoever to do woth any of Robert Ludlum's "Bourne" books so i took it out. 211.31.12.195 08:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)