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Reviewer: Frzzl ( talk · contribs) 12:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Hey Arawoke! I did say that I'd give some feedback on the article, so I guess this kind of fulfils that?
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It'll take me a bit to work through all of this, so I'll do 1a below later. Regarding 1b - the article is almost entirely fine, but I think it could do with a run through to remove our words to watch - I noticed a fair few examples of words like "claim" or "reportedly" being used where they shouldn't be etc. I'm going to do a minor copy edit on the article to fix minor punctuation grammar &c, so I'll remove the entirely superfluous ones, and I'll point out any you've missed after you've gone over it.
Some general observations:
The response towards the Piro inquiry regarding who had initially started the fighting on the Purus River, the answer is disputed between "Scharff or Cardoso da Rosa to 'the Peruvians' or 'the Brazilians,'- I'm honestly not sure what you mean. Can you rewrite it? Also, what's the Piro inquiry? Why the quotation marks?
In response to perceived Peruvian aggression in the Purus and Yurua area, five hundred Brazilian soldiers were sent to the region. The Brazilian government also decided to restrict access to steamships heading towards Loreto and Iquitos. According to Hecht, Brazil had "closed the upper Amazon to trade, especially munitions destined for Peru," and two steamships that were filled with ammunition and weapons were seized by Brazilian authorities around that time. There was a guerrilla war waged throughout the region, which brought about the destruction of rubber stations, outposts that collect firewood, and domiciles in the area. The conflict also instigated crimes within the area such as rape, torture and murder against the inhabitants of the opposing side's rubber stations.is a bit tangential to the information specifically about Scharff, I would remove it and combine the next paragraph. Perhaps add a single phrase to sum up the conflict as guerilla warfare, but I think that that this paragraph for simple context is excessive.
A 1904 census found that there was a population of 10,852 inhabitants distributed throughout 150 rubber barracas along the upper Purus. The year before, there was an estimate of around one thousand caucheros along the Curanja River. At the time of the census, there were four hundred Peruvians documented as working in the region.Most of these Peruvians were spread throughout the area in small outposts.feels a bit off, since the comparisons don't seem equal. Which area is "the area" - the upper Purus or the Curanja? Same applies to "the region". Can you rephrase it so that we're comparing Purus-Purus, or Curanja-Curanja, or something else that is consistent.
Refs are well formatted, I tend to do spotchecks last. One thing that stuck out to me is that several of the explanatory notes aren't referenced; they need to be.
All the images are relevant to the article, but they don't all have the correct licensing tags. To me, it looks like they should all be public domain (too early to be CC haha) - can you add the tags, and perhaps the lifespans of the photographers for the non anonymous ones? Also, I saw that you've got a peer review open, so this isn't needed for GA, but if you're looking to get the article to FA, then you should add alt-text to all the images.
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Hey Arawoke! I did say that I'd give some feedback on the article, so I guess this kind of fulfils that?
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12:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
It'll take me a bit to work through all of this, so I'll do 1a below later. Regarding 1b - the article is almost entirely fine, but I think it could do with a run through to remove our words to watch - I noticed a fair few examples of words like "claim" or "reportedly" being used where they shouldn't be etc. I'm going to do a minor copy edit on the article to fix minor punctuation grammar &c, so I'll remove the entirely superfluous ones, and I'll point out any you've missed after you've gone over it.
Some general observations:
The response towards the Piro inquiry regarding who had initially started the fighting on the Purus River, the answer is disputed between "Scharff or Cardoso da Rosa to 'the Peruvians' or 'the Brazilians,'- I'm honestly not sure what you mean. Can you rewrite it? Also, what's the Piro inquiry? Why the quotation marks?
In response to perceived Peruvian aggression in the Purus and Yurua area, five hundred Brazilian soldiers were sent to the region. The Brazilian government also decided to restrict access to steamships heading towards Loreto and Iquitos. According to Hecht, Brazil had "closed the upper Amazon to trade, especially munitions destined for Peru," and two steamships that were filled with ammunition and weapons were seized by Brazilian authorities around that time. There was a guerrilla war waged throughout the region, which brought about the destruction of rubber stations, outposts that collect firewood, and domiciles in the area. The conflict also instigated crimes within the area such as rape, torture and murder against the inhabitants of the opposing side's rubber stations.is a bit tangential to the information specifically about Scharff, I would remove it and combine the next paragraph. Perhaps add a single phrase to sum up the conflict as guerilla warfare, but I think that that this paragraph for simple context is excessive.
A 1904 census found that there was a population of 10,852 inhabitants distributed throughout 150 rubber barracas along the upper Purus. The year before, there was an estimate of around one thousand caucheros along the Curanja River. At the time of the census, there were four hundred Peruvians documented as working in the region.Most of these Peruvians were spread throughout the area in small outposts.feels a bit off, since the comparisons don't seem equal. Which area is "the area" - the upper Purus or the Curanja? Same applies to "the region". Can you rephrase it so that we're comparing Purus-Purus, or Curanja-Curanja, or something else that is consistent.
Refs are well formatted, I tend to do spotchecks last. One thing that stuck out to me is that several of the explanatory notes aren't referenced; they need to be.
All the images are relevant to the article, but they don't all have the correct licensing tags. To me, it looks like they should all be public domain (too early to be CC haha) - can you add the tags, and perhaps the lifespans of the photographers for the non anonymous ones? Also, I saw that you've got a peer review open, so this isn't needed for GA, but if you're looking to get the article to FA, then you should add alt-text to all the images.