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My mother passed recently from cardiogenic shock. I'm just curious to know if cardiogenic shock is severly painfull?
Keep this should anybody want to see what it was.
Nomen Nescio
01:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Cardiogenic shock |
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Cardiogenic shock results from the inability of the heart to pump blood through the body. It is the most serious consequence of myocardial infarction, but can also result from other cardiac emergencies, such as extrinsic compression ( cardiac tamponade), ventricular arrhythmias, or outflow obstruction (e.g., pulmonary embolism). Prognosis of cardiogenic shock is usually poor since it is associated with extensive myocardial infarction (approximately 40% of the heart is dead). Mortality rates may be as high as 75%.
Are cardiogenicc shock and cardiac arrest the same thing, or is it possible to be diagnosed with one condition but not the other? It would be helpful if th article either made clear that the terms are synonomous or explained the distinction. Also, the article uses "cardiigenic shock" for the first few paragraphs, then typically refers to "cardiac arrest." If they're the same thing, maybe the article should use a single term. Thanks, TheronJ 14:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
After including some info from cardiac arrest I do feel that listing all causes of hypixemia (indirect?) could be taken out. It is a bit over the top.
Nomen Nescio
23:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
We seem to have cleared up the confusion between the two terms now on the Cardiac arrest page, but great confusion still seems to exist here. Propose a major re-write to remove this and to clear up the rest of the page; or merge with Shock - the article as it stands is really a mess.-- John24601 09:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
While dated, the shock trial [1] should be mentioned, since it's still the basis for who undergoes revascularization for shock and what medical therapy of shock entails.
I'll keep this article on my radar to work on after myocardial infarction. Ksheka 03:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/149/9/618 - cardiogenic shock is becoming less common. JFW | T@lk 00:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
how to diffentiate between the two symptom wise... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drashishvyas ( talk • contribs) 15:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello Everyone. I'm a UNT Internal Medicine Resident Physician. I will be making edits to this article. I will be adding information and editing existing information to inform and clarify about CS. Please free to comment, ask questions, and add your own edits. Javeria927 ( talk) 18:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 October 2023 and 17 November 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Anesthesiastudent2024 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Anesthesiastudent2024 ( talk) 20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Milepost Date | By the time I go to bed on this date I will have… |
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Mon 10/23
Course Day 1 |
Picked an article that interests me that I will edit throughout the course |
Tues 10/24
Course Day 2 |
Selected my article, “Cardiogenic shock” and have read it a few times over to solidify the content gaps I want to contribute to. I would have also begin looking for secondary sources and reviews and begin creating my bibliography |
Mon 10/30
WP-WIP #1 |
Began wrapping up my bibliography and have found secondary sources and reviews on the treatment and indications for treatment of cardiogenic shock as well as the official staging of cardiogenic shock |
Mon 11/6
WP-WIP #2 |
Finished or almost finished taking notes on my sources and written in my own words the facts that I want to cite. |
Mon 11/13
WP-WIP #3 |
Edited the wiki page to include the different stages of cardiogenic shock within the “diagnosis” section of the page, as well as augmented the “treatment” section to specify the different mechanical support devices available for treatment and when they are indicated |
Fri 11/17
WP-WIP #4 Course Wrap-up |
Completed editing my wiki page and would have met my editing goals with the hopes of giving a coherent and effective final presentation at WIP #4 |
Anesthesiastudent2024 has a fantastic start to editing the draft. The user outlined the changes with the following: deleting dobutamine mention due to redundancy, clean up pharmacotherapy section, and section as well as augment the treatment section.
First and foremost, the three proposed major changes were completed. Regarding the first change, I agree that deleting this helped with the redundancy. This change was made in the sandbox draft I am reviewing and think it reflects things in a better way.
Secondly, the pharmacotherapy section was cleaned up and became much easier to read. More plain language was used and the logic and content was easier to follow.
Thirdly, the breakdown of treatment was nice. The subsections are logical into the following categories: medication, pump, LVAD, and VA-ECMO. I wish I had this source when studying cardiogenic shock!
I personally think the lead paragraphs of cardiogenic shock are a bit all over the place and work could be done there to approach the issue from a physiology point of view. If I was a non-medical viewer, I would think "what the heck is shock." May be helpful to approach the issue very broadly and zero in logically.
With the proposed change above to lead paragraph and the newly drafted changes by anesthesia student on treatment subtypes, there is a clear structure to the page. With that, I believe there is nicely balanced coverage. With cardiogenic shock, treatment is very important and this section has been expounded upon very well. The content is neutral and the sources are reliable.
The most important thing that could be done with the article is to add more citations. Cardiogenic shock has many sources in the literature, and adding more for people to follow along with the augmented treatment sections would drastically improve the article.
I like the flow of the article and will take this style in mind when I continue to edit my own.
Amazing work! Swk152419 ( talk) 21:05, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
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My mother passed recently from cardiogenic shock. I'm just curious to know if cardiogenic shock is severly painfull?
Keep this should anybody want to see what it was.
Nomen Nescio
01:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Cardiogenic shock |
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Cardiogenic shock results from the inability of the heart to pump blood through the body. It is the most serious consequence of myocardial infarction, but can also result from other cardiac emergencies, such as extrinsic compression ( cardiac tamponade), ventricular arrhythmias, or outflow obstruction (e.g., pulmonary embolism). Prognosis of cardiogenic shock is usually poor since it is associated with extensive myocardial infarction (approximately 40% of the heart is dead). Mortality rates may be as high as 75%.
Are cardiogenicc shock and cardiac arrest the same thing, or is it possible to be diagnosed with one condition but not the other? It would be helpful if th article either made clear that the terms are synonomous or explained the distinction. Also, the article uses "cardiigenic shock" for the first few paragraphs, then typically refers to "cardiac arrest." If they're the same thing, maybe the article should use a single term. Thanks, TheronJ 14:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
After including some info from cardiac arrest I do feel that listing all causes of hypixemia (indirect?) could be taken out. It is a bit over the top.
Nomen Nescio
23:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
We seem to have cleared up the confusion between the two terms now on the Cardiac arrest page, but great confusion still seems to exist here. Propose a major re-write to remove this and to clear up the rest of the page; or merge with Shock - the article as it stands is really a mess.-- John24601 09:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
While dated, the shock trial [1] should be mentioned, since it's still the basis for who undergoes revascularization for shock and what medical therapy of shock entails.
I'll keep this article on my radar to work on after myocardial infarction. Ksheka 03:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/149/9/618 - cardiogenic shock is becoming less common. JFW | T@lk 00:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
how to diffentiate between the two symptom wise... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drashishvyas ( talk • contribs) 15:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello Everyone. I'm a UNT Internal Medicine Resident Physician. I will be making edits to this article. I will be adding information and editing existing information to inform and clarify about CS. Please free to comment, ask questions, and add your own edits. Javeria927 ( talk) 18:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 October 2023 and 17 November 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Anesthesiastudent2024 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Anesthesiastudent2024 ( talk) 20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Milepost Date | By the time I go to bed on this date I will have… |
---|---|
Mon 10/23
Course Day 1 |
Picked an article that interests me that I will edit throughout the course |
Tues 10/24
Course Day 2 |
Selected my article, “Cardiogenic shock” and have read it a few times over to solidify the content gaps I want to contribute to. I would have also begin looking for secondary sources and reviews and begin creating my bibliography |
Mon 10/30
WP-WIP #1 |
Began wrapping up my bibliography and have found secondary sources and reviews on the treatment and indications for treatment of cardiogenic shock as well as the official staging of cardiogenic shock |
Mon 11/6
WP-WIP #2 |
Finished or almost finished taking notes on my sources and written in my own words the facts that I want to cite. |
Mon 11/13
WP-WIP #3 |
Edited the wiki page to include the different stages of cardiogenic shock within the “diagnosis” section of the page, as well as augmented the “treatment” section to specify the different mechanical support devices available for treatment and when they are indicated |
Fri 11/17
WP-WIP #4 Course Wrap-up |
Completed editing my wiki page and would have met my editing goals with the hopes of giving a coherent and effective final presentation at WIP #4 |
Anesthesiastudent2024 has a fantastic start to editing the draft. The user outlined the changes with the following: deleting dobutamine mention due to redundancy, clean up pharmacotherapy section, and section as well as augment the treatment section.
First and foremost, the three proposed major changes were completed. Regarding the first change, I agree that deleting this helped with the redundancy. This change was made in the sandbox draft I am reviewing and think it reflects things in a better way.
Secondly, the pharmacotherapy section was cleaned up and became much easier to read. More plain language was used and the logic and content was easier to follow.
Thirdly, the breakdown of treatment was nice. The subsections are logical into the following categories: medication, pump, LVAD, and VA-ECMO. I wish I had this source when studying cardiogenic shock!
I personally think the lead paragraphs of cardiogenic shock are a bit all over the place and work could be done there to approach the issue from a physiology point of view. If I was a non-medical viewer, I would think "what the heck is shock." May be helpful to approach the issue very broadly and zero in logically.
With the proposed change above to lead paragraph and the newly drafted changes by anesthesia student on treatment subtypes, there is a clear structure to the page. With that, I believe there is nicely balanced coverage. With cardiogenic shock, treatment is very important and this section has been expounded upon very well. The content is neutral and the sources are reliable.
The most important thing that could be done with the article is to add more citations. Cardiogenic shock has many sources in the literature, and adding more for people to follow along with the augmented treatment sections would drastically improve the article.
I like the flow of the article and will take this style in mind when I continue to edit my own.
Amazing work! Swk152419 ( talk) 21:05, 14 November 2023 (UTC)