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(Material in 1st paragraph below was corrected regarding cardinals who are under 80 when the papacy becomes vacant but turn 80 before or during the conclave.)
Cardinals who are already 80 when the conclave starts are not entitled to participate. This means that, depending on when the conclave starts, there are some cardinals who will be barred because the become 80 between the official resignation of Benedict XVI on February 28 and the starting point: So this would mean that Lubomyr Cardinal Husar (b. 26 February 1933) and Walter Cardinal Kasper (b. 5 March 1933) are out. So I'll remove them from the list. As Severino Cardinal Poletto was born on 18 March 1933, depending on the exact starting date, he could be out as well but probably makes the cut. Juan Cardinal Sandoval Íñiguez was born on 28 March 1933 so he'll most likely beat the cut off date and be able to participate. -- fdewaele, 13 February 2013.
References
The "80 plus" restriction was instituted in 1971, and the conclaves between then and now were the two in 1978 and the one in 2005. I don't think they had a case where a cardinal was under 80 when the papacy became vacant and then turned 80 before or during the conclave.
The numbers in the table "Location of Cardinal Electors" does not add up correctly. [1]
Listed are 37 countries having 1 elector each (pray Bosnia and Herzegovina are not counted as 2); the electors of the other 13 countries total 79 yielding a total Number of Electors of 116 rather than the 117 given.
Please explain, and/or correct. TMMundy ( talk) 20:36, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
At the risk of nitpicking, how do we describe the location of Sean Brady, Archbishop of Armagh? He is implicitly counted as being in Ireland, with the Archbishop of St. Andrews and Edinburgh as the one United Kingdom cardinal. However his see is in the UK, although to complicate matters further he originally comes from south of the border. Should we divide this by Ireland and Great Britain? Also, is Hong Kong a separate location or do we just count it as part of China? PatGallacher ( talk) 12:30, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
No | Name | Date of Birth | Country | Office | Rank |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
56 | Seán Brady | 16 August 1939 |
Ireland Northern Ireland |
Archbishop of Armagh | Cardinal-Priest |
Alekksandr ( talk) 22:10, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
What does the "No" column mean? — Tamfang ( talk) 08:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Which of these were already electors for the 2005 conclave? 62.226.240.86 ( talk) 23:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I am proposing merging List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave into this page. The list of papabili has been proposed for deletion as speculative. This is fair, but I think there is some value in documenting which cardinals have attracted particular media attention prior to the conclave. So, since al of the cardinal electors are plausible candidates, I think it would make sense to merge these two tables by adding a column to the list of cardinal electors with references to papabili media discussion. — Mgruhn ( talk) 02:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
The circular graph in Cardinal electors for the papal conclave, 2013#Number of cardinal electors by country (seen in old version) is very difficult to read with the shades of red coloring. I was WP:BOLD and replaced it with one from Papal_conclave,_2013#Papal_election_process which uses not only different colors but geographic shapes, making it easier to interpret. — MrDolomite • Talk 01:21, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
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I support this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Cardinal Walter Kasper was already 80-years old when the cardinals entered the Sistine Chapel for the conclave, on March 12. He was born on March 5, 1933. He was able to participate because, as we know, the Apostolic Constitution "Universi Dominici Gregis" provides that those under 80 years of age "on the day the vacancy of the Apostolic See begins", that is, the day when the Pope dies or resign, are cardinals electors. Benedict XVI resigned on February 28, 2013, BEFORE Kasper's 80th birthday.I think it would be useful to mention in the voter table that Kasper was already 80 years old (age 80, in parentheses), but include a footnote with this explanation. 2804:D84:2280:2400:6F91:F3D:19FB:6CA0 ( talk) 03:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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(Material in 1st paragraph below was corrected regarding cardinals who are under 80 when the papacy becomes vacant but turn 80 before or during the conclave.)
Cardinals who are already 80 when the conclave starts are not entitled to participate. This means that, depending on when the conclave starts, there are some cardinals who will be barred because the become 80 between the official resignation of Benedict XVI on February 28 and the starting point: So this would mean that Lubomyr Cardinal Husar (b. 26 February 1933) and Walter Cardinal Kasper (b. 5 March 1933) are out. So I'll remove them from the list. As Severino Cardinal Poletto was born on 18 March 1933, depending on the exact starting date, he could be out as well but probably makes the cut. Juan Cardinal Sandoval Íñiguez was born on 28 March 1933 so he'll most likely beat the cut off date and be able to participate. -- fdewaele, 13 February 2013.
References
The "80 plus" restriction was instituted in 1971, and the conclaves between then and now were the two in 1978 and the one in 2005. I don't think they had a case where a cardinal was under 80 when the papacy became vacant and then turned 80 before or during the conclave.
The numbers in the table "Location of Cardinal Electors" does not add up correctly. [1]
Listed are 37 countries having 1 elector each (pray Bosnia and Herzegovina are not counted as 2); the electors of the other 13 countries total 79 yielding a total Number of Electors of 116 rather than the 117 given.
Please explain, and/or correct. TMMundy ( talk) 20:36, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
At the risk of nitpicking, how do we describe the location of Sean Brady, Archbishop of Armagh? He is implicitly counted as being in Ireland, with the Archbishop of St. Andrews and Edinburgh as the one United Kingdom cardinal. However his see is in the UK, although to complicate matters further he originally comes from south of the border. Should we divide this by Ireland and Great Britain? Also, is Hong Kong a separate location or do we just count it as part of China? PatGallacher ( talk) 12:30, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
No | Name | Date of Birth | Country | Office | Rank |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
56 | Seán Brady | 16 August 1939 |
Ireland Northern Ireland |
Archbishop of Armagh | Cardinal-Priest |
Alekksandr ( talk) 22:10, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
What does the "No" column mean? — Tamfang ( talk) 08:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Which of these were already electors for the 2005 conclave? 62.226.240.86 ( talk) 23:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I am proposing merging List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave into this page. The list of papabili has been proposed for deletion as speculative. This is fair, but I think there is some value in documenting which cardinals have attracted particular media attention prior to the conclave. So, since al of the cardinal electors are plausible candidates, I think it would make sense to merge these two tables by adding a column to the list of cardinal electors with references to papabili media discussion. — Mgruhn ( talk) 02:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
The circular graph in Cardinal electors for the papal conclave, 2013#Number of cardinal electors by country (seen in old version) is very difficult to read with the shades of red coloring. I was WP:BOLD and replaced it with one from Papal_conclave,_2013#Papal_election_process which uses not only different colors but geographic shapes, making it easier to interpret. — MrDolomite • Talk 01:21, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
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I support this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Cardinal Walter Kasper was already 80-years old when the cardinals entered the Sistine Chapel for the conclave, on March 12. He was born on March 5, 1933. He was able to participate because, as we know, the Apostolic Constitution "Universi Dominici Gregis" provides that those under 80 years of age "on the day the vacancy of the Apostolic See begins", that is, the day when the Pope dies or resign, are cardinals electors. Benedict XVI resigned on February 28, 2013, BEFORE Kasper's 80th birthday.I think it would be useful to mention in the voter table that Kasper was already 80 years old (age 80, in parentheses), but include a footnote with this explanation. 2804:D84:2280:2400:6F91:F3D:19FB:6CA0 ( talk) 03:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)