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This article has changed a lot! On the way the original information about Xterminator has got lost. Rich Farmbrough 21:27, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Something to clean up: what in the heck is a "buss"? And I think no matter what it turns out to mean, "When Capleton first buss on the scene in the late 1980s" is bad grammar. RSpeer 14:33, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
Caple lyrics where labelled as homophobic. Well I need to see an example of this
Labelled as homophobic? How about this:
Yuh nuh se a Battyman dem A Sodomite dem A Heathen dem boy True mi lotion di woman dem Dem nuh like me and mi nuh like dem Unu listen me again Yuh nuh see a dead man dem A duppy man dem A demon dem boy That's why wi naaaaaah, Guh ina nutten wid dem Triangle e 10:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I bet he's [censored]. I was going to sample his stuff...too bad he's terribly [censored].
Gatesofawesome!
00:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
Could someone provide the phonetic pronunciation/spelling of his name? I would like to write an article about him in the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Thank you. --
Vanka5
07:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
How is the "Criticisms" section unbalanced? Hyacinth ( talk) 23:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
What about the artist's point of view? It sounds like he wants his homophobia out there (to promote it), his promoters don't, and LGBT rights groups want it out there (to criticize it). Hyacinth ( talk) 05:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The last discussion regarding the unbalanced nature of this article is from July 2008. The article is still unbalanced; the section devoted to anti-gay lyrics is larger than both the "Early Life" and "Religious Views" sections, making the section devoted to his anti-gay lyrics the second-largest topic in the article. As mentioned in the earlier discussion, Wikipedia policy dictates for biographies that the length of the section be in proportion to the rest of the article. A section regarding the anti-gay lyrics of this musician of the current size is clearly disproportionate.
Additionally, there are factual errors within this section. It states, "burning ("bun out") of gay men," when to 'bun' something in Jamaican patois is not necessarily to literally set it on fire. This interpretation is sourced to a LGBT website with a very clear argument against Capleton's music, not an authority on Jamaican patois. Additionally, this statement is factually wrong: "The latent negative attitude against homosexuality in Jamaican society changed into active violence against lesbian women and gay men, after people from the DJ-scene like Beenieman, Capleton, Buju Banton, TOK, Bountykiller and others, started their agitating performances." One issue with this is that it is sourced to a website in German (the claim that Capleton "encouraged his audience to burn, kill gay men" is also sourced to a non-English site); this is an English Wikipedia entry. The other issue is that, as mentioned, it is factually wrong. Anti-homosexual attitudes in Jamaica, including violence against homosexuals, has existed in Jamaica long before the advent of Capleton, dancehall, or the Rastafarian religious movement.-- ARoyal ( talk) 13:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
This singer is one of a small group of performers who are being protested for writing and performing lyrics urging that all gay people be murdered. That is, unfortunately, the most salient aspect of their biographies. It is appropriate that the lyrics and the protest be prominent in their biographies, despite their promoters' understandable desire to hide this aspect of their lives. Restored to previous version. —Preceding
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16:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I almost never revert any contribution. However, others seem to do it without any thought to whatever else might be removed. I know nothing about this subject, however: I have noted that the anti- gay sentiment from Capleton has been referenced. This is an encyclopedia. I've edited other articles with far more controversy; please act responsibly here. USE the sources that people just toss into the External links section as if it's someone else's job! This is not an article that I plan to edit, I only came to add a clearer photo, however, I think it should be monitored and semi-protected after what little I've seen. (Trust me, these are strong sentiments coming from myself-- I hate head-butting.) -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 19:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I would like to help with this dispute if I can. First, I would like to say that if this individual really does advocate violence in his music, then I am just as interested in getting that documented in this article as anybody else. Now, let me explain that this is such a damaging charge to make against someone, the charge must have a reliable source. The music web site is nowhere close to being a reliable source, and even if it were, the lyrics are written in a dialect that I do not understand. You need to find a reliable source for the charge before it can be put into this article. This requirement has absolutely nothing to do with the charge or the individual that this article is about--it applies to all biographies of living people equally.-- Jarhed ( talk) 09:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
This artist is one of only ten worldwide who are being protested for calling in their lyrics for the murder and torture of people. Whether you agree with the protest or not, it is this fact that makes these ten artists stand out, and it should be referenced at the top of the artistes entry (along with a lyric clarifying the reason for the protest). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.63.127 ( talk) 22:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Most of it is unreferenced and appears to be copied information from the dancehallreggae.com bio page, which itself is unreferenced. I'm going to eliminate all unreferenced material and piece together what I can using better referenced material and interviews.-- Chimino ( talk) 11:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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This article has changed a lot! On the way the original information about Xterminator has got lost. Rich Farmbrough 21:27, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Something to clean up: what in the heck is a "buss"? And I think no matter what it turns out to mean, "When Capleton first buss on the scene in the late 1980s" is bad grammar. RSpeer 14:33, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
Caple lyrics where labelled as homophobic. Well I need to see an example of this
Labelled as homophobic? How about this:
Yuh nuh se a Battyman dem A Sodomite dem A Heathen dem boy True mi lotion di woman dem Dem nuh like me and mi nuh like dem Unu listen me again Yuh nuh see a dead man dem A duppy man dem A demon dem boy That's why wi naaaaaah, Guh ina nutten wid dem Triangle e 10:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I bet he's [censored]. I was going to sample his stuff...too bad he's terribly [censored].
Gatesofawesome!
00:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
Could someone provide the phonetic pronunciation/spelling of his name? I would like to write an article about him in the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Thank you. --
Vanka5
07:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
How is the "Criticisms" section unbalanced? Hyacinth ( talk) 23:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
What about the artist's point of view? It sounds like he wants his homophobia out there (to promote it), his promoters don't, and LGBT rights groups want it out there (to criticize it). Hyacinth ( talk) 05:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The last discussion regarding the unbalanced nature of this article is from July 2008. The article is still unbalanced; the section devoted to anti-gay lyrics is larger than both the "Early Life" and "Religious Views" sections, making the section devoted to his anti-gay lyrics the second-largest topic in the article. As mentioned in the earlier discussion, Wikipedia policy dictates for biographies that the length of the section be in proportion to the rest of the article. A section regarding the anti-gay lyrics of this musician of the current size is clearly disproportionate.
Additionally, there are factual errors within this section. It states, "burning ("bun out") of gay men," when to 'bun' something in Jamaican patois is not necessarily to literally set it on fire. This interpretation is sourced to a LGBT website with a very clear argument against Capleton's music, not an authority on Jamaican patois. Additionally, this statement is factually wrong: "The latent negative attitude against homosexuality in Jamaican society changed into active violence against lesbian women and gay men, after people from the DJ-scene like Beenieman, Capleton, Buju Banton, TOK, Bountykiller and others, started their agitating performances." One issue with this is that it is sourced to a website in German (the claim that Capleton "encouraged his audience to burn, kill gay men" is also sourced to a non-English site); this is an English Wikipedia entry. The other issue is that, as mentioned, it is factually wrong. Anti-homosexual attitudes in Jamaica, including violence against homosexuals, has existed in Jamaica long before the advent of Capleton, dancehall, or the Rastafarian religious movement.-- ARoyal ( talk) 13:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
This singer is one of a small group of performers who are being protested for writing and performing lyrics urging that all gay people be murdered. That is, unfortunately, the most salient aspect of their biographies. It is appropriate that the lyrics and the protest be prominent in their biographies, despite their promoters' understandable desire to hide this aspect of their lives. Restored to previous version. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
75.111.63.127 (
talk)
16:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I almost never revert any contribution. However, others seem to do it without any thought to whatever else might be removed. I know nothing about this subject, however: I have noted that the anti- gay sentiment from Capleton has been referenced. This is an encyclopedia. I've edited other articles with far more controversy; please act responsibly here. USE the sources that people just toss into the External links section as if it's someone else's job! This is not an article that I plan to edit, I only came to add a clearer photo, however, I think it should be monitored and semi-protected after what little I've seen. (Trust me, these are strong sentiments coming from myself-- I hate head-butting.) -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 19:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I would like to help with this dispute if I can. First, I would like to say that if this individual really does advocate violence in his music, then I am just as interested in getting that documented in this article as anybody else. Now, let me explain that this is such a damaging charge to make against someone, the charge must have a reliable source. The music web site is nowhere close to being a reliable source, and even if it were, the lyrics are written in a dialect that I do not understand. You need to find a reliable source for the charge before it can be put into this article. This requirement has absolutely nothing to do with the charge or the individual that this article is about--it applies to all biographies of living people equally.-- Jarhed ( talk) 09:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
This artist is one of only ten worldwide who are being protested for calling in their lyrics for the murder and torture of people. Whether you agree with the protest or not, it is this fact that makes these ten artists stand out, and it should be referenced at the top of the artistes entry (along with a lyric clarifying the reason for the protest). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.63.127 ( talk) 22:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Most of it is unreferenced and appears to be copied information from the dancehallreggae.com bio page, which itself is unreferenced. I'm going to eliminate all unreferenced material and piece together what I can using better referenced material and interviews.-- Chimino ( talk) 11:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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