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Canterbury University (Seychelles) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not to be confused with the University of Canterbury in New Zealand or the Canterbury Christ Church University in England. Canterbury University is an accredited,[1] private, degree-granting institution. According to its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses.[2] The.[3] university had a department in seychelles. Contents
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• 1Recognition • 2Degree recipients • 3See also • 4References • 5External links Recognition According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University used to be recognised body for UK degree awards, Canterbury University accredited by any higher education accreditation organization ,the United congress of colleges which is recognized by the United States Department of Education or theCouncil for Higher Education Accreditation. Its degrees acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles is not restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions. [7] A 2005 article in World Education News & Reviews discussed the continua of legitimacy and acceptability of academic institutions, ranging from "highly legitimate" and "highly acceptable" to "illegal" and "no acceptability," respectively; the author stated that although Canterbury University and others like it operate legally and the degrees conferred are "acceptable to some", it is an example of an institution that is recognized Degree recipients See also • List of accredited institutions of higher learning
removed here by -- Tagishsimon (talk) 10:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the Canterbury University in question was initially a business school founded in England in 1974 called "The Canterbury College of Business Studies." It offered correspondence courses as a private degree granting body. Since then, the laws have changed in England in 1988 regarding British Private Degree Granting Bodies. The name changed to Canterbury University, but the school was then registered in the Republic of Seychelles (islands in the Indian Ocean north of Madagascar) The school is compliant with the Seychelles legislation. For a time, Canterbury maintained a Graduates Services office at 193 Market St. Hyde, Cheshire, SK14 1HF England.
They are no longer there. The school was accredited by the United Congress of Colleges, based in Ireland. The reason you were unable to locate them is because they have since vanished from the "radar screen."
As from accounts I have obtained, Canterbury University issued degrees based on professional/ experiential learning and prior study, acceptable in all of Asia, Africa and most other countries.
Hope this gives you some insight on the school, they still provided correspondent courses and students were tested and examined via postal arrangements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Kirk ( talk • contribs)
Out of curiosity, I plugged a sample of the above frequently-reappearing block of text into Google. As I suspected, it's a copy-paste of a forum post, originally from here. Not only is it spammy and non-wikified -- it's a copyvio too. --Dynaflow babble 13:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC) Most universities in the US and the UK take your experience and will give you credit for it and then you take some courses with that university and you get your degree. Check your facts. Also in the US you don't get acceded unless you take government money, that is the reason allot of Christian Universities don't have accreditation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FindTheFacts ( talk • contribs) 13:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Without wishing to cause a revert war, and accepting the invitation to 'negotiate' on the Article, here is an example of precisely the negative slant that is the problem with this article.
On April 18 2008, this article began with the following statement:
"Canterbury University of the Seychelles is a degree-granting institution incorporated in the Republic of Seychelles widely considered by international accrediting bodies to be a diploma mill."
No reference was offered to justify this statement. No accrediting bodies were listed as references. It was just given as an opening statement.
After my recent attempt to correct the negative skew, a new update has been offered with a reference - in an apparent attempt to justify the statement.
However, the reference quoted is dated June 10 2008 (almost 2 months after) and appears to be a verbatim quote from this Wikipedia Article.
Therefore contributors to this article are quoting references that have quoted this article, to justify a statement in this article.
That is misleading and is neither neutral or helpful and appears to be a violation of the very Wikipedia principles that my edit was accused of.
It is hoped that this contribution (which will doubtless be deleted) is accepted as the 'negotiation' on the Article that I have been invited to participate in.
Who first used the phrase "widely considered by international accrediting bodies to be a diploma mill" and what reference was used to justify that sweeping statement.
Please list the many 'accrediting agencies' (there must be many if this is a 'widely' held consideration) that are on record as holding this official position.
Secondly, other than this Article or links from or quoting this Article, please furnish the reference that justifies that the site quoted below is the Official Website of Canterbury University of the Seychelles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theuglytruth ( talk • contribs) 20:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
We also have evidence from an article on a criminal case in Florida of a more generalized non-acceptance of CUotS degrees in the US:
Thanks for the feedback and please accept my apologies - I am still learning Wikipedia etiquette and techniques - I will get better with time.
Fair question.
My interest is that sometimes something grabs your interest - probably just like, for some reason, this has grabbed all of yours'. Specifically, I am drawn to instances where there is a discrepancy between what people think a situation is or should be, and what it actually is.
I also have ethical questions about what I consider to be an Accreditation Cartel in the US which is more about making money and plugging into Title IV Federal Funding than it is about program quality and developing relevant academic programs for a globalized and multi-media connected 21st Century. The result is a dangerous and reactionary set up that perpetuates the established (regardless of its relevance or usefulness) and stifles the innovative and new - regardless of its merits.
My concern is more about accreditation than Canterbury University of the Seychelles.
Please read my thought on this matter below.
My problems with this Wiki Article is not that it directs criticism at Canterbury University, but that it does so in an unbalanced way that is skewed towards negativity.
I do not have a problem with the diploma mill lable per se, I have a problem with an unfair diploma mill label.
According to my research, the diploma mill label first came about with the Oregon ODA. That was slavishly copied and quoted over time.
However, that claim was based on an overzealous application of an unconstitutional law which was repealed once it was challenged in the courts.
Since the law in Oregon was changed, the ODA limits itself to listing Canterbury University of the Seychelles as 'unaccredited' for the purposes of Oregon law.
I have no problem with that.
In fact it limits itself to that with literally hundreds of degree granting institutions that it defamed over the years.
I use the phrase 'defamed' accurately in that, as a result of legal action against the ODA, The Oregon Attorney General's office agreed to provide ODA personnel with a training session on defamation law.
SAMPLE REFERENCE: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20041221005728&newsLang=en dead link
Sources that quoted or misquoted ODA listings over the years have not been quick to publish retractions or amendments.
The question that I ask - in all honesty and I am not trying to be an apologist - if Canterbury University of the Seychelles ( or any other non-Oregon degree granting institution) an Oregon degree granting institution, then why mention its listing by the ODA.
That listing can only be relevant to Oregon residents. The legislation is specific to Oregon and has no force outside of Oregon. It therefore has no relevance outside of Oregon.
Oregon residents have access to the information.
A lighthearted aside would equate this to a Wiki Article on Smith and Wesson reporting that its handguns are illegal in London.
People in London know that. People in Oregon are not affected by the legislation in London and can happily purchase their Saturday Night Specials.
The reference to the ODA is, in my honest opinion, skewed to emphasize the negative.
It takes pains to mention that the list is "for the protection of the citizens of Oregon and their post-secondary schools by identifying those degree suppliers that do not meet the requirements of ORS 348.609(1)".[
That sounds impressively negative and whoever wrote it clearly did so with that intention.
However it fails make reference to 3 important fact listed in the same Reference, with a higher order or preference (i.e. listed first) which are:
1. The ODA makes the following prominent statement on its website:
PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE HAVE BECOME AWARE OF SOME QUESTIONS AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS DATABASE.
UNTIL THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, PLEASE DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS RESOURCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AN INSTITUTION IS PROPERLY ACCREDITED.
REFERENCE: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/accreditation.html
1. ODA approval does not mean that the degrees will be accepted by licensing agencies or employers
2. A degree from an institution listed as unaccredited by the ODA is perfectly legal for use in Oregon, provided the following Disclaimer is made: "(Name of school) does not have accreditation recognized by the United States Department of Education and has not been approved by the Office of Degree Authorization." ORS 348.609(2)(a).
REFERENCE: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.aspx
In the interests of fairness and neutrality, I think reference to the ODA is not relevant, but if it is considered relevant, then the above information should appear alogside it.
Theuglytruth ( talk) 22:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by the assertion that the URL http://www.canterburyuni.net/ is not working. I've accessed it several times in the last 12 hours, from two different United States IPs, on computers that did not have the website in the cache. Am I "special" -- or what? -- Orlady ( talk) 23:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Today it isn't working again. Very interesting, TUT, what is going on? Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 02:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking at the "university" website & noticing the insertion of the name "Canterbury University" by TM made me wonder whether the article's name was appropriate.
As far as I can make out:
There's a pattern emerging. Thoughts? -- Tagishsimon (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I enjoy working with everyone here. I even hope that Theuglytruth honors us with his presence again in the near future. Everytime I see your handle, TUT, I enjoy the irony and it tickles my funny bone. Thank you! TallMagic ( talk) 16:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
In the University of Canterbury article I found the following story.
In 1962 someone proposed changing the University's motto — a reference to the original endowment of land — to something more relevant. A cleric proposed "The Truth Shall Make You Free" (John 8:32), but Professor of Mathematics Derek Lawden, a noted atheist, asked: "But what if the truth should be that we are automata? Then we should not only be automata, but foolish automata." The motto retained its original wording.
I enjoyed it so, I had to share. Please forgive my off topic comment. TallMagic ( talk) 20:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The old URL wasn't working again. Today someone (an Anon) replaced the dead link with a another link. This new website doesn't mention Seychelles, at least not anywhere that I could find. Instead it has a Dublin Ireland address. Any thoughts or comments? Perhaps Theuglytruth could tell what the deal is? Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 21:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Canterbury University of today traces its history to the formation of The Canterbury College of Business Studies founded in England in 1974. It offered correspondence courses as a Private Degree Granting Body. When the law changed in England in 1988 regarding British Private Degree Granting Bodies, Canterbury College took the opportunity to internationalise its structure and programs and to acquire full 'University Status'.
Canterbury University has maintained its 'University Status' since then. After winning a crushing legal victory concerning the legality of its degrees in Florida in August 2009, Canterbury University was acquired by an international consortium of private colleges. In keeping with the international nature and requirements of the consortium the reliance on a single jurisdiction (The Republic of the Seychelles) for its legal existence was discontinued in January 2010 in favour of a framework of transnational and international incorporations, agreements and Trusts.
This continues to ensure a fully legal existence as a private degree granting institution but emphasises its interantional nature. Canterbury University degree programmes are fully compliant width all relevant international and transnational legislation, UK legislation (where it maintains the Office of the Registrar) and the norms outlined by the International Standards Organisation in EN ISO Model Standard 9001 of July 1994. Canterbury University has full legally established rights to the trade dress and nomenclature "Canterbury University" including intellectual property and copyrights established in that trade dress and nomenclature. It is independent of and unassociated with any other degree granting institutions around the world (of which there are several) that also happen to have "Canterbury" in their own trade dress or nomenclature.
Those interested in finding out more about Canterbury University, its degrees, innovative approaches to graduation, accreditation status and its Graduates, please visit Explicatus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I realise that the facts are cited and not under dispute, however there are major undue weight issues with this article. I have removed some of the OR/leading terms, and also removed some of the sources in an attempt to balance the article. The facts about the institution are pretty clear, but it does not have to be worded in a manner designed to promote a certain POV.
カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 08:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
I have readded two fragments. The first is "According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University is neither a recognised body for UK degree awards,[3] nor is it a listed body.[4]" which is directly relevant since the institution is or was run from the UK. The second is "Canterbury University is not accredited by any recognised accreditation body. As such, its degrees may not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions. [3]" It would be best if we could find a reference for the first sentence; the second is now referenced. We are seeking to provide a factual definition of the institution. The "not accredited" section goes to the heart of the facts of the institution. Just because it is a diploma mill does not mean we should shy away from pointing out that it is a diploma mill; it has nothing to do with undue weight and everything to do with identifying factually what the thing is (or isn't) and what the legal ramifications of that are.
That said, I think Sennen Goroshi's intervention has had the effect of improving the article, and so thanks are in order. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 19:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
A REASONABLE EDIT: I am attempting to introduce an unbiased view on this topic. It is important to be fair enough to introduce both sides of this issue, as both sides still clamor to be heard. Or has objectivity in reporting now died completely? Are we to only publish what we wish to be seen in an attempt to bias one side or another? I most assuredly hope that Wikipedia is big enough to objectively report all views in an reasoned manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 13:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Orlady: As I wrote in our discussion in "my talk":
Orlady, from reviewing the talk page, many other users have had similar concerns. If you feel that a further discussion of something which has not already been tackled is warranted, then you can certainly let me know. But unlike some people, I do not live at my computer, feverishly debating Wikipedia adjustments. I am happy to contribute to the discussion if you have a new insight? Perhaps you haven't read the entire discussion yet? I highly recommend it, and find that I agree with a great deal of it. I believe that it is not asking too much to demand an unbiased article which allows BOTH allegations/sides to the issue.
Bringing in others (such as Dynaflow) to do the dirty work for you (reverting the articles) still doesn't solve the problem of bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Dynaflow: I understand your position as well as Orlady's. I truly do. However, I am a freelance journalist. That doesn't mean that I'm necessarily The Expert in unbiased or frank journalism. But it DOES mean that I was trained to write an article that (hopefully) tackles the subject from an objective viewpoint. Please try to understand my position: Many people who have contributed to this article have an axe to grind. They show bias in one way or another. The article before I tackled it was naming it a diploma mill, and showed remarkable bias. Of course a bias in the other direction would be to completely ignore the controversy. But in all fairness, both sides should be presented without a slant in favor of either one.
Comparing my argument to an argument in favor of Hitler or Pol Pot is extremist at best, wouldn't you agree? I hope you rethink such biased commentary and realize that bias is evident throughout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
1. What's the building that features in the website's banner?
2. Where is "130 Upper park Street, Dublin 4"? Google & Multimap seems to be having difficulties in locating the Dublin Campus. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 22:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Quick head's up. I've come across College of Cambridge, which looks like a diploma mill. If you collect such things, here's another. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 07:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
This user is not interested in fairness or honesty. There is a total lack of integity at this site due to biased troglodytes with an agenda to persue only negative views! signed cugraduate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.157.35 ( talk) 18:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The following paragraph was copied from above.
This is a quote from wikipedia-watchers.org(Another problem is that most of the administrators at Wikipedia prefer to exercise their police functions anonymously. The process itself is open, but the identities of the administrators are usually cloaked behind a username and a Gmail address. (Gmail does not show an originating IP address in the email headers, which means that you cannot geolocate the originator, or even know whether one administrator is really a different person than another administrator.) If an admin has a political or personal agenda, he can do a fair amount of damage with the special editing tools available to him. The victim may not even find out that this is happening until it's too late. From Wikipedia, the material is spread like a virus by search engines and other scrapers, and the damage is amplified by orders of magnitude. There is no recourse for the victim, and no one can be held accountable. Once it's all over the web, no one has the power to put it back into the bottle. ) There is nothing contrived, false-truth or negative about this stament. It simply puts into uperpective the purgerious effects of agenda biased,so-called contributions to public forums. In a Democracy all ideas are relevent. In a Cummunist state do you find single ideas and opinions. I didn't know where else to put this, so if this is the wrong place I apologize. I never posted anything that wasn't factual and public record. Yet, I can't help but notice that "opinions" are widely accepted here as fact. Thank you, cugraduate (Clarion University) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cugraduate ( talk • contribs) 14:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Cugraduate added the following to the article but it was properly deleted. "PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE HAVE BECOME AWARE OF SOME QUESTIONS AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS DATABASE.
UNTIL THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, PLEASE DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS RESOURCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AN INSTITUTION IS PROPERLY ACCREDITED."
Here's the link to the above. [3] Please note that the above is referring to the list of properly accredited schools on the government website. NOT to the list of unaccredited schools on the ODA website. The implication in the properly reverted edits was that the above statements somehow mitagated the fact that CU is on the ODA list. This is an incorrect understanding. Cugraduates, I hope that this explanation sheds some light on the situation as to why your edits had to be reverted. Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 00:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a difference between Canterbury University Cheshire and that of the Seychelles... the other is accredited and legal —Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationfirst ( talk • contribs) 00:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The recent (August 2009) Florida case involving City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D. a graduate of Canterbury University was dismissed for more than just the fact that his job did not require a degree or that "conduct in which the accused was alleged to have engaged was not prohibited by statute" as the article suggests but that he was not guilty as he did nothing wrong. In fact the court decision actually stated that Canterbury University although unaccredited was a legal entity under the laws of the Republic of the Seychelles and therefore allowed to grant degrees within their own jurisdiction. It also restated a known fact that the US has no jurisdiction over foreign institutions and that "accreditation" is not a mandatory requirement of education. It did reaffirm the right however of states or organizations to set policy on acceptance of credentials but this was not the issue in this case. The primary issue with the case was the poorly worded legal brief attacking Dr. Tramel based on a law that had already been deemed unconstitutional from the state supreme court and the supposition that his degree was illegal. The last point was under direct evidence submitted, proven to be wrong as the Canterbury University of the Seychelles is a recognized operating company duly and legitimately operating under the laws of the Republic of the Seychelles as a educational institution and therefore allowed to grant degrees. As a point of Reference the Republic has no Department or Ministry of Education so I was unable to find anyone legally, officially and directly responsible for the oversight of education. The initial legal point also broke the foundation of the case. I would suggest that you include several links about this case and correct the inaccuracies in your update.
Suggested links: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/marianna-fl/TT0LIQSF13I8L3H7Q and http://www.pr-inside.com/florida-first-amendment-legal-victory-r1518054.htm are good starting points. The court transcript as far as I know has not yet been put on line but it is public information. Jaringtn ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} You must include this link in order to update and be fear with Canterbury University and shows respect to their graduated people from all over the world.
Qwertypress ( talk) 07:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Clearly an attempt by someone to avoid showing that "accreditation" is in the eye of the beholder. if the university has a legal right to provide degree granting credentials then it should be acknowledged. My degree that cost me $60,000 over 4 years carries no more or less weight, except that I was able to obtain specific grants that are not available to students of non-US Dept. of ED (voluntary) accredited institutions. This entire WIK page seems to be an attempt to defame an private degree granting institution from it's UK 1988 Reform Act privileges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Canterbury University ]], [1]
I'm not quite sure what you're asking for. Can you please clarify? Thanks! --
{{editsemiprotected}} http://www.einnews.com/pr-news/48220-florida-first-amendment-legal-victory-for-canterbury-university-smashes-accreditation-myths- FLORIDA - First Amendment legal victory for Canterbury University smashes Accreditation Myths.
/EIN Presswire/ For two years, former Sneads City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D., a graduate of Canterbury University, has fought to clear his name and confirm the bona fides of his credentials. Justice was finally done on August 26 in the 14th Judicial Circuit Court when Judge William L. Wright dismissed all charges against him after the Prosecution was forced to admit that his degrees were perfectly legal.
The hearing took just 27 minutes during which every facet of the State's case against Dr. Tramel collapsed. Dr. Tramel's degrees from Canterbury University (which is legally incorporated in the Seychelles and has an office in Hyde, Cheshire, UK) do not have accreditation recognized by the US Department of Education which is voluntary and is not possible anyway because the Secretary of Education is prevented by statute from accrediting foreign degrees, institutions or programs.
He was charged under Florida Statute 817.567 which had been previously struck down as an unconstitutional violation of First Amendment rights in Samuel Bartow Strange, III v. Michael Satz and Saavedra v. State of Florida,
"People don't understand accreditation" explained Dr. Tramel, referring to the report "Can College Accreditation Live Up to Its Promise?" by George Leef and Roxana Burris for the American Council of Trustees and Alumni. "People think it is compulsory when it's voluntary. They think it's a warranty of degree quality which it's not. It allows access to Title IV Federal Tax Dollars and academic freedom restricted to what the Federal Government dictates. I believe access to academic programs independent of Government finance and interference is an essential factor in a free society."
Judge William L. Wright agreed the law had been unconstitutionally applied, dismissed all charges and wished Jerry Tramel good luck, days before the conclusion of another long running Florida case in which Naples Police Officers Joe Popka and Drew McGregor were similarly vindicated over their use of unaccredited degrees.
"I lost my job over this." Veteran Tramel points out, "But nobody involved in the investigation or prosecution of this case remains in the employ of the State Attorney's Office. I have been advised that I can expect substantial compensation for being put through this terrible ordeal, which my wife and I have endured to clear my own name and to make a stand for academic freedom for every Citizen of this great State and this great Country."
-- 69.125.70.161, 14:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I added some information about the conclusion of the case to the article, citing a newspaper article that is essentially the same as this piece. -- Orlady ( talk) 14:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
FLORIDA - First Amendment legal victory for Canterbury University smashes Accreditation Myths.
/EIN Presswire/ For two years, former Sneads City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D., a graduate of Canterbury University, has fought to clear his name and confirm the bona fides of his credentials. Justice was finally done on August 26 in the 14th Judicial Circuit Court when Judge William L. Wright dismissed all charges against him after the Prosecution was forced to admit that his degrees were perfectly legal.
The hearing took just 27 minutes during which every facet of the State's case against Dr. Tramel collapsed. Dr. Tramel's degrees from Canterbury University (which is legally incorporated in the Seychelles and has an office in Hyde, Cheshire, UK) do not have accreditation recognized by the US Department of Education which is voluntary and is not possible anyway because the Secretary of Education is prevented by statute from accrediting foreign degrees, institutions or programs.
He was charged under Florida Statute 817.567 which had been previously struck down as an unconstitutional violation of First Amendment rights in Samuel Bartow Strange, III v. Michael Satz and Saavedra v. State of Florida,
"People don't understand accreditation" explained Dr. Tramel, referring to the report "Can College Accreditation Live Up to Its Promise?" by George Leef and Roxana Burris for the American Council of Trustees and Alumni. "People think it is compulsory when it's voluntary. They think it's a warranty of degree quality which it's not. It allows access to Title IV Federal Tax Dollars and academic freedom restricted to what the Federal Government dictates. I believe access to academic programs independent of Government finance and interference is an essential factor in a free society."
Judge William L. Wright agreed the law had been unconstitutionally applied, dismissed all charges and wished Jerry Tramel good luck, days before the conclusion of another long running Florida case in which Naples Police Officers Joe Popka and Drew McGregor were similarly vindicated over their use of unaccredited degrees.
"I lost my job over this." Veteran Tramel points out, "But nobody involved in the investigation or prosecution of this case remains in the employ of the State Attorney's Office. I have been advised that I can expect substantial compensation for being put through this terrible ordeal, which my wife and I have endured to clear my own name and to make a stand for academic freedom for every Citizen of this great State and this great Country." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.70.161 ( talk) 11:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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Canterbury University is an accredited]],</ref>
private, degree-granting institution.
Its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses.Cite error: A <ref>
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[1], Canterbury University is accredited by higher education accreditation organizations recognized by the
United States Department of Education and
Council for Higher Education Accreditation.
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Canterbury University is an accredited,</ref> private, degree-granting institution. Its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses. [1]
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According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University is a recognised body for UK degree awards, [1] Its degrees may be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may not be restricted.
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Actually, their accreditation is governed under the reform act of 1988 to which they conform. They are legally permitted to issue such degrees by reference of that specific act.
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199.67.140.56 ( talk) 08:34, 30 November 2012 (UTC) this false valid higher education university , offering post graduate program online and through postal , based in united kingdom
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me what change you are requesting. Please specify the proposed edit exactly, and supply
reliable sources to support the change. Thanks.
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Canterbury University claims accreditation from the United Congress of Colleges (UCC) of Arklow, Ireland. Martyn Pink ( talk) 09:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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The information provided is outdated, this university is now recognized in over 86 countries. For additional information please visit http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/
64.134.176.45 ( talk) 15:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
You are talking about the University of Canterbury in New Zealand. This page is about an entirely different entity. The top of this page has a "not to be confused with" notice. Is that notice not sufficiently prominent? -- Orlady ( talk) 16:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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The whole article has posed as a harsh kick in the balls from my employer. I attended this school and obtained a LEGAL degree. A study that took me 3 years, and now I had to contact my academic supervisor from two years ago, confirm attendance, get transcripts, get a hand-written letter from the dean just because someone wrote that it sells degrees through some mill site? ..
Where is the proof? Please correct the information given.
(1)I will quote a news article saying: "It is important to note that neither of these qualification providers operates illegally; their degrees are clearly acceptable", written by George Brown; PhD - www.HigherEdConsulting.com.au.
This has created allot of problems for me, as I am forced to prove my bachelors degree, which in fact had already been verified and accepted by the institution that granted me my masters.
I have several articles regarding court judges granting verification to this school in U.S cases. The degrees are legal, and this article is just slander, and mocking of the great online education brought to us by the advantages of the internet.
(2) Some other people reacting to the slander. These have also attended the school and earned a degree legally.
Shame on you, and all others that say online education is a fraud.
(1) http://www.wes.org/ewenr/05oct/feature.htm (2) http://online.degree.net/accredited-unaccredited-state-approved-diploma-mill/t-canterbury-university-1310.html
Abi90no ( talk) 13:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Accreditation according to website: http://canterburyuniversity.wordpress.com/about/
UCC ACCREDITATION: Legal Status in good standing, Private, Specifically Incorporated Level Institution at The United Congress of Colleges, Dr K..Stevens UCC(Europe), 77 Avalon Crescent, Co Wicklow, Republic of Ireland (Eire).
UCC ACCREDITED DEGREE DISCIPLINES: Arts, Sciences, Philosophy, Business Administration, Commerce, Laws, Letters, Literature, Music, Theology, Education and Divinity.
ACADEMY SCOPE: “To provide courses and training schemes in all Curriculum activities and educational activities.
CANTERBURY UNIVERSITY: International Standard Organization EN ISO Model 9001
GRADUATE VERIFICATION: Mandatory student written signed consent letter for verification request presented by third parties only by mail addressed to : The Registrar, Graduate Service Office, 193 Market Street, Hyde, SK141HF, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
Cloudmichael ( talk) 04:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
There was an article Canterbury University Online which was clearly attempting to describe the same entity as this one. Both included citing the same court case on Florida. Both also included describing a so-called "Hyde-Cheshire"... which doesn't exist. (There is a Hyde, Greater Manchester, formerly known as Hyde, Cheshire. I presume is what they mean; their common use of the entirely made-up word "Hyde-Cheshire" also demonstrates their commonality.)
So I have converted that article into a redirect towards this one. I hope that was appropriate. Editors here may also wish to add that article (now a redirect) to their watch lists, just in case someone tries to re-instate it.
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The article is inaccurate. References 1,5,6,7,8 and 10 are dead and don't support the claims in the article. The school is not completely "unaccredited" since it is "accredited" by UCC link http://canterburyuniversity.wordpress.com/about/. I'm not saying its accreditation is acceptable by the UK or US, but I am pointing out that this article is incorrect, outdated, and the reference links are dead. It should point out that it is an actual accredited university but identify the other problems with it with proper references. This is important because the "shorthand" claim that it was not a school and not accredited is what caused the case against Tramel to be dismissed. I hope the state attorney didn't use the wiki listing for data. Lewiscypher ( talk) 18:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
My brother got a degree at the university, according to him, tells me that he obtained studying in virtual form, this provided me the link canterburyuniversity.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aderiver ( talk • contribs) 15:07, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Up til now, they've been listed as being associated with Instantdegrees.com, which (I gather) makes them useless as an educational institution. Has this changed? These edits seem to indicate that they are now a regular university. Is this true? This would be major change. The source is their website, and their website is not a neutral source, and even then it doesn't say anything about their being accredited -- it just says that accreditation is a slippery concept, which is no kind of answer. They still do not have an actual campus and so forth and it seems as if nothing has changed, and on that basis I've redacted the material.
I reached out to lastglad on his talk page but this didn't seem to help. Let us not edit war but rather Lastglad is invited to present his case here. -- Herostratus ( talk) 01:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
The news of 26th February 2013... Lancaster, Pennsylvania, a woman was legally sued for something about CU, she was accused of having bought something, but... It says, in that article, "such school doesn't exist". What the? It is a big mistake. It's unaccredited but it DOES exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.25.232.1 ( talk) 16:52, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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The official website of the university is http://www.canterburyuniversity.com
Students can access virtual platform to present their courses ( http://canterburyuniversity.com/virtual_campus/), as anyone can check whether a title is actually issued by the university ( http://canterburyuniversity.com/site/grades/web_verify)
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09:32, 9 July 2016 (UTC)This is the new website of Canterbury University :
http://www.canterburyuniversity.com
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Homvi ( talk) 08:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I have the adress of canterbury University website: http://canterburyuniversity.com/site/
Many Thanks
Noted but not corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 17:02, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I don't understand why Canterbury University must be accredited by the US Department of Education, when it is NOT a US University! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduzone1 ( talk • contribs) 19:11, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
"Concerns have been raised regarding the paragraph discussing the dismissal and subsequent charges against the former city manager of a Florida municipality, as well as the fraudulent use of a fake Canterbury University diploma by an individual in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. The current references in the Wikipedia article do not appear to be directly related to the subject matter and may not effectively support the claims made in the paragraph. Additionally, the tone of the paragraph could be perceived as demeaning towards Canterbury University. Therefore, it is recommended that these references and the paragraph itself be reviewed and revised to ensure accuracy, neutrality, and adherence to Wikipedia's content guidelines."
About the 9th reference ( I have attached the web archive link here) (a subscription is required on the main website)
The news website says the following:
“According to Sneads attorney Guy Green at the time the resulting information was presented to the town council, it appears that the degrees listed on his job application allegedly came from a “diploma mill” rather than a legitimate school of higher learning.”
There is absolutely no evidence to support the claim that it is a "diploma mill." Snead's attorney made this assertion, and the news reporter repeated it and someone published it on Wikipedia. However, it is merely an assumption without any proof.
But in the 11th reference ( Web archive link
here )( a subscription is required on the main website) The same news website of the reference 9th printed the following:
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In the court file, a letter from Canterbury University states that, while it is not an institution credited by the U.S. Department of Education, it does indeed exist.
Such accreditation is voluntary, the school’s representative pointed out, and is not necessary for the existence of the school.
The institution confirmed that Tramel does possess the degrees he claims to have from the university.
Further, the representative wrote, as a foreign school, it could not obtain U.S. accreditation even if it wished to do so.
Wilson explained why he believes the charge related to Tramel’s claim of an academic degree was dropped.
“If Mr. Tramel had said that he held a Ph.D. or B.Sc. from FSU, and he in fact did not, then he could be charged. But that is not what he did. Mr. Tramel claimed to hold a degree from Canterbury University, which is an online ‘diploma mill,’” Wilson said. “Mr. Tramel does in fact have the paperwork from this ‘diploma mill’ and is allowed to say he has it. .., The fact remains that his claim to have a Ph.D, although technically true, is purposely meant to deceive people into believing that it was a degree earned through a studious education which imparted knowledge on the recipient, in contrast to a title which was actually purchased.”
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The charges were dropped because the legitimacy of the degree was established. Even in the news it says that the Canterbury University Authority confirmed the authenticity of the degree, solidifying the fact that the university is legitimate and not a “diploma mill”. It is crucial to note that the attorney, Wilson, held a belief or assumption that the university was a diploma mill, which was then reported by the news. However, it is important to emphasize that he had no evidence to support this belief. Moreover, since the charges were dropped, this aspect becomes irrelevant to the subject, and the claim that the university is a diploma mill is untrue. Additionally, there is no substantial information found in the 10th reference. It appears that someone intentionally attempted to defame the university in the Wikipedia article.
In the second part of the paragraph on Degree recipients, it says “A woman was charged with fraud using a diploma from Canterbury University to get counseling jobs.”
In the 12th reference ( web archive link here) (a subscription is required on the main website) I have found two other news sources containing the same text as the reference 12th. Here are the links: Link 1 and Link 2 all the news says the same as following:
“Prosecutors say Faherty paid England-based Canterbury University for a college diploma, with master's degree certifications, but that it turns out no such school exists. Authorities say she used the fraudulent credentials to bolster her resume, working for TeamCare Behavioral Health of Lancaster and Pennsylvania Counseling Services Inc. in Lebanon from 2007 to 2009.”
The assertion made by the prosecutors that there was no such school is invalid and misleading. The university in question is legitimate and does exist. However, it is important to note that in the same news report, the authorities confirmed that the accused individual had indeed forged the document using the name of Canterbury University. This raises a compelling argument: if the university were truly a "diploma mill," wouldn't the focus be on the institution itself rather than solely on the fake document? This strongly suggests that the institution is not a diploma mill and is indeed a legitimate university. Furthermore, it is crucial to recognize that this story has no direct relevance to the university. It is possible for anyone to fabricate documents using the names of various universities. Therefore, this aspect should also be disregarded and removed from consideration.
The degree recipients section has no relevance and unjustly damages the reputation of the University. It was created falsely with the intention to defame the University.
(Note: For the web archive links, please stop loading the webpage as soon as it shows the content of the page. If you don't do that you will be shown the subscription page of the main websites.)
I am seeking the attention of Wikipedia administrators to address this issue. Darukaka ( talk) 06:50, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
In the recognition section the 7,8 and 4th references are too much old and not even state the name of this University. So this is to be removed.
The article needs to be reconstructed. Darukaka ( talk) 05:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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Canterbury University (Seychelles) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not to be confused with the University of Canterbury in New Zealand or the Canterbury Christ Church University in England. Canterbury University is an accredited,[1] private, degree-granting institution. According to its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses.[2] The.[3] university had a department in seychelles. Contents
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• 1Recognition • 2Degree recipients • 3See also • 4References • 5External links Recognition According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University used to be recognised body for UK degree awards, Canterbury University accredited by any higher education accreditation organization ,the United congress of colleges which is recognized by the United States Department of Education or theCouncil for Higher Education Accreditation. Its degrees acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles is not restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions. [7] A 2005 article in World Education News & Reviews discussed the continua of legitimacy and acceptability of academic institutions, ranging from "highly legitimate" and "highly acceptable" to "illegal" and "no acceptability," respectively; the author stated that although Canterbury University and others like it operate legally and the degrees conferred are "acceptable to some", it is an example of an institution that is recognized Degree recipients See also • List of accredited institutions of higher learning
removed here by -- Tagishsimon (talk) 10:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the Canterbury University in question was initially a business school founded in England in 1974 called "The Canterbury College of Business Studies." It offered correspondence courses as a private degree granting body. Since then, the laws have changed in England in 1988 regarding British Private Degree Granting Bodies. The name changed to Canterbury University, but the school was then registered in the Republic of Seychelles (islands in the Indian Ocean north of Madagascar) The school is compliant with the Seychelles legislation. For a time, Canterbury maintained a Graduates Services office at 193 Market St. Hyde, Cheshire, SK14 1HF England.
They are no longer there. The school was accredited by the United Congress of Colleges, based in Ireland. The reason you were unable to locate them is because they have since vanished from the "radar screen."
As from accounts I have obtained, Canterbury University issued degrees based on professional/ experiential learning and prior study, acceptable in all of Asia, Africa and most other countries.
Hope this gives you some insight on the school, they still provided correspondent courses and students were tested and examined via postal arrangements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Kirk ( talk • contribs)
Out of curiosity, I plugged a sample of the above frequently-reappearing block of text into Google. As I suspected, it's a copy-paste of a forum post, originally from here. Not only is it spammy and non-wikified -- it's a copyvio too. --Dynaflow babble 13:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC) Most universities in the US and the UK take your experience and will give you credit for it and then you take some courses with that university and you get your degree. Check your facts. Also in the US you don't get acceded unless you take government money, that is the reason allot of Christian Universities don't have accreditation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FindTheFacts ( talk • contribs) 13:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Without wishing to cause a revert war, and accepting the invitation to 'negotiate' on the Article, here is an example of precisely the negative slant that is the problem with this article.
On April 18 2008, this article began with the following statement:
"Canterbury University of the Seychelles is a degree-granting institution incorporated in the Republic of Seychelles widely considered by international accrediting bodies to be a diploma mill."
No reference was offered to justify this statement. No accrediting bodies were listed as references. It was just given as an opening statement.
After my recent attempt to correct the negative skew, a new update has been offered with a reference - in an apparent attempt to justify the statement.
However, the reference quoted is dated June 10 2008 (almost 2 months after) and appears to be a verbatim quote from this Wikipedia Article.
Therefore contributors to this article are quoting references that have quoted this article, to justify a statement in this article.
That is misleading and is neither neutral or helpful and appears to be a violation of the very Wikipedia principles that my edit was accused of.
It is hoped that this contribution (which will doubtless be deleted) is accepted as the 'negotiation' on the Article that I have been invited to participate in.
Who first used the phrase "widely considered by international accrediting bodies to be a diploma mill" and what reference was used to justify that sweeping statement.
Please list the many 'accrediting agencies' (there must be many if this is a 'widely' held consideration) that are on record as holding this official position.
Secondly, other than this Article or links from or quoting this Article, please furnish the reference that justifies that the site quoted below is the Official Website of Canterbury University of the Seychelles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theuglytruth ( talk • contribs) 20:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
We also have evidence from an article on a criminal case in Florida of a more generalized non-acceptance of CUotS degrees in the US:
Thanks for the feedback and please accept my apologies - I am still learning Wikipedia etiquette and techniques - I will get better with time.
Fair question.
My interest is that sometimes something grabs your interest - probably just like, for some reason, this has grabbed all of yours'. Specifically, I am drawn to instances where there is a discrepancy between what people think a situation is or should be, and what it actually is.
I also have ethical questions about what I consider to be an Accreditation Cartel in the US which is more about making money and plugging into Title IV Federal Funding than it is about program quality and developing relevant academic programs for a globalized and multi-media connected 21st Century. The result is a dangerous and reactionary set up that perpetuates the established (regardless of its relevance or usefulness) and stifles the innovative and new - regardless of its merits.
My concern is more about accreditation than Canterbury University of the Seychelles.
Please read my thought on this matter below.
My problems with this Wiki Article is not that it directs criticism at Canterbury University, but that it does so in an unbalanced way that is skewed towards negativity.
I do not have a problem with the diploma mill lable per se, I have a problem with an unfair diploma mill label.
According to my research, the diploma mill label first came about with the Oregon ODA. That was slavishly copied and quoted over time.
However, that claim was based on an overzealous application of an unconstitutional law which was repealed once it was challenged in the courts.
Since the law in Oregon was changed, the ODA limits itself to listing Canterbury University of the Seychelles as 'unaccredited' for the purposes of Oregon law.
I have no problem with that.
In fact it limits itself to that with literally hundreds of degree granting institutions that it defamed over the years.
I use the phrase 'defamed' accurately in that, as a result of legal action against the ODA, The Oregon Attorney General's office agreed to provide ODA personnel with a training session on defamation law.
SAMPLE REFERENCE: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20041221005728&newsLang=en dead link
Sources that quoted or misquoted ODA listings over the years have not been quick to publish retractions or amendments.
The question that I ask - in all honesty and I am not trying to be an apologist - if Canterbury University of the Seychelles ( or any other non-Oregon degree granting institution) an Oregon degree granting institution, then why mention its listing by the ODA.
That listing can only be relevant to Oregon residents. The legislation is specific to Oregon and has no force outside of Oregon. It therefore has no relevance outside of Oregon.
Oregon residents have access to the information.
A lighthearted aside would equate this to a Wiki Article on Smith and Wesson reporting that its handguns are illegal in London.
People in London know that. People in Oregon are not affected by the legislation in London and can happily purchase their Saturday Night Specials.
The reference to the ODA is, in my honest opinion, skewed to emphasize the negative.
It takes pains to mention that the list is "for the protection of the citizens of Oregon and their post-secondary schools by identifying those degree suppliers that do not meet the requirements of ORS 348.609(1)".[
That sounds impressively negative and whoever wrote it clearly did so with that intention.
However it fails make reference to 3 important fact listed in the same Reference, with a higher order or preference (i.e. listed first) which are:
1. The ODA makes the following prominent statement on its website:
PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE HAVE BECOME AWARE OF SOME QUESTIONS AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS DATABASE.
UNTIL THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, PLEASE DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS RESOURCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AN INSTITUTION IS PROPERLY ACCREDITED.
REFERENCE: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/accreditation.html
1. ODA approval does not mean that the degrees will be accepted by licensing agencies or employers
2. A degree from an institution listed as unaccredited by the ODA is perfectly legal for use in Oregon, provided the following Disclaimer is made: "(Name of school) does not have accreditation recognized by the United States Department of Education and has not been approved by the Office of Degree Authorization." ORS 348.609(2)(a).
REFERENCE: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.aspx
In the interests of fairness and neutrality, I think reference to the ODA is not relevant, but if it is considered relevant, then the above information should appear alogside it.
Theuglytruth ( talk) 22:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by the assertion that the URL http://www.canterburyuni.net/ is not working. I've accessed it several times in the last 12 hours, from two different United States IPs, on computers that did not have the website in the cache. Am I "special" -- or what? -- Orlady ( talk) 23:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Today it isn't working again. Very interesting, TUT, what is going on? Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 02:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking at the "university" website & noticing the insertion of the name "Canterbury University" by TM made me wonder whether the article's name was appropriate.
As far as I can make out:
There's a pattern emerging. Thoughts? -- Tagishsimon (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I enjoy working with everyone here. I even hope that Theuglytruth honors us with his presence again in the near future. Everytime I see your handle, TUT, I enjoy the irony and it tickles my funny bone. Thank you! TallMagic ( talk) 16:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
In the University of Canterbury article I found the following story.
In 1962 someone proposed changing the University's motto — a reference to the original endowment of land — to something more relevant. A cleric proposed "The Truth Shall Make You Free" (John 8:32), but Professor of Mathematics Derek Lawden, a noted atheist, asked: "But what if the truth should be that we are automata? Then we should not only be automata, but foolish automata." The motto retained its original wording.
I enjoyed it so, I had to share. Please forgive my off topic comment. TallMagic ( talk) 20:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The old URL wasn't working again. Today someone (an Anon) replaced the dead link with a another link. This new website doesn't mention Seychelles, at least not anywhere that I could find. Instead it has a Dublin Ireland address. Any thoughts or comments? Perhaps Theuglytruth could tell what the deal is? Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 21:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Canterbury University of today traces its history to the formation of The Canterbury College of Business Studies founded in England in 1974. It offered correspondence courses as a Private Degree Granting Body. When the law changed in England in 1988 regarding British Private Degree Granting Bodies, Canterbury College took the opportunity to internationalise its structure and programs and to acquire full 'University Status'.
Canterbury University has maintained its 'University Status' since then. After winning a crushing legal victory concerning the legality of its degrees in Florida in August 2009, Canterbury University was acquired by an international consortium of private colleges. In keeping with the international nature and requirements of the consortium the reliance on a single jurisdiction (The Republic of the Seychelles) for its legal existence was discontinued in January 2010 in favour of a framework of transnational and international incorporations, agreements and Trusts.
This continues to ensure a fully legal existence as a private degree granting institution but emphasises its interantional nature. Canterbury University degree programmes are fully compliant width all relevant international and transnational legislation, UK legislation (where it maintains the Office of the Registrar) and the norms outlined by the International Standards Organisation in EN ISO Model Standard 9001 of July 1994. Canterbury University has full legally established rights to the trade dress and nomenclature "Canterbury University" including intellectual property and copyrights established in that trade dress and nomenclature. It is independent of and unassociated with any other degree granting institutions around the world (of which there are several) that also happen to have "Canterbury" in their own trade dress or nomenclature.
Those interested in finding out more about Canterbury University, its degrees, innovative approaches to graduation, accreditation status and its Graduates, please visit Explicatus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I realise that the facts are cited and not under dispute, however there are major undue weight issues with this article. I have removed some of the OR/leading terms, and also removed some of the sources in an attempt to balance the article. The facts about the institution are pretty clear, but it does not have to be worded in a manner designed to promote a certain POV.
カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 08:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
I have readded two fragments. The first is "According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University is neither a recognised body for UK degree awards,[3] nor is it a listed body.[4]" which is directly relevant since the institution is or was run from the UK. The second is "Canterbury University is not accredited by any recognised accreditation body. As such, its degrees may not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions. [3]" It would be best if we could find a reference for the first sentence; the second is now referenced. We are seeking to provide a factual definition of the institution. The "not accredited" section goes to the heart of the facts of the institution. Just because it is a diploma mill does not mean we should shy away from pointing out that it is a diploma mill; it has nothing to do with undue weight and everything to do with identifying factually what the thing is (or isn't) and what the legal ramifications of that are.
That said, I think Sennen Goroshi's intervention has had the effect of improving the article, and so thanks are in order. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 19:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
A REASONABLE EDIT: I am attempting to introduce an unbiased view on this topic. It is important to be fair enough to introduce both sides of this issue, as both sides still clamor to be heard. Or has objectivity in reporting now died completely? Are we to only publish what we wish to be seen in an attempt to bias one side or another? I most assuredly hope that Wikipedia is big enough to objectively report all views in an reasoned manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 13:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Orlady: As I wrote in our discussion in "my talk":
Orlady, from reviewing the talk page, many other users have had similar concerns. If you feel that a further discussion of something which has not already been tackled is warranted, then you can certainly let me know. But unlike some people, I do not live at my computer, feverishly debating Wikipedia adjustments. I am happy to contribute to the discussion if you have a new insight? Perhaps you haven't read the entire discussion yet? I highly recommend it, and find that I agree with a great deal of it. I believe that it is not asking too much to demand an unbiased article which allows BOTH allegations/sides to the issue.
Bringing in others (such as Dynaflow) to do the dirty work for you (reverting the articles) still doesn't solve the problem of bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 14:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Dynaflow: I understand your position as well as Orlady's. I truly do. However, I am a freelance journalist. That doesn't mean that I'm necessarily The Expert in unbiased or frank journalism. But it DOES mean that I was trained to write an article that (hopefully) tackles the subject from an objective viewpoint. Please try to understand my position: Many people who have contributed to this article have an axe to grind. They show bias in one way or another. The article before I tackled it was naming it a diploma mill, and showed remarkable bias. Of course a bias in the other direction would be to completely ignore the controversy. But in all fairness, both sides should be presented without a slant in favor of either one.
Comparing my argument to an argument in favor of Hitler or Pol Pot is extremist at best, wouldn't you agree? I hope you rethink such biased commentary and realize that bias is evident throughout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audreetucker ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
1. What's the building that features in the website's banner?
2. Where is "130 Upper park Street, Dublin 4"? Google & Multimap seems to be having difficulties in locating the Dublin Campus. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 22:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Quick head's up. I've come across College of Cambridge, which looks like a diploma mill. If you collect such things, here's another. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 07:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
This user is not interested in fairness or honesty. There is a total lack of integity at this site due to biased troglodytes with an agenda to persue only negative views! signed cugraduate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.157.35 ( talk) 18:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The following paragraph was copied from above.
This is a quote from wikipedia-watchers.org(Another problem is that most of the administrators at Wikipedia prefer to exercise their police functions anonymously. The process itself is open, but the identities of the administrators are usually cloaked behind a username and a Gmail address. (Gmail does not show an originating IP address in the email headers, which means that you cannot geolocate the originator, or even know whether one administrator is really a different person than another administrator.) If an admin has a political or personal agenda, he can do a fair amount of damage with the special editing tools available to him. The victim may not even find out that this is happening until it's too late. From Wikipedia, the material is spread like a virus by search engines and other scrapers, and the damage is amplified by orders of magnitude. There is no recourse for the victim, and no one can be held accountable. Once it's all over the web, no one has the power to put it back into the bottle. ) There is nothing contrived, false-truth or negative about this stament. It simply puts into uperpective the purgerious effects of agenda biased,so-called contributions to public forums. In a Democracy all ideas are relevent. In a Cummunist state do you find single ideas and opinions. I didn't know where else to put this, so if this is the wrong place I apologize. I never posted anything that wasn't factual and public record. Yet, I can't help but notice that "opinions" are widely accepted here as fact. Thank you, cugraduate (Clarion University) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cugraduate ( talk • contribs) 14:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Cugraduate added the following to the article but it was properly deleted. "PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE HAVE BECOME AWARE OF SOME QUESTIONS AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS DATABASE.
UNTIL THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, PLEASE DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS RESOURCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AN INSTITUTION IS PROPERLY ACCREDITED."
Here's the link to the above. [3] Please note that the above is referring to the list of properly accredited schools on the government website. NOT to the list of unaccredited schools on the ODA website. The implication in the properly reverted edits was that the above statements somehow mitagated the fact that CU is on the ODA list. This is an incorrect understanding. Cugraduates, I hope that this explanation sheds some light on the situation as to why your edits had to be reverted. Thanks, TallMagic ( talk) 00:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a difference between Canterbury University Cheshire and that of the Seychelles... the other is accredited and legal —Preceding unsigned comment added by Educationfirst ( talk • contribs) 00:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The recent (August 2009) Florida case involving City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D. a graduate of Canterbury University was dismissed for more than just the fact that his job did not require a degree or that "conduct in which the accused was alleged to have engaged was not prohibited by statute" as the article suggests but that he was not guilty as he did nothing wrong. In fact the court decision actually stated that Canterbury University although unaccredited was a legal entity under the laws of the Republic of the Seychelles and therefore allowed to grant degrees within their own jurisdiction. It also restated a known fact that the US has no jurisdiction over foreign institutions and that "accreditation" is not a mandatory requirement of education. It did reaffirm the right however of states or organizations to set policy on acceptance of credentials but this was not the issue in this case. The primary issue with the case was the poorly worded legal brief attacking Dr. Tramel based on a law that had already been deemed unconstitutional from the state supreme court and the supposition that his degree was illegal. The last point was under direct evidence submitted, proven to be wrong as the Canterbury University of the Seychelles is a recognized operating company duly and legitimately operating under the laws of the Republic of the Seychelles as a educational institution and therefore allowed to grant degrees. As a point of Reference the Republic has no Department or Ministry of Education so I was unable to find anyone legally, officially and directly responsible for the oversight of education. The initial legal point also broke the foundation of the case. I would suggest that you include several links about this case and correct the inaccuracies in your update.
Suggested links: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/marianna-fl/TT0LIQSF13I8L3H7Q and http://www.pr-inside.com/florida-first-amendment-legal-victory-r1518054.htm are good starting points. The court transcript as far as I know has not yet been put on line but it is public information. Jaringtn ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} You must include this link in order to update and be fear with Canterbury University and shows respect to their graduated people from all over the world.
Qwertypress ( talk) 07:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Clearly an attempt by someone to avoid showing that "accreditation" is in the eye of the beholder. if the university has a legal right to provide degree granting credentials then it should be acknowledged. My degree that cost me $60,000 over 4 years carries no more or less weight, except that I was able to obtain specific grants that are not available to students of non-US Dept. of ED (voluntary) accredited institutions. This entire WIK page seems to be an attempt to defame an private degree granting institution from it's UK 1988 Reform Act privileges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Canterbury University ]], [1]
I'm not quite sure what you're asking for. Can you please clarify? Thanks! --
{{editsemiprotected}} http://www.einnews.com/pr-news/48220-florida-first-amendment-legal-victory-for-canterbury-university-smashes-accreditation-myths- FLORIDA - First Amendment legal victory for Canterbury University smashes Accreditation Myths.
/EIN Presswire/ For two years, former Sneads City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D., a graduate of Canterbury University, has fought to clear his name and confirm the bona fides of his credentials. Justice was finally done on August 26 in the 14th Judicial Circuit Court when Judge William L. Wright dismissed all charges against him after the Prosecution was forced to admit that his degrees were perfectly legal.
The hearing took just 27 minutes during which every facet of the State's case against Dr. Tramel collapsed. Dr. Tramel's degrees from Canterbury University (which is legally incorporated in the Seychelles and has an office in Hyde, Cheshire, UK) do not have accreditation recognized by the US Department of Education which is voluntary and is not possible anyway because the Secretary of Education is prevented by statute from accrediting foreign degrees, institutions or programs.
He was charged under Florida Statute 817.567 which had been previously struck down as an unconstitutional violation of First Amendment rights in Samuel Bartow Strange, III v. Michael Satz and Saavedra v. State of Florida,
"People don't understand accreditation" explained Dr. Tramel, referring to the report "Can College Accreditation Live Up to Its Promise?" by George Leef and Roxana Burris for the American Council of Trustees and Alumni. "People think it is compulsory when it's voluntary. They think it's a warranty of degree quality which it's not. It allows access to Title IV Federal Tax Dollars and academic freedom restricted to what the Federal Government dictates. I believe access to academic programs independent of Government finance and interference is an essential factor in a free society."
Judge William L. Wright agreed the law had been unconstitutionally applied, dismissed all charges and wished Jerry Tramel good luck, days before the conclusion of another long running Florida case in which Naples Police Officers Joe Popka and Drew McGregor were similarly vindicated over their use of unaccredited degrees.
"I lost my job over this." Veteran Tramel points out, "But nobody involved in the investigation or prosecution of this case remains in the employ of the State Attorney's Office. I have been advised that I can expect substantial compensation for being put through this terrible ordeal, which my wife and I have endured to clear my own name and to make a stand for academic freedom for every Citizen of this great State and this great Country."
-- 69.125.70.161, 14:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I added some information about the conclusion of the case to the article, citing a newspaper article that is essentially the same as this piece. -- Orlady ( talk) 14:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
FLORIDA - First Amendment legal victory for Canterbury University smashes Accreditation Myths.
/EIN Presswire/ For two years, former Sneads City Manager Jerry G. Tramel Ph.D., a graduate of Canterbury University, has fought to clear his name and confirm the bona fides of his credentials. Justice was finally done on August 26 in the 14th Judicial Circuit Court when Judge William L. Wright dismissed all charges against him after the Prosecution was forced to admit that his degrees were perfectly legal.
The hearing took just 27 minutes during which every facet of the State's case against Dr. Tramel collapsed. Dr. Tramel's degrees from Canterbury University (which is legally incorporated in the Seychelles and has an office in Hyde, Cheshire, UK) do not have accreditation recognized by the US Department of Education which is voluntary and is not possible anyway because the Secretary of Education is prevented by statute from accrediting foreign degrees, institutions or programs.
He was charged under Florida Statute 817.567 which had been previously struck down as an unconstitutional violation of First Amendment rights in Samuel Bartow Strange, III v. Michael Satz and Saavedra v. State of Florida,
"People don't understand accreditation" explained Dr. Tramel, referring to the report "Can College Accreditation Live Up to Its Promise?" by George Leef and Roxana Burris for the American Council of Trustees and Alumni. "People think it is compulsory when it's voluntary. They think it's a warranty of degree quality which it's not. It allows access to Title IV Federal Tax Dollars and academic freedom restricted to what the Federal Government dictates. I believe access to academic programs independent of Government finance and interference is an essential factor in a free society."
Judge William L. Wright agreed the law had been unconstitutionally applied, dismissed all charges and wished Jerry Tramel good luck, days before the conclusion of another long running Florida case in which Naples Police Officers Joe Popka and Drew McGregor were similarly vindicated over their use of unaccredited degrees.
"I lost my job over this." Veteran Tramel points out, "But nobody involved in the investigation or prosecution of this case remains in the employ of the State Attorney's Office. I have been advised that I can expect substantial compensation for being put through this terrible ordeal, which my wife and I have endured to clear my own name and to make a stand for academic freedom for every Citizen of this great State and this great Country." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.70.161 ( talk) 11:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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Canterbury University is an accredited]],</ref>
private, degree-granting institution.
Its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses.Cite error: A <ref>
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[1], Canterbury University is accredited by higher education accreditation organizations recognized by the
United States Department of Education and
Council for Higher Education Accreditation.
76453smile ( talk) 00:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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Canterbury University is an accredited,</ref> private, degree-granting institution. Its website, Canterbury University was established in 1974 in Hyde-Cheshire, Manchester, United Kingdom and is an independent university that delivers various specialized scientific courses. [1]
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According to the British Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, Canterbury University is a recognised body for UK degree awards, [1] Its degrees may be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may not be restricted.
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Actually, their accreditation is governed under the reform act of 1988 to which they conform. They are legally permitted to issue such degrees by reference of that specific act.
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199.67.140.56 ( talk) 08:34, 30 November 2012 (UTC) this false valid higher education university , offering post graduate program online and through postal , based in united kingdom
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Canterbury University claims accreditation from the United Congress of Colleges (UCC) of Arklow, Ireland. Martyn Pink ( talk) 09:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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The information provided is outdated, this university is now recognized in over 86 countries. For additional information please visit http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/
64.134.176.45 ( talk) 15:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
You are talking about the University of Canterbury in New Zealand. This page is about an entirely different entity. The top of this page has a "not to be confused with" notice. Is that notice not sufficiently prominent? -- Orlady ( talk) 16:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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The whole article has posed as a harsh kick in the balls from my employer. I attended this school and obtained a LEGAL degree. A study that took me 3 years, and now I had to contact my academic supervisor from two years ago, confirm attendance, get transcripts, get a hand-written letter from the dean just because someone wrote that it sells degrees through some mill site? ..
Where is the proof? Please correct the information given.
(1)I will quote a news article saying: "It is important to note that neither of these qualification providers operates illegally; their degrees are clearly acceptable", written by George Brown; PhD - www.HigherEdConsulting.com.au.
This has created allot of problems for me, as I am forced to prove my bachelors degree, which in fact had already been verified and accepted by the institution that granted me my masters.
I have several articles regarding court judges granting verification to this school in U.S cases. The degrees are legal, and this article is just slander, and mocking of the great online education brought to us by the advantages of the internet.
(2) Some other people reacting to the slander. These have also attended the school and earned a degree legally.
Shame on you, and all others that say online education is a fraud.
(1) http://www.wes.org/ewenr/05oct/feature.htm (2) http://online.degree.net/accredited-unaccredited-state-approved-diploma-mill/t-canterbury-university-1310.html
Abi90no ( talk) 13:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Accreditation according to website: http://canterburyuniversity.wordpress.com/about/
UCC ACCREDITATION: Legal Status in good standing, Private, Specifically Incorporated Level Institution at The United Congress of Colleges, Dr K..Stevens UCC(Europe), 77 Avalon Crescent, Co Wicklow, Republic of Ireland (Eire).
UCC ACCREDITED DEGREE DISCIPLINES: Arts, Sciences, Philosophy, Business Administration, Commerce, Laws, Letters, Literature, Music, Theology, Education and Divinity.
ACADEMY SCOPE: “To provide courses and training schemes in all Curriculum activities and educational activities.
CANTERBURY UNIVERSITY: International Standard Organization EN ISO Model 9001
GRADUATE VERIFICATION: Mandatory student written signed consent letter for verification request presented by third parties only by mail addressed to : The Registrar, Graduate Service Office, 193 Market Street, Hyde, SK141HF, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
Cloudmichael ( talk) 04:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
There was an article Canterbury University Online which was clearly attempting to describe the same entity as this one. Both included citing the same court case on Florida. Both also included describing a so-called "Hyde-Cheshire"... which doesn't exist. (There is a Hyde, Greater Manchester, formerly known as Hyde, Cheshire. I presume is what they mean; their common use of the entirely made-up word "Hyde-Cheshire" also demonstrates their commonality.)
So I have converted that article into a redirect towards this one. I hope that was appropriate. Editors here may also wish to add that article (now a redirect) to their watch lists, just in case someone tries to re-instate it.
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The article is inaccurate. References 1,5,6,7,8 and 10 are dead and don't support the claims in the article. The school is not completely "unaccredited" since it is "accredited" by UCC link http://canterburyuniversity.wordpress.com/about/. I'm not saying its accreditation is acceptable by the UK or US, but I am pointing out that this article is incorrect, outdated, and the reference links are dead. It should point out that it is an actual accredited university but identify the other problems with it with proper references. This is important because the "shorthand" claim that it was not a school and not accredited is what caused the case against Tramel to be dismissed. I hope the state attorney didn't use the wiki listing for data. Lewiscypher ( talk) 18:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
My brother got a degree at the university, according to him, tells me that he obtained studying in virtual form, this provided me the link canterburyuniversity.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aderiver ( talk • contribs) 15:07, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Up til now, they've been listed as being associated with Instantdegrees.com, which (I gather) makes them useless as an educational institution. Has this changed? These edits seem to indicate that they are now a regular university. Is this true? This would be major change. The source is their website, and their website is not a neutral source, and even then it doesn't say anything about their being accredited -- it just says that accreditation is a slippery concept, which is no kind of answer. They still do not have an actual campus and so forth and it seems as if nothing has changed, and on that basis I've redacted the material.
I reached out to lastglad on his talk page but this didn't seem to help. Let us not edit war but rather Lastglad is invited to present his case here. -- Herostratus ( talk) 01:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
The news of 26th February 2013... Lancaster, Pennsylvania, a woman was legally sued for something about CU, she was accused of having bought something, but... It says, in that article, "such school doesn't exist". What the? It is a big mistake. It's unaccredited but it DOES exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.25.232.1 ( talk) 16:52, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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Santoluciano ( talk) 04:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC) Canterbury University (Seychelles) is currently semi-protected and can be edited only by established registered users.
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The official website of the university is http://www.canterburyuniversity.com
Students can access virtual platform to present their courses ( http://canterburyuniversity.com/virtual_campus/), as anyone can check whether a title is actually issued by the university ( http://canterburyuniversity.com/site/grades/web_verify)
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Homvi (
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09:32, 9 July 2016 (UTC)This is the new website of Canterbury University :
http://www.canterburyuniversity.com
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Homvi ( talk) 08:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I have the adress of canterbury University website: http://canterburyuniversity.com/site/
Many Thanks
Noted but not corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PWAbernathy ( talk • contribs) 17:02, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I don't understand why Canterbury University must be accredited by the US Department of Education, when it is NOT a US University! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduzone1 ( talk • contribs) 19:11, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
"Concerns have been raised regarding the paragraph discussing the dismissal and subsequent charges against the former city manager of a Florida municipality, as well as the fraudulent use of a fake Canterbury University diploma by an individual in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. The current references in the Wikipedia article do not appear to be directly related to the subject matter and may not effectively support the claims made in the paragraph. Additionally, the tone of the paragraph could be perceived as demeaning towards Canterbury University. Therefore, it is recommended that these references and the paragraph itself be reviewed and revised to ensure accuracy, neutrality, and adherence to Wikipedia's content guidelines."
About the 9th reference ( I have attached the web archive link here) (a subscription is required on the main website)
The news website says the following:
“According to Sneads attorney Guy Green at the time the resulting information was presented to the town council, it appears that the degrees listed on his job application allegedly came from a “diploma mill” rather than a legitimate school of higher learning.”
There is absolutely no evidence to support the claim that it is a "diploma mill." Snead's attorney made this assertion, and the news reporter repeated it and someone published it on Wikipedia. However, it is merely an assumption without any proof.
But in the 11th reference ( Web archive link
here )( a subscription is required on the main website) The same news website of the reference 9th printed the following:
“
In the court file, a letter from Canterbury University states that, while it is not an institution credited by the U.S. Department of Education, it does indeed exist.
Such accreditation is voluntary, the school’s representative pointed out, and is not necessary for the existence of the school.
The institution confirmed that Tramel does possess the degrees he claims to have from the university.
Further, the representative wrote, as a foreign school, it could not obtain U.S. accreditation even if it wished to do so.
Wilson explained why he believes the charge related to Tramel’s claim of an academic degree was dropped.
“If Mr. Tramel had said that he held a Ph.D. or B.Sc. from FSU, and he in fact did not, then he could be charged. But that is not what he did. Mr. Tramel claimed to hold a degree from Canterbury University, which is an online ‘diploma mill,’” Wilson said. “Mr. Tramel does in fact have the paperwork from this ‘diploma mill’ and is allowed to say he has it. .., The fact remains that his claim to have a Ph.D, although technically true, is purposely meant to deceive people into believing that it was a degree earned through a studious education which imparted knowledge on the recipient, in contrast to a title which was actually purchased.”
”
The charges were dropped because the legitimacy of the degree was established. Even in the news it says that the Canterbury University Authority confirmed the authenticity of the degree, solidifying the fact that the university is legitimate and not a “diploma mill”. It is crucial to note that the attorney, Wilson, held a belief or assumption that the university was a diploma mill, which was then reported by the news. However, it is important to emphasize that he had no evidence to support this belief. Moreover, since the charges were dropped, this aspect becomes irrelevant to the subject, and the claim that the university is a diploma mill is untrue. Additionally, there is no substantial information found in the 10th reference. It appears that someone intentionally attempted to defame the university in the Wikipedia article.
In the second part of the paragraph on Degree recipients, it says “A woman was charged with fraud using a diploma from Canterbury University to get counseling jobs.”
In the 12th reference ( web archive link here) (a subscription is required on the main website) I have found two other news sources containing the same text as the reference 12th. Here are the links: Link 1 and Link 2 all the news says the same as following:
“Prosecutors say Faherty paid England-based Canterbury University for a college diploma, with master's degree certifications, but that it turns out no such school exists. Authorities say she used the fraudulent credentials to bolster her resume, working for TeamCare Behavioral Health of Lancaster and Pennsylvania Counseling Services Inc. in Lebanon from 2007 to 2009.”
The assertion made by the prosecutors that there was no such school is invalid and misleading. The university in question is legitimate and does exist. However, it is important to note that in the same news report, the authorities confirmed that the accused individual had indeed forged the document using the name of Canterbury University. This raises a compelling argument: if the university were truly a "diploma mill," wouldn't the focus be on the institution itself rather than solely on the fake document? This strongly suggests that the institution is not a diploma mill and is indeed a legitimate university. Furthermore, it is crucial to recognize that this story has no direct relevance to the university. It is possible for anyone to fabricate documents using the names of various universities. Therefore, this aspect should also be disregarded and removed from consideration.
The degree recipients section has no relevance and unjustly damages the reputation of the University. It was created falsely with the intention to defame the University.
(Note: For the web archive links, please stop loading the webpage as soon as it shows the content of the page. If you don't do that you will be shown the subscription page of the main websites.)
I am seeking the attention of Wikipedia administrators to address this issue. Darukaka ( talk) 06:50, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
In the recognition section the 7,8 and 4th references are too much old and not even state the name of this University. So this is to be removed.
The article needs to be reconstructed. Darukaka ( talk) 05:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)