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Is there a reason I'm not aware of that the link to the Internation Candlepin Bowling Association (ICBA) was removed and replaced with a link to the Western New England Candlepin Association? The ICBA is the larger group, more inclusive of the subject as a whole, and generally regarded as the authority on candlepin rules, standards, and certification. If there's no argument, I'm going to restore the link. Thanks! Mary quite contrary 19:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
who keeps removing the dmoz link? they are using an ip address and don't appear to be editing any other articles, at least from there. what do we do about this? while I'm on the topic, shouldn't that link go to the dmoz directory page instead of the faq? The faq isn't big; we could probably incorporate any info that it has that we don't already have... -- Akb4 08:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I have pulled the section "World Candlepin Bowling", which presented the top teams of 2006 and 2007.
The problem is that the league is not identified; some web searching implies that the A+ Accounting team was competing in "Oland's Commercial Men's Pro League" (
[1]). It's unclear to me how many leagues there are, how many categories within them (men's, women's, team, individual), and how wikipedia handles sports results, but I'm pretty sure that just listing two winning teams from a not clearly identified and described league isn't a great plan. This article is also getting pretty long, so if we're going to include results, they probably should get their own article. Here's the content I pulled:
The 2006 World Candlepin Bowling Champions from Nova Scotia
The 2007 World Candlepin Bowling Champions
-- Akb4 06:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
In Maine, I don't think I've ever heard the term "wood" used without "dead" in front of it. Felled pins are "dead wood". Is this different elsewhere? Or should all occurrences of "wood" be changed to "dead wood"? 12:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.204.183.50 ( talk)
These were removed by me (THREE TIMES) as they do not fall in any common vernacular and/or candlepin slang of which I'm aware. If you have proof they're widely used, I'd like to see it. PLEASE DO NOT ADD THEM IN AGAIN...THEY ARE NOT COMMON SLANG TERMS. Questions? I can answer them: webmaster@candlepingallery.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candlepinbruce ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
These were removed by me today, July 18, 2008. They do not fall into any common vernacular and/or candlepin slang of which I'm aware. STOP POSTING THESE TERMS!!!!!!!!!! Questions: webmaster@candlepingallery.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candlepinbruce ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
These seem to keep on getting added and removed. I've marked them as disputed for now, but really if someone thinks they should be there, there should be a source for them. (And really, there should be sources for other items in the list, and for many other things in the article.) -- PeterCooperJr ( talk) 11:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
About 20 years ago, I visited my grandparents in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. While I was there, I wanted to experience some candlepin bowling (I'm a ten-pin bowler myself from Hawaii.) I had a lot of fun, and wanted to tell my friends and bowling colleagues about it back at home. I asked the manager where I could purchase a ball and candlepin, so that I can take it back with me. He said I wasn't allowed to purchase either items. His reason was that candlepin enthusiasts want to keep the sport as-is, and did not want the sport - as I adlib what his intent was - to spread to Hawaii and become a common sport like ten-pin bowling. I haven't ran into anyone involved with candlepin bowling ever since. Is this elite-like attitude a common thing among candlepin enthusiasts? Or, was it just his own personal preference? I always wondered about that. I didn't read about anything regarding the sport becoming mainstream, so that's why I'm asking here. Groink ( talk) 10:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I wish someone had video from the Candlepin Superbowl so my point could be proven. I constantly see edits that split the words up, when in fact WCVB spelled it as one word (to avoid litigation from the NFL). I have been to tapings of the Superbowl, and the banner they placed at the end of the lanes (which they used to display until their shows moved to the Fairway) had "superbowl" spelled as one word. -- EmiOfBrie ( talk) 04:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The article suggests that Justin White invented the game before Ten Pin, but some histories suggest that Ten Pin was well underway before Candlepin. http://www.ryanfamily.com/ryanhistory.html says Candlepin was invented as a more challenging alternative to Ten Pins, while http://www.bowlcandlepin.com/history.htm suggests that White's version of candlepin was inspired by other pins he found in the bowling center he just bought (meaning that someone earlier was already on the Candlepin track?)
I'm not particularly passionate about one version of history over another, but the article currently makes it a development race between Candlepin and Ten Pin, and the histories out there don't support that version of events.
funchords ( talk) 21:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
"the pins are thinner, and thus harder to knock down"
Has this been verified by research?
ISTM there are factors contributing both ways to the difficulty of knocking down pins. Making it easier:
Making it harder:
— Smjg ( talk) 12:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
I am from Lac-St-Jean and I have never seen this here... nor ever heard of it. Has anyone in Quebec actually seen it played anywhere? 69.9.97.207 ( talk) 11:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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I have removed the claim that it's played in Germany and California because: (a) The quoted website is gone (and using wayback machine reveals that that page, too, only said "played in such diverse places as California and Hanover Germany." ( https://web.archive.org/web/20150510122621/http://www.ficcosbowl.com/about_candlepin.html), with no further proof. (b) I found no other references about such a game being available in Germany. (c) I am German, and while I've seen and played plenty of Bowling and Kegel (9 pin) alleys, I've never heard of Candlepin alleys over here. Therefore, the claim it's played in Germany is far fetched. Maybe there is one place in Germany that has it, but it's not as if it's common over here, to the point that it should be suggested like that in this article, as it did. Tempel ( talk) 15:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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I propose that the section Television broadcasts be split into a separate page called Candlepin bowling on television. The section is large enough and notable enough to make its own page. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 15:34, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
So I've noticed two methods for marking a strike or spare on a scoresheet:
Method 1 (examples http://www.bowlnh.com/how_to_score.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AbbdIR3KwA)
Example: Get a spare, on the next ball you get 4 pins. Mark the box with triangle in upper left corner, fill with 4. This is what I did in the svg since it's what I've seen and what I've always done. This is also what the description seems to suggest.
However, since then, I've noticed the following:
Method 2 (examples http://www.mainecandlepinbowling.com/scoring.htm, http://www.masscandlepin.com/basics.html) (actually they use the same example)
Example: Get a spare, on the next ball you get 4 pins. Mark the box with triangle in upper left corner, write 14 instead. But I've personally never seen this done. Has anybody seen this? Bitethesilverbullet ( talk) 01:37, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
After reading the "fouling" section of the article, then when I started reading the "scoring" section, I felt like it was repeating what I obviously already had learned from reading the "fouling" section.
It seems to me like it would make more sense to provide basic scoring first (that is, scoring in the absence of any fouls), and subsequently to explain how fouls affect scoring.
I'm not offering to make this change, just observing that it seems kind of peculiar in its current form. Fabrickator ( talk) 16:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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The article Ten-pin bowling is currently undergoing a peer review to bring it up to featured article status. As others who are interested in bowling, I invite you to leave your comments-- Danaman5 04:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reason I'm not aware of that the link to the Internation Candlepin Bowling Association (ICBA) was removed and replaced with a link to the Western New England Candlepin Association? The ICBA is the larger group, more inclusive of the subject as a whole, and generally regarded as the authority on candlepin rules, standards, and certification. If there's no argument, I'm going to restore the link. Thanks! Mary quite contrary 19:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
who keeps removing the dmoz link? they are using an ip address and don't appear to be editing any other articles, at least from there. what do we do about this? while I'm on the topic, shouldn't that link go to the dmoz directory page instead of the faq? The faq isn't big; we could probably incorporate any info that it has that we don't already have... -- Akb4 08:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I have pulled the section "World Candlepin Bowling", which presented the top teams of 2006 and 2007.
The problem is that the league is not identified; some web searching implies that the A+ Accounting team was competing in "Oland's Commercial Men's Pro League" (
[1]). It's unclear to me how many leagues there are, how many categories within them (men's, women's, team, individual), and how wikipedia handles sports results, but I'm pretty sure that just listing two winning teams from a not clearly identified and described league isn't a great plan. This article is also getting pretty long, so if we're going to include results, they probably should get their own article. Here's the content I pulled:
The 2006 World Candlepin Bowling Champions from Nova Scotia
The 2007 World Candlepin Bowling Champions
-- Akb4 06:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
In Maine, I don't think I've ever heard the term "wood" used without "dead" in front of it. Felled pins are "dead wood". Is this different elsewhere? Or should all occurrences of "wood" be changed to "dead wood"? 12:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.204.183.50 ( talk)
These were removed by me (THREE TIMES) as they do not fall in any common vernacular and/or candlepin slang of which I'm aware. If you have proof they're widely used, I'd like to see it. PLEASE DO NOT ADD THEM IN AGAIN...THEY ARE NOT COMMON SLANG TERMS. Questions? I can answer them: webmaster@candlepingallery.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candlepinbruce ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
These were removed by me today, July 18, 2008. They do not fall into any common vernacular and/or candlepin slang of which I'm aware. STOP POSTING THESE TERMS!!!!!!!!!! Questions: webmaster@candlepingallery.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candlepinbruce ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
These seem to keep on getting added and removed. I've marked them as disputed for now, but really if someone thinks they should be there, there should be a source for them. (And really, there should be sources for other items in the list, and for many other things in the article.) -- PeterCooperJr ( talk) 11:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
About 20 years ago, I visited my grandparents in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. While I was there, I wanted to experience some candlepin bowling (I'm a ten-pin bowler myself from Hawaii.) I had a lot of fun, and wanted to tell my friends and bowling colleagues about it back at home. I asked the manager where I could purchase a ball and candlepin, so that I can take it back with me. He said I wasn't allowed to purchase either items. His reason was that candlepin enthusiasts want to keep the sport as-is, and did not want the sport - as I adlib what his intent was - to spread to Hawaii and become a common sport like ten-pin bowling. I haven't ran into anyone involved with candlepin bowling ever since. Is this elite-like attitude a common thing among candlepin enthusiasts? Or, was it just his own personal preference? I always wondered about that. I didn't read about anything regarding the sport becoming mainstream, so that's why I'm asking here. Groink ( talk) 10:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I wish someone had video from the Candlepin Superbowl so my point could be proven. I constantly see edits that split the words up, when in fact WCVB spelled it as one word (to avoid litigation from the NFL). I have been to tapings of the Superbowl, and the banner they placed at the end of the lanes (which they used to display until their shows moved to the Fairway) had "superbowl" spelled as one word. -- EmiOfBrie ( talk) 04:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The article suggests that Justin White invented the game before Ten Pin, but some histories suggest that Ten Pin was well underway before Candlepin. http://www.ryanfamily.com/ryanhistory.html says Candlepin was invented as a more challenging alternative to Ten Pins, while http://www.bowlcandlepin.com/history.htm suggests that White's version of candlepin was inspired by other pins he found in the bowling center he just bought (meaning that someone earlier was already on the Candlepin track?)
I'm not particularly passionate about one version of history over another, but the article currently makes it a development race between Candlepin and Ten Pin, and the histories out there don't support that version of events.
funchords ( talk) 21:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
"the pins are thinner, and thus harder to knock down"
Has this been verified by research?
ISTM there are factors contributing both ways to the difficulty of knocking down pins. Making it easier:
Making it harder:
— Smjg ( talk) 12:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
I am from Lac-St-Jean and I have never seen this here... nor ever heard of it. Has anyone in Quebec actually seen it played anywhere? 69.9.97.207 ( talk) 11:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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I have removed the claim that it's played in Germany and California because: (a) The quoted website is gone (and using wayback machine reveals that that page, too, only said "played in such diverse places as California and Hanover Germany." ( https://web.archive.org/web/20150510122621/http://www.ficcosbowl.com/about_candlepin.html), with no further proof. (b) I found no other references about such a game being available in Germany. (c) I am German, and while I've seen and played plenty of Bowling and Kegel (9 pin) alleys, I've never heard of Candlepin alleys over here. Therefore, the claim it's played in Germany is far fetched. Maybe there is one place in Germany that has it, but it's not as if it's common over here, to the point that it should be suggested like that in this article, as it did. Tempel ( talk) 15:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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I propose that the section Television broadcasts be split into a separate page called Candlepin bowling on television. The section is large enough and notable enough to make its own page. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 15:34, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
So I've noticed two methods for marking a strike or spare on a scoresheet:
Method 1 (examples http://www.bowlnh.com/how_to_score.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AbbdIR3KwA)
Example: Get a spare, on the next ball you get 4 pins. Mark the box with triangle in upper left corner, fill with 4. This is what I did in the svg since it's what I've seen and what I've always done. This is also what the description seems to suggest.
However, since then, I've noticed the following:
Method 2 (examples http://www.mainecandlepinbowling.com/scoring.htm, http://www.masscandlepin.com/basics.html) (actually they use the same example)
Example: Get a spare, on the next ball you get 4 pins. Mark the box with triangle in upper left corner, write 14 instead. But I've personally never seen this done. Has anybody seen this? Bitethesilverbullet ( talk) 01:37, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
After reading the "fouling" section of the article, then when I started reading the "scoring" section, I felt like it was repeating what I obviously already had learned from reading the "fouling" section.
It seems to me like it would make more sense to provide basic scoring first (that is, scoring in the absence of any fouls), and subsequently to explain how fouls affect scoring.
I'm not offering to make this change, just observing that it seems kind of peculiar in its current form. Fabrickator ( talk) 16:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)