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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Caledonia Township, Illinois → Caledonia Township, Boone County, Illinois – This move would restore the county name to be WP:CONSISTENT with the form used for articles about townships in Illinois (see Category:Townships in Illinois). The county was removed without discussion in February 2020, but per the US minor civil divisions guidance "any change in convention should be determined on a statewide basis". I'm not currently aware of any reason why this township should be titled differently than others in the state. ( Original request.) ╠╣uw [ talk 13:01, 26 November 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
That said, if you think the titles of all articles on townships should follow a different form than they currently do, that's perfectly fine — but per the instructions at WP:PLACE that's something that should be handled at the state level for greater visibility and consensus. If that's something you think should be debated then I recommend going ahead and opening an RFC at WikiProject Illinois on this, or I can if you prefer.
Briefly: though I'm not equally familiar with every state, I know that for Midwestern ones like Illinois the county name has long been retained in part because townships are very closely identified with the counties they subdivide and are most naturally titled as such (just as we always include the state even for uniquely-named counties). For example, see reliable sources like the US Census, ACS Census Reporter, etc.
It's also partly that township names are unusually repetitive, more so than other placenames, and as such many would require the county to be included even under minimal disambiguation. ( Ash Grove is not the only such township in Illinois with a duplicated name: there's also Auburn, Banner, Bear Creek, Benton, Blue Mound, Brooklyn, Browning, Burton, Cincinnati, Clayton, Concord, Douglas, East Fork, Essex, Florence, Foster, Fox, Frankfort, Freedom, Grant, Greene, Greenwood, Groveland, Hanover, Harlem, Honey Creek, Jackson, Johnson, Kansas, Lafayette, Lee, Liberty, Limestone, Lynn, Maine, Manlius, Marion, Martin, May, Melrose, Montgomery, Mound, New Salem, Orange, Otter Creek, Penn, Pilot, Prairie, Raymond, Richland, Riverside, Ross, Rural, Rutland, Salem, Saratoga, Scott, Seward, Sullivan, Sumner, Union, Wade, Walnut Grove, Warren, Washington, West, Westfield, Wheatland, Woodland, Worth, and York, all of which appear at least twice and sometimes three or even four times over. Since many titles would still need the county name even under minimal disambiguation, applying it to all helps produce a set that's predictable and in a single form.) ╠╣uw [ talk 18:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Caledonia Township, Illinois → Caledonia Township, Boone County, Illinois – This move would restore the county name to be WP:CONSISTENT with the form used for articles about townships in Illinois (see Category:Townships in Illinois). The county was removed without discussion in February 2020, but per the US minor civil divisions guidance "any change in convention should be determined on a statewide basis". I'm not currently aware of any reason why this township should be titled differently than others in the state. ( Original request.) ╠╣uw [ talk 13:01, 26 November 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
That said, if you think the titles of all articles on townships should follow a different form than they currently do, that's perfectly fine — but per the instructions at WP:PLACE that's something that should be handled at the state level for greater visibility and consensus. If that's something you think should be debated then I recommend going ahead and opening an RFC at WikiProject Illinois on this, or I can if you prefer.
Briefly: though I'm not equally familiar with every state, I know that for Midwestern ones like Illinois the county name has long been retained in part because townships are very closely identified with the counties they subdivide and are most naturally titled as such (just as we always include the state even for uniquely-named counties). For example, see reliable sources like the US Census, ACS Census Reporter, etc.
It's also partly that township names are unusually repetitive, more so than other placenames, and as such many would require the county to be included even under minimal disambiguation. ( Ash Grove is not the only such township in Illinois with a duplicated name: there's also Auburn, Banner, Bear Creek, Benton, Blue Mound, Brooklyn, Browning, Burton, Cincinnati, Clayton, Concord, Douglas, East Fork, Essex, Florence, Foster, Fox, Frankfort, Freedom, Grant, Greene, Greenwood, Groveland, Hanover, Harlem, Honey Creek, Jackson, Johnson, Kansas, Lafayette, Lee, Liberty, Limestone, Lynn, Maine, Manlius, Marion, Martin, May, Melrose, Montgomery, Mound, New Salem, Orange, Otter Creek, Penn, Pilot, Prairie, Raymond, Richland, Riverside, Ross, Rural, Rutland, Salem, Saratoga, Scott, Seward, Sullivan, Sumner, Union, Wade, Walnut Grove, Warren, Washington, West, Westfield, Wheatland, Woodland, Worth, and York, all of which appear at least twice and sometimes three or even four times over. Since many titles would still need the county name even under minimal disambiguation, applying it to all helps produce a set that's predictable and in a single form.) ╠╣uw [ talk 18:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)