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As of this date, the content of this article depends on the translation of 2 Spanish phrases. I am not adequately versed in Spanish to do justice to these. The phrases are, I believe, somewhat idiomatic and should be translated by someone truly fluent in both Spanish and English. They are: "los criterios técnicos-deportivos" and the team motto "un equipo para creer, un equipo para crecer."
In particular, the first half of the motto may mean a "team to believe in" or it may also mean "a team that believes in itself" or may intentionally ambiguously mean both which would be harder to capture in an English phrase that still has the cadence of a pithy motto. Can anyone help with this subtlety of translation? Thanks.
Transonic Crayon (
talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
From publicly available information it is not clear whether the professional team is sponsored by the whole of Grupo Caja Rural or by Caja Rural de Nevarra, one of the Grupo's member banks that is located in Pamplona. Few articles dwell on this distinction. It may be that the professional teams are Grupo sponsored and the amateur teams are sponsored by CR de Nevarra, either explicitly or as a matter of practice. Can anyone assist? Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
There is mention in the press that Club Deportivo Preventia (CD Preventia) operates the team on behalf of Caja Rural, but the relationship is unclear. The same is true of the relationship with Club Ciclista Burunda. Club Ciclista Burunda appears to have its own amateur teams in its own name as well as amateur U-23 and Elite amateur teams sponsored by Caja Rural. Can anyone obtain clearer information on this connection? Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
The bicycles Bulgarian brand ViVELO requires a START PAGE. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.136.109 ( talk) 15:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
History and team names are included prior to the formation of the pro team known only by "Caja Rural" because (i) from speaking to those who follow Spanish and Basque cycling, from the tone of some of the relevant articles I have read and from the team's own official history, it seems clear that Caja Rural is not generally considered nor does it consider itself to be a 2010 start-up, and (ii) readers doing additional research will quickly find references such as "Kaiku-Caja Rural" in published material prior to 2010 or even rider's affiliations being referred to simply as "Caja Rural" in the 1980s (e.g. Marino Lejarreta's Team Infobox). Transonic Crayon ( talk) 15:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
These are to a great degree very out of date. Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Created redirect page - leaving main article title for now as it is still the popularly used team name. Transonic Crayon ( talk) 13:33, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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As of this date, the content of this article depends on the translation of 2 Spanish phrases. I am not adequately versed in Spanish to do justice to these. The phrases are, I believe, somewhat idiomatic and should be translated by someone truly fluent in both Spanish and English. They are: "los criterios técnicos-deportivos" and the team motto "un equipo para creer, un equipo para crecer."
In particular, the first half of the motto may mean a "team to believe in" or it may also mean "a team that believes in itself" or may intentionally ambiguously mean both which would be harder to capture in an English phrase that still has the cadence of a pithy motto. Can anyone help with this subtlety of translation? Thanks.
Transonic Crayon (
talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
From publicly available information it is not clear whether the professional team is sponsored by the whole of Grupo Caja Rural or by Caja Rural de Nevarra, one of the Grupo's member banks that is located in Pamplona. Few articles dwell on this distinction. It may be that the professional teams are Grupo sponsored and the amateur teams are sponsored by CR de Nevarra, either explicitly or as a matter of practice. Can anyone assist? Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
There is mention in the press that Club Deportivo Preventia (CD Preventia) operates the team on behalf of Caja Rural, but the relationship is unclear. The same is true of the relationship with Club Ciclista Burunda. Club Ciclista Burunda appears to have its own amateur teams in its own name as well as amateur U-23 and Elite amateur teams sponsored by Caja Rural. Can anyone obtain clearer information on this connection? Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
The bicycles Bulgarian brand ViVELO requires a START PAGE. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.136.109 ( talk) 15:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
History and team names are included prior to the formation of the pro team known only by "Caja Rural" because (i) from speaking to those who follow Spanish and Basque cycling, from the tone of some of the relevant articles I have read and from the team's own official history, it seems clear that Caja Rural is not generally considered nor does it consider itself to be a 2010 start-up, and (ii) readers doing additional research will quickly find references such as "Kaiku-Caja Rural" in published material prior to 2010 or even rider's affiliations being referred to simply as "Caja Rural" in the 1980s (e.g. Marino Lejarreta's Team Infobox). Transonic Crayon ( talk) 15:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
These are to a great degree very out of date. Transonic Crayon ( talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Created redirect page - leaving main article title for now as it is still the popularly used team name. Transonic Crayon ( talk) 13:33, 19 February 2013 (UTC)