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"A cabinet shuffle occurred on July 20, 2004."
Is 'cabinet shuffle' the right term for the reassignments in a new Parliament? Especially as this is now a minority? I'm not completely certain of the terminology, but I wanted to raise the question. Radagast 17:23, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
-- Sorry for the rather delayed response. Yes it is a shuffle because it is the same ministry. -- Jord 01:22, 7 Nov, 2004 (GMT)
Should he be included on this page at all? He is neither a member of the cabinet nor of the ministry, the fact that his is a privy councillor is irrelevant as Martin's whip and parliamentary secretaries were such but were not included on this page (and rightfully so). Moreover, there is one privy councillor ( Garth Turner) in the government caucus who has no formal role, as well as countless PCs in opposition. - Jord 00:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
As of the October 30 2008 cabinet shuffle, Jay Hill is in a new position, formally called the "Leader of the Government in the House of Commons", or Government House Leader, but this did not come with any ministry position which I believe is the first time that the House Leader position has not come coupled with another portfolio, sinecure or not. According to Wikipedia's "Leader of the Government in the House of Commons (Canada)" page: "The position is not legally entitled to cabinet standing on its own, so all Government House Leaders must simultaneously hold another portfolio." So since Jay Hill does not have the title nor role of "Minister" he technically and legally should not be a part of the Cabinet, but according to the Prime Minister's website of the cabinet as of October 30 ( http://www.pm.gc.ca/grfx/docs/cabinet.pdf) Jay Hill is included with a title as follows: "The Honourable Jay D. Hill Leader of the Government in the House of Commons". Does anyone have any further evidence for or against keeping Jay Hill on this page, the Cabinet of Canada? As of now I don't think he should be up, but I will wait for others to comment before removing him. Canadianpoliticsfan ( talk) 06:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Please note that just as when Paul Martin took office, Stephen Harper realigned and renamed some of the ministries; please use the correct and official NEW names. See these links to the PMO site for the correct names: List of Ministers, Backgrounder on departmental changes - Jord 20:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe the section concerning Minister of the Crown vs. Ministers of State needs to be revamped and reworked. Ministers of State are not necessarily junior ministers. They are essentially a Minister whose responsibilities do not correspond to a department. The current Ministry has at least four ministers of State (some of whom also hold proper Ministerial portfolio). The current Ministers of State are Verner, Clement, Emerson and Chong, and there may very well be others.
In the order in council here [5], it is shown that there is no Minister of Social Development, that Diane Finley is Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development styled as Minister of Human Resources and Social Development with all of the powers of minister of Social Development delegated to her without her actually being minister. - Jord 16:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Just a comment. Harper's cabinet is (politically) right-wing, yet has anyone noticed the number of Ministers who are left-handed? GoodDay 23:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I have again removed it from the list. My reasons are twofold. First, despite the fact that the Department of Social Development Act remains in force, there is no Minister of Social Development. The Act establishes the department and bestows authority for that department on the Minister of Social Development. However, the Public Service Rearrangement and Transfer of Duties Act allows the Governor in Council to transfer that responsibility to any other Minister. Harper's government did that on February 6, effectively eliminating the position. This power allows the Governor in Council to act notwithstanding any Act presently in force. This appears to be somewhat difficult for some to understand, but it is a fact. Secondly, even if you remain unable to grasp my first point, the list in the article is of the current Cabinet. Not current departments, not portfolios -- the current cabinet. Whether the portfolio is vacant or does not exist, the fact remains that the current Cabinet does not have one, and it therefore does not belong in this list.
FYI - the official titles of ministers (verses what they are styled as) is now available as the cabinet is in the Gazette [6] - Jord 15:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I added "Senator" to the names of Senators. Im not sure if Hon. Senator John Doe or if Senator the Hon. John Doe is correct, I've seen it both ways. Keeperoftheseal 22:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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Back on October 19, User:Miesianiacal decided to put the President of the Privy Council at the top of the Cabinet list, over even the Prime Minister, without any discussion. The Cabinet is not the Privy Council but a committee of the Privy Council and, both constitutionally and in fact it is the Prime Minister who is the had of Cabinet. I have reversed the order to put the PM on top as the PM is the first minister. Doctorite ( talk) 22:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
What is the justification for the current order of ministers? It's not according to alphabetical order or order the post was created, nor is it in order of seniority by appointee. Is there a reference somewhere for the order? If not we should change it to either alphabetical order (following the PM) or date the position was created. I prefer the former since it would make it easier for most people to find a specific post. Doctorite ( talk) 23:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
See also this list of the British Cabinet where the PM heads the list, not the Lord President of the Council. Doctorite ( talk) 00:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The standard way of listing the Cabinet is in order of precedence (that is in order of the minister's seniority in the Privy Council ie the PM is first followed by ministers with the order determined by when they were sworn in as privy councillors). See [7] and [8]. The list in this page needs to be corrected accordingly. Round the Horne ( talk) 17:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I think that the table currently used is unattractive and not user-friendly. I propose replacing it with the following:
Thoughts? - Nbpolitico ( talk) 16:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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It's been updated, but four ministers are missing. There are only PM + 26, but there are PM + 30. Where are the other four? GBC ( talk) 04:21, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
What exactly is the basis for Carolyn Bennett's precedence date being 1986? She didn't join the Privy Council until the Martin government. CaptainCanada ( talk) 21:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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Whoever updated the cabinet list overlooked making corresponding changes to the precedence dates and they're now screwed up. Can someone fix them as needed? Precedence date is the date the individual was sworn into the privy council (usually the day they first became a cabinet minister or parliamentary secretary) and if a minister changes portfolio their precedence date moves with them. 130.63.230.247 ( talk) 19:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-shuffle-2018-1.4749976
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made significant changes to his cabinet, bringing five new ministers to the table and creating new portfolios for seniors, intergovernmental affairs and border security.
The retooled cabinet signals the government intends to ease trade dependence on the U.S. and bolster political forces in key regions in the run-up to next year's federal election.
In one surprise move, Bill Blair, a former Toronto police chief who has been the government's point man on the marijuana legalization file, was appointed minister of border security and organized crime reduction. He will also be in charge of managing the hot-button issue of irregular migration with asylum seekers crossing into Canada from the U.S.
Other new ministers added to the cabinet today:
Mary Ng, a former staffer in Trudeau's office who was recently elected in a Markham-Thornhill byelection, becomes minister for small business and export promotion. Filomena Tassi, a Hamilton MP, becomes minister for seniors. Vancouver MP Jonathan Wilkinson becomes minister of fisheries, oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard. Pablo Rodriguez, who was serving as chief government whip, becomes minister of heritage and multiculturalism. Ministers with new or changed duties:
Dominic LeBlanc moves from Fisheries and Oceans to Intergovernmental Affairs, Northern Affairs and Internal Trade.
Amarjeet Sohi moves from Infrastructure to Natural Resources.
Carla Qualtrough, remains minister of public services and procurement and gets the added portfolio of Accessibility.
Jim Carr moves from Natural Resources to International Trade Diversification.
Mélanie Joly goes from Heritage to minister of tourism, official languages and la francophonie.
François-Philippe Champagne moves from International Trade to Infrastructure and Communities. — Preceding
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"A cabinet shuffle occurred on July 20, 2004."
Is 'cabinet shuffle' the right term for the reassignments in a new Parliament? Especially as this is now a minority? I'm not completely certain of the terminology, but I wanted to raise the question. Radagast 17:23, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
-- Sorry for the rather delayed response. Yes it is a shuffle because it is the same ministry. -- Jord 01:22, 7 Nov, 2004 (GMT)
Should he be included on this page at all? He is neither a member of the cabinet nor of the ministry, the fact that his is a privy councillor is irrelevant as Martin's whip and parliamentary secretaries were such but were not included on this page (and rightfully so). Moreover, there is one privy councillor ( Garth Turner) in the government caucus who has no formal role, as well as countless PCs in opposition. - Jord 00:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
As of the October 30 2008 cabinet shuffle, Jay Hill is in a new position, formally called the "Leader of the Government in the House of Commons", or Government House Leader, but this did not come with any ministry position which I believe is the first time that the House Leader position has not come coupled with another portfolio, sinecure or not. According to Wikipedia's "Leader of the Government in the House of Commons (Canada)" page: "The position is not legally entitled to cabinet standing on its own, so all Government House Leaders must simultaneously hold another portfolio." So since Jay Hill does not have the title nor role of "Minister" he technically and legally should not be a part of the Cabinet, but according to the Prime Minister's website of the cabinet as of October 30 ( http://www.pm.gc.ca/grfx/docs/cabinet.pdf) Jay Hill is included with a title as follows: "The Honourable Jay D. Hill Leader of the Government in the House of Commons". Does anyone have any further evidence for or against keeping Jay Hill on this page, the Cabinet of Canada? As of now I don't think he should be up, but I will wait for others to comment before removing him. Canadianpoliticsfan ( talk) 06:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Please note that just as when Paul Martin took office, Stephen Harper realigned and renamed some of the ministries; please use the correct and official NEW names. See these links to the PMO site for the correct names: List of Ministers, Backgrounder on departmental changes - Jord 20:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe the section concerning Minister of the Crown vs. Ministers of State needs to be revamped and reworked. Ministers of State are not necessarily junior ministers. They are essentially a Minister whose responsibilities do not correspond to a department. The current Ministry has at least four ministers of State (some of whom also hold proper Ministerial portfolio). The current Ministers of State are Verner, Clement, Emerson and Chong, and there may very well be others.
In the order in council here [5], it is shown that there is no Minister of Social Development, that Diane Finley is Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development styled as Minister of Human Resources and Social Development with all of the powers of minister of Social Development delegated to her without her actually being minister. - Jord 16:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Just a comment. Harper's cabinet is (politically) right-wing, yet has anyone noticed the number of Ministers who are left-handed? GoodDay 23:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I have again removed it from the list. My reasons are twofold. First, despite the fact that the Department of Social Development Act remains in force, there is no Minister of Social Development. The Act establishes the department and bestows authority for that department on the Minister of Social Development. However, the Public Service Rearrangement and Transfer of Duties Act allows the Governor in Council to transfer that responsibility to any other Minister. Harper's government did that on February 6, effectively eliminating the position. This power allows the Governor in Council to act notwithstanding any Act presently in force. This appears to be somewhat difficult for some to understand, but it is a fact. Secondly, even if you remain unable to grasp my first point, the list in the article is of the current Cabinet. Not current departments, not portfolios -- the current cabinet. Whether the portfolio is vacant or does not exist, the fact remains that the current Cabinet does not have one, and it therefore does not belong in this list.
FYI - the official titles of ministers (verses what they are styled as) is now available as the cabinet is in the Gazette [6] - Jord 15:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I added "Senator" to the names of Senators. Im not sure if Hon. Senator John Doe or if Senator the Hon. John Doe is correct, I've seen it both ways. Keeperoftheseal 22:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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Back on October 19, User:Miesianiacal decided to put the President of the Privy Council at the top of the Cabinet list, over even the Prime Minister, without any discussion. The Cabinet is not the Privy Council but a committee of the Privy Council and, both constitutionally and in fact it is the Prime Minister who is the had of Cabinet. I have reversed the order to put the PM on top as the PM is the first minister. Doctorite ( talk) 22:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
What is the justification for the current order of ministers? It's not according to alphabetical order or order the post was created, nor is it in order of seniority by appointee. Is there a reference somewhere for the order? If not we should change it to either alphabetical order (following the PM) or date the position was created. I prefer the former since it would make it easier for most people to find a specific post. Doctorite ( talk) 23:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
See also this list of the British Cabinet where the PM heads the list, not the Lord President of the Council. Doctorite ( talk) 00:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The standard way of listing the Cabinet is in order of precedence (that is in order of the minister's seniority in the Privy Council ie the PM is first followed by ministers with the order determined by when they were sworn in as privy councillors). See [7] and [8]. The list in this page needs to be corrected accordingly. Round the Horne ( talk) 17:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I think that the table currently used is unattractive and not user-friendly. I propose replacing it with the following:
Thoughts? - Nbpolitico ( talk) 16:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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What exactly is the basis for Carolyn Bennett's precedence date being 1986? She didn't join the Privy Council until the Martin government. CaptainCanada ( talk) 21:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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Whoever updated the cabinet list overlooked making corresponding changes to the precedence dates and they're now screwed up. Can someone fix them as needed? Precedence date is the date the individual was sworn into the privy council (usually the day they first became a cabinet minister or parliamentary secretary) and if a minister changes portfolio their precedence date moves with them. 130.63.230.247 ( talk) 19:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-shuffle-2018-1.4749976
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made significant changes to his cabinet, bringing five new ministers to the table and creating new portfolios for seniors, intergovernmental affairs and border security.
The retooled cabinet signals the government intends to ease trade dependence on the U.S. and bolster political forces in key regions in the run-up to next year's federal election.
In one surprise move, Bill Blair, a former Toronto police chief who has been the government's point man on the marijuana legalization file, was appointed minister of border security and organized crime reduction. He will also be in charge of managing the hot-button issue of irregular migration with asylum seekers crossing into Canada from the U.S.
Other new ministers added to the cabinet today:
Mary Ng, a former staffer in Trudeau's office who was recently elected in a Markham-Thornhill byelection, becomes minister for small business and export promotion. Filomena Tassi, a Hamilton MP, becomes minister for seniors. Vancouver MP Jonathan Wilkinson becomes minister of fisheries, oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard. Pablo Rodriguez, who was serving as chief government whip, becomes minister of heritage and multiculturalism. Ministers with new or changed duties:
Dominic LeBlanc moves from Fisheries and Oceans to Intergovernmental Affairs, Northern Affairs and Internal Trade.
Amarjeet Sohi moves from Infrastructure to Natural Resources.
Carla Qualtrough, remains minister of public services and procurement and gets the added portfolio of Accessibility.
Jim Carr moves from Natural Resources to International Trade Diversification.
Mélanie Joly goes from Heritage to minister of tourism, official languages and la francophonie.
François-Philippe Champagne moves from International Trade to Infrastructure and Communities. — Preceding
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