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I think this article should be called CURL utility (or something like that). It would be consistant with Curl Programming Language. It seems a mistake to have two articles different, only by case (this and Curl. Does anybody agree? Without agreement, I won't touch it. -- rob 21:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the capitalisation as cURL refers to the software project, not the utility (which is curl). The scope of this page also looks to refer to the project as a whole. So maybe cURL (software project) rather than cURL utility.
A stopgap method to make the article somewhat more accessible to non-technical readers (without vastly re-writing everything) is to hyperlink each jargon term in the article to an article which is more accessible. For example, a non-technical reader does not know what bindings means in the context of this article, so I hyperlinked it. Teratornis 21:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure, but if you are reading such page, you should know (as a basic) what are those protocols, operating systems, and other technical words. They are basic in the computer science world.
Almost all of this page is cut and pasted directly from the cURL tutorial. I read that, and came here looking for more. There's nothing more here. I thought wikipedia had original information.
I've removed the section on the grounds that it's plagiarism , and that Wikipedia is not a how-to. See the original document at http://curl.haxx.se/docs/httpscripting.html. bCube. talk( contribs); 00:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
BCube, you are arguing that Wikipedia should have less information! The section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" is the minimum information necessary to use cURL. If it is too technical for you, then cURL is too technical for you. There are many subjects in Wikipedia that are too technical for someone. For example, the article on Testosterone says that the IUPAC name is 17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one. Will you remove that because you don't understand it? Futurepower(R) 02:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" was posted with the permission of the author. The Wikipedia version was edited in many ways to make it more clear. You should not accuse someone of plagiarism if you have not communicated with the author. Futurepower(R) 02:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The fact that the same information is available elsewhere is not an argument against it appearing in Wikipedia. It is valuable to have section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" in Wikipedia because then knowledgeable people can add to the information without having to ask the author of cURL. Futurepower(R) 02:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I suggest the new name should be "CURL network utility". The disambiguation section for the name CURL should be retained, but point to the new computer utility name. Futurepower(R), 02:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The name of the project is cURL, the name of the softwares that is the output from the cURL project are curl and libcurl, the command line tool and the development library for URL transfers. So, "cURL" is actually not a software nor a tool, it is the name of the project.
Shouldn't we at least mention that the author and lead developer of cURL is Daniel Stenberg? He is also one of the many developers for the Rockbox project, opensource firmware for many mp3 players. I think at least we could give the man some credit for his good works.
How do you pronounce this name? Is it Khurl or c-url? Olmer ( talk) 13:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm trying to update the last Stable Release of cURL that actually is 7.38.0 on September 10, 2014 but I can't find where to edit it. The release information where comes from? 8110charlie ( talk) 16:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The release info comes best from the curl web site itself, see curl.haxx.se/changes.html has the full release history back to 1999. (Daniel, curl dev) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.174.211.166 ( talk) 07:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 18:42, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
The article does a terrible job of explaining what you actually do with this software in practice, only describing it in the most vague ways possible, like: "cURL is a command-line tool for getting or sending data including files using URL syntax." That really doesn't narrow it down much, there thousands of tools that do different things to which this description applies to.
Going through the history, I found an edit (13 September 2018) that deleted a huge junk of the article. This edit deleted all the examples. Looking at the last version that included them basically cleared up the confusion within seconds. So, I'm going to put the basic examples back in, because they do a better job at explaining this software than the entire rest of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1206:4561:4C10:16B0:5C64:EC45:912 ( talk) 07:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
curl --insecure -o output.txt /info/en/?search=CURL % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 65720 100 65720 0 0 123k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 456k
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 08:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Proposal: Where we are talking about the command line tool (rather than the project including the library) within the article would it not make more sense to use curl rather than cURL within the section called curl. Will wait at least a week for objections. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Just changed this as there are no objections. 88.10.158.248 ( talk) 09:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hyperwick recently made more cURL to curl changes. I suspect these don't respect the project vs. tool as discussed above. In any case, the title of the article is still cURL and the styling in the title should be consistent with the body. ~ Kvng ( talk) 14:53, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
The beginning of this article (currently) says that Curl is a library (libcurl) and command-line tool (curl). Did libcurl exist in 1997 when Curl was released? I assume that originally only the command-line tool existed and later the useful parts were split off into libcurl. Sam Tomato ( talk) 16:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Someone wants a "quotation" for the bindings claim and the [official site]( https://curl.se/libcurl/bindings.html) listing over 60 of them should be a good source, but then again that's still of course using the same canonical source... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagder ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
The canonical source of curl historical data is on their main site https://curl.se/docs/history.html
The entry should be updated to reflect that, the current suggested start date is wrong (1997).
NoPolymath ( talk) 08:48, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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I think this article should be called CURL utility (or something like that). It would be consistant with Curl Programming Language. It seems a mistake to have two articles different, only by case (this and Curl. Does anybody agree? Without agreement, I won't touch it. -- rob 21:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the capitalisation as cURL refers to the software project, not the utility (which is curl). The scope of this page also looks to refer to the project as a whole. So maybe cURL (software project) rather than cURL utility.
A stopgap method to make the article somewhat more accessible to non-technical readers (without vastly re-writing everything) is to hyperlink each jargon term in the article to an article which is more accessible. For example, a non-technical reader does not know what bindings means in the context of this article, so I hyperlinked it. Teratornis 21:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure, but if you are reading such page, you should know (as a basic) what are those protocols, operating systems, and other technical words. They are basic in the computer science world.
Almost all of this page is cut and pasted directly from the cURL tutorial. I read that, and came here looking for more. There's nothing more here. I thought wikipedia had original information.
I've removed the section on the grounds that it's plagiarism , and that Wikipedia is not a how-to. See the original document at http://curl.haxx.se/docs/httpscripting.html. bCube. talk( contribs); 00:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
BCube, you are arguing that Wikipedia should have less information! The section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" is the minimum information necessary to use cURL. If it is too technical for you, then cURL is too technical for you. There are many subjects in Wikipedia that are too technical for someone. For example, the article on Testosterone says that the IUPAC name is 17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one. Will you remove that because you don't understand it? Futurepower(R) 02:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" was posted with the permission of the author. The Wikipedia version was edited in many ways to make it more clear. You should not accuse someone of plagiarism if you have not communicated with the author. Futurepower(R) 02:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The fact that the same information is available elsewhere is not an argument against it appearing in Wikipedia. It is valuable to have section "Scripting HTTP Requests Using Curl" in Wikipedia because then knowledgeable people can add to the information without having to ask the author of cURL. Futurepower(R) 02:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I suggest the new name should be "CURL network utility". The disambiguation section for the name CURL should be retained, but point to the new computer utility name. Futurepower(R), 02:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The name of the project is cURL, the name of the softwares that is the output from the cURL project are curl and libcurl, the command line tool and the development library for URL transfers. So, "cURL" is actually not a software nor a tool, it is the name of the project.
Shouldn't we at least mention that the author and lead developer of cURL is Daniel Stenberg? He is also one of the many developers for the Rockbox project, opensource firmware for many mp3 players. I think at least we could give the man some credit for his good works.
How do you pronounce this name? Is it Khurl or c-url? Olmer ( talk) 13:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm trying to update the last Stable Release of cURL that actually is 7.38.0 on September 10, 2014 but I can't find where to edit it. The release information where comes from? 8110charlie ( talk) 16:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The release info comes best from the curl web site itself, see curl.haxx.se/changes.html has the full release history back to 1999. (Daniel, curl dev) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.174.211.166 ( talk) 07:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 18:42, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
The article does a terrible job of explaining what you actually do with this software in practice, only describing it in the most vague ways possible, like: "cURL is a command-line tool for getting or sending data including files using URL syntax." That really doesn't narrow it down much, there thousands of tools that do different things to which this description applies to.
Going through the history, I found an edit (13 September 2018) that deleted a huge junk of the article. This edit deleted all the examples. Looking at the last version that included them basically cleared up the confusion within seconds. So, I'm going to put the basic examples back in, because they do a better job at explaining this software than the entire rest of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1206:4561:4C10:16B0:5C64:EC45:912 ( talk) 07:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
curl --insecure -o output.txt /info/en/?search=CURL % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 65720 100 65720 0 0 123k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 456k
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 08:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Proposal: Where we are talking about the command line tool (rather than the project including the library) within the article would it not make more sense to use curl rather than cURL within the section called curl. Will wait at least a week for objections. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Just changed this as there are no objections. 88.10.158.248 ( talk) 09:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hyperwick recently made more cURL to curl changes. I suspect these don't respect the project vs. tool as discussed above. In any case, the title of the article is still cURL and the styling in the title should be consistent with the body. ~ Kvng ( talk) 14:53, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
The beginning of this article (currently) says that Curl is a library (libcurl) and command-line tool (curl). Did libcurl exist in 1997 when Curl was released? I assume that originally only the command-line tool existed and later the useful parts were split off into libcurl. Sam Tomato ( talk) 16:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Someone wants a "quotation" for the bindings claim and the [official site]( https://curl.se/libcurl/bindings.html) listing over 60 of them should be a good source, but then again that's still of course using the same canonical source... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagder ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
The canonical source of curl historical data is on their main site https://curl.se/docs/history.html
The entry should be updated to reflect that, the current suggested start date is wrong (1997).
NoPolymath ( talk) 08:48, 29 September 2021 (UTC)