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Now that we have articles for most of the series books (a few more to do yet), what to do about those novels that don't fit into a given series? Books like Serpent's Reach, Voyager in Night, and Tripoint, for example. Should every independent novel be put into its own article, or are there some logical groupings we might use? I'm not so sure. Some of the more major ones, Gehenna, for example, and Cuckoo's Egg (nominated for a Hugo), probably deserve their own articles.
I could see an article on Devil to the Belt that talked about the books included in that omnibus edition: Heavy Time and Hellburner. For stuff in the "The Era of Rapproachment", however I don't think all the books there should be all grouped together. Merchanter's Luck, Tripoint, and Finity's End are all told from the perspective of merchanters and so might potentially be grouped together in a "Merchanter novels" article (or something similar). Rimrunners is more military-oriented, although set during the same era and still an Alliance-side "merchanter" novel (sort-of). Serpent's Reach, however, is significantly different than the others (nominally Alliance-side, but Azi/Majat/Kontrin).
I like doing an article on Cherry's "magic cookie" books called "Alternate Realities", because that was the name of the omnibus edition the books were published under in 2001, and the books are all way out there in one way or another. (Downside there is that 2 are A-U and the other one isn't; maybe eventually split those out into separate articles?). "The Deep Beyond" doesn't merit that type of treatment (IMHO), however; I think Serpent's Reach and Cuckoo's Egg are quite different books and deserve their own articles.
Ok, so I guess this is my strawman for the rest of you to pick apart:
What do you think? Fairsing 21:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I went through and infobox'd most of the book pages. The only ones I haven't done are the Morgaine, Fortress, and Russian series, as well as (shudder) the Foreigner series. So, I guess I've done about half of the total books. I think I'm stopping for now, I might pick back up on those left later. -- PresN 19:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[1] and [2] (for example) show the Age of Exploration (comprising Cuckoo's Egg, Port Eternity and Voyager in Night) as separate from the Alliance-Union. On Ms Cherryh's own web site she lists the three books under "Miscellany" and not the Alliance-Union [3]. I have seen sites showing the Age of Exploration as part of the Alliance-Union. Does anyone know which it is? -- Bruce1ee 08:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd argue that the Foreigner Universe and Finisterre belong under Alliance-Union as well. Foreigner started with station builders getting lost in Jump. That's pretty clear; it is like Mri and Merovingen where people from elsewhere landed and it deals with their society.
Also, Wave Without A Shore and Hestia also take place in Alliance-Union.
Only Gene Wars and Morgaine are separate series.
Thoughts?
-- User:forceten 01:07, November 20, 2006 (UTC)
Forceten, can you provide the quote from the first page of Wave w/o a Shore that establishes it as an A-U novel? My copy of the book is currently in storage and I can't look it up myself. Thanks! Fairsing 03:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The Deep Beyond is miscategorized as a collection. The two novels are as long as or longer than her average book at that time. Each is well over the word count to qualify as novels and each was originally published as a separate novel. It is an omnibus.
I recognize it's a hard-to-categorize omnibus since they cross the pre-existent categories but an awkward categorization would be better than a wrong one. Maybe list the omnibus in its own category, or twice under each novel that forms it, or re-arrange them - whatever people think is best.
-- Er, that goes even more so for Alternate Realities, now that my eyeballs finally engage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.227.122.125 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 30 December 2006 UTC
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Now that we have articles for most of the series books (a few more to do yet), what to do about those novels that don't fit into a given series? Books like Serpent's Reach, Voyager in Night, and Tripoint, for example. Should every independent novel be put into its own article, or are there some logical groupings we might use? I'm not so sure. Some of the more major ones, Gehenna, for example, and Cuckoo's Egg (nominated for a Hugo), probably deserve their own articles.
I could see an article on Devil to the Belt that talked about the books included in that omnibus edition: Heavy Time and Hellburner. For stuff in the "The Era of Rapproachment", however I don't think all the books there should be all grouped together. Merchanter's Luck, Tripoint, and Finity's End are all told from the perspective of merchanters and so might potentially be grouped together in a "Merchanter novels" article (or something similar). Rimrunners is more military-oriented, although set during the same era and still an Alliance-side "merchanter" novel (sort-of). Serpent's Reach, however, is significantly different than the others (nominally Alliance-side, but Azi/Majat/Kontrin).
I like doing an article on Cherry's "magic cookie" books called "Alternate Realities", because that was the name of the omnibus edition the books were published under in 2001, and the books are all way out there in one way or another. (Downside there is that 2 are A-U and the other one isn't; maybe eventually split those out into separate articles?). "The Deep Beyond" doesn't merit that type of treatment (IMHO), however; I think Serpent's Reach and Cuckoo's Egg are quite different books and deserve their own articles.
Ok, so I guess this is my strawman for the rest of you to pick apart:
What do you think? Fairsing 21:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I went through and infobox'd most of the book pages. The only ones I haven't done are the Morgaine, Fortress, and Russian series, as well as (shudder) the Foreigner series. So, I guess I've done about half of the total books. I think I'm stopping for now, I might pick back up on those left later. -- PresN 19:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[1] and [2] (for example) show the Age of Exploration (comprising Cuckoo's Egg, Port Eternity and Voyager in Night) as separate from the Alliance-Union. On Ms Cherryh's own web site she lists the three books under "Miscellany" and not the Alliance-Union [3]. I have seen sites showing the Age of Exploration as part of the Alliance-Union. Does anyone know which it is? -- Bruce1ee 08:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd argue that the Foreigner Universe and Finisterre belong under Alliance-Union as well. Foreigner started with station builders getting lost in Jump. That's pretty clear; it is like Mri and Merovingen where people from elsewhere landed and it deals with their society.
Also, Wave Without A Shore and Hestia also take place in Alliance-Union.
Only Gene Wars and Morgaine are separate series.
Thoughts?
-- User:forceten 01:07, November 20, 2006 (UTC)
Forceten, can you provide the quote from the first page of Wave w/o a Shore that establishes it as an A-U novel? My copy of the book is currently in storage and I can't look it up myself. Thanks! Fairsing 03:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The Deep Beyond is miscategorized as a collection. The two novels are as long as or longer than her average book at that time. Each is well over the word count to qualify as novels and each was originally published as a separate novel. It is an omnibus.
I recognize it's a hard-to-categorize omnibus since they cross the pre-existent categories but an awkward categorization would be better than a wrong one. Maybe list the omnibus in its own category, or twice under each novel that forms it, or re-arrange them - whatever people think is best.
-- Er, that goes even more so for Alternate Realities, now that my eyeballs finally engage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.227.122.125 ( talk • contribs) 01:23, 30 December 2006 UTC
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