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The result of the move request was: no consensus at this time. Thanks for the civil discussion, Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 02:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
– According to WP:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names): Consult English-language encyclopedias (we recommend Encyclopedia Britannica, Columbia Encyclopedia, Encarta, each as published after 1993). If the articles in these agree on using a single name in discussing the period, it is the widely accepted English name. None of these sources use Vietnamese diacritics. That should settle the issue, but nonetheless editors ask, “What’s the harm in putting them in anyway?” Vietnamese diacritics have near zero usage in published English. Not even the official Vietnam News Agency uses them. I checked Lonely Planet's Vietnam and Frommer's Vietnam’s, and the guidebooks don’t use them either. For readers who know this, a title with Vietnamese diacritics will appear to be non-English. Those who do not know this might be misled into thinking that the diacritics are mainstream English-language usage. The version of the name with diacritics would still appear both in boldface the opening and on top of the box (if applicable), so no information would be lost. The version of the name without diacritics should appear somewhere in the article. The most logical place for it is the title since a typeable title is easier to search for and easier to link to. The issue of Vietnamese diacritics in biography articles was discussed earlier at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau and Talk:Dang Huu Phuc. There are no borderline cases in this group. Each one has an entry in Britannica where the city name is given without diacritics. Kauffner ( talk) 06:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Here are the links to establish English-language usage: Can Tho, Ca Mau, Cao Lanh, My Tho, Nam Dinh, Phan Thiet, Quang Ngai, Rach Gia, Thai Nguyen, Thanh Hoa, Thu Dau Mot, Vinh Yen, Vung Tau, and Yen Bai. Kauffner ( talk) 06:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Need Han Tu for Cầm Thi Giang and Cần Thơ. Badagnani 03:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Since the RM has been archived (above) a note that following revert by db-G6 admin Malik Shabazz Cần Thơ is back where it was before the move counter the failed RM. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:55, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Note: The following were moved manually counter RM result rather than by db-G6.
These were restored by 3rd RM closed 24 August 2012 In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:00, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus at this time. Thanks for the civil discussion, Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 02:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
– According to WP:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names): Consult English-language encyclopedias (we recommend Encyclopedia Britannica, Columbia Encyclopedia, Encarta, each as published after 1993). If the articles in these agree on using a single name in discussing the period, it is the widely accepted English name. None of these sources use Vietnamese diacritics. That should settle the issue, but nonetheless editors ask, “What’s the harm in putting them in anyway?” Vietnamese diacritics have near zero usage in published English. Not even the official Vietnam News Agency uses them. I checked Lonely Planet's Vietnam and Frommer's Vietnam’s, and the guidebooks don’t use them either. For readers who know this, a title with Vietnamese diacritics will appear to be non-English. Those who do not know this might be misled into thinking that the diacritics are mainstream English-language usage. The version of the name with diacritics would still appear both in boldface the opening and on top of the box (if applicable), so no information would be lost. The version of the name without diacritics should appear somewhere in the article. The most logical place for it is the title since a typeable title is easier to search for and easier to link to. The issue of Vietnamese diacritics in biography articles was discussed earlier at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau and Talk:Dang Huu Phuc. There are no borderline cases in this group. Each one has an entry in Britannica where the city name is given without diacritics. Kauffner ( talk) 06:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Here are the links to establish English-language usage: Can Tho, Ca Mau, Cao Lanh, My Tho, Nam Dinh, Phan Thiet, Quang Ngai, Rach Gia, Thai Nguyen, Thanh Hoa, Thu Dau Mot, Vinh Yen, Vung Tau, and Yen Bai. Kauffner ( talk) 06:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Need Han Tu for Cầm Thi Giang and Cần Thơ. Badagnani 03:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Since the RM has been archived (above) a note that following revert by db-G6 admin Malik Shabazz Cần Thơ is back where it was before the move counter the failed RM. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:55, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Note: The following were moved manually counter RM result rather than by db-G6.
These were restored by 3rd RM closed 24 August 2012 In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:00, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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