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I clipped a lot of newspaper articles about the world tour, and I thought it would be a waste not to document them somewhere. Also, it is never referred to as the "Great Leap Tour" in anything I have seen so far (the article currently calls it that). Kees08 (Talk) 01:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Apparently Hawaii got skipped (Nixon wanted to go on holiday) and the visits to Canada were done a month later (see the source for details: "about a month after they returned they were sent to Ottawa and Montreal, Canada. Apparently, these stops couldn't logistically fit into either the beginning or the end of the world trip."). Oh, and a visit to Hungary was declined. Not sure why some sources say 37 days (time zones?) or 45 days (including the visit to Canada a month later?) or even 24 countries (including Canada and/or including Guam or the Canary Islands as separate 'countries'?). Carcharoth ( talk) 14:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)The itinerary for the "Giantstep Apollo 11" world tour from September 29 to November 5, 1969 included the following stops: Mexico City, Mexico (Sept. 29-30); Bogota, Colombia (Sept. 30-Oct. 1); Brasilia, Brazil (Oct. 1); Buenos Aires, Argentina (Oct. 1-2); Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (Oct. 2-4); Las Palmas, Canary Islands (Oct. 4-6); Madrid, Spain (Oct. 6-8); Paris, France (Oct. 8-9); Amsterdam, Holland (Oct. 9); Brussels, Belgium (Oct. 9-10); Oslo, Norway (Oct. 10-12); Cologne/Bonn and Berlin, Germany (Oct. 12-14); London, England (Oct. 14-15); Rome, Italy (Oct. 15-18); Belgrade, Yugoslavia (Oct. 18-20); Ankara, Turkey (Oct. 20-22); Kinshasa, Zaire (Oct. 22-24); Tehran, Iran (Oct. 24-26); Bombay, India (Oct. 26-27); Dacca, East Pakistan (Oct. 27-28); Bangkok, Thailand (Oct. 28-31); Perth, Australia (Oct. 31); Sydney, Australia (Oct. 31-Nov. 2); Agana, Guam (Nov. 2-3); Seoul, Korea (Nov. 3-4); Tokyo, Japan (Nov. 4-5); Elmendorf, Alaska (Nov. 5); Ottawa and Montreal, Canada (Dec. 2-3).
[1] says it was founded by Buzz in 1996 - and he has related patents for reusable rocket launchers. Reported on at [2] - Rod57 ( talk) 12:03, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
"To verify its accuracy and authenticity, the game, is being developed in consultation with Dr. Buzz Aldrin, former U.S. Air Force combat pilot (66 missions in Korea) and NASA astronaut, who took part in the first Moon landing mission and became the second human being to walk on the Moon." Buzz Aldrin's Space Program Manager (SPM) Road to the Moon SPM On Steam 174.207.35.98 ( talk) 03:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
I know Americans have template for people names: First name / Middle name / Last name, so it makes Edwin his first name, Eugene his middle name and Aldrin his last name. But what is Buzz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.22.179.69 ( talk) 03:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I took it out, but it looks like someone made a case on it. Perhaps it should be added here or to the Apollo 11 article. Kees08 (Talk) 21:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
"Already discussed" appears to be incorrect, as the only discussion about "West Point" has pertained to the "Military career" section, not the lead. And even that didn't involve actual discussion per se. But no matter, we'll just call it a normal BRD challenge.
The "at West Point" has been in the sentence for some time as it underwent a series of incremental changes that failed to preserve readability and flow. The current sentence:
Born in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, Aldrin graduated third in his United States Military Academy at West Point class in 1951, with a degree in mechanical engineering.
is unacceptably hard to parse (what is "at West Point class in 1951"?), which is to say poor writing, and my preference for fixing that was to remove "at West Point". While it is important to mention the common name "West Point" at some point, that needn't necessarily be done in the lead and the article already does so below the lead.
But, if there is a better way to fix the poor writing, I don't object. ― Mandruss ☎ 10:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
― Mandruss ☎ 03:00, 23 July 2019 (UTC)Born in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, Aldrin graduated in 1951 from the United States Military Academy at West Point, with a degree in mechanical engineering.
Does anyone know how to go about editing information about Buzz Aldren? Marie10569 ( talk) 17:36, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Buzz is credited for being the LMP and he wasn't. It was always suppose to be Armstrong Marie10569 ( talk) 17:38, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Is there any reason we're not including his appearance on the Punky Brewster episode Accidents Happen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charleshpeckhamv ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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Please see the following item in the "Potrayal by others" section:
There are two problems with this item. The source doesn't say that the Lightyear character was "inspired by" Aldrin; it says the name is "in honor of" Aldrin. There's a big difference. This is not a "portrayal" of Aldrin. It's homage to Aldrin. If I was Aldrin I would be insulted that the article suggests that Buzz Lightyear is "portraying" Aldrin. For that reason the item needs to be reworded as follows:
"The name of the Toy Story character Buzz Lightyear was named in honor of Buzz Aldrin."
And since it is not a portrayal it needs to be moved to a different section, preferably to a separate section under "In the media". 75.191.40.148 ( talk) 00:56, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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Please add information about Buzz Aldrins heritage:
”Aldrins paternal grandparents, Karl Johan Aldrin and Anna Nilsdotter, were Swedish immigrants who left Sweden with their children in 1892 and settled in Worcester i Massachusetts where Aldrin’s grandfather worked as a smith.”
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http://www.hhogman.se/well-known-swedish-americans.htm 84.55.87.146 ( talk) 21:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
I just read through the article, and it seems that Aldrin only worked very briefly as an engineer. He joined Lockheed Aircraft Corporation after graduating with a PhD in 1963, but then become an astronaut later that same year. Hence, I think it's a bit misleading to label him as an engineer, especially since being an engineer is not why he is notable. I propose changing the lead to:
Buzz Aldrin ( /ˈɔːldrɪn/; born Edwin Eugene Aldrin Jr.; January 20, 1930) is an American astronaut and former fighter pilot. Originally trained as an engineer, he joined NASA's Project Gemini, and made three spacewalks as pilot of the 1966 Gemini 12 mission. Aldrin was the Apollo Lunar Module pilot on the 1969 Apollo 11 mission, and he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two humans to land on the Moon.
LK ( talk) 07:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Since he was one of the first two people on the Moon, wasn't everything he did on the Moon the first time a person had done it on the Moon? The first steps, the first breath, the first words, etc. The lead should probably explain the relevance or leave it out. Surtsicna ( talk) 12:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
The Bart Sibrel incident section implies that the conspracy theorist "lured [Aldrin] to a Beverly Hills hotel on the pretext of being interviewed for a Japanese children's television show on the subject of space". However, Sibrel and Aldrin have both disputed this. Sibrel always stated in interviews that Aldrin had indeed given an interview to a Japanese production company before his fateful encounter. His story is backed by Aldrin.
In his Magnificent Desolation book, Aldrin specifically states: "One September morning in 2002, I was in Beverly Hills at the Luxe Hotel, filming a television interview for a Far Eastern TV network, when the interview began going in a direction that I knew was out of bounds. At first I tried to be cordial, adroitly answering the question, assuming that the interviewer would recognize my reluctance to talk about inanity, and bring the focus back to a bona fide space subject. Instead the interviewer began playing a television segment that had aired in the United States on the subject of hoaxes, including a section suggesting that the Apollo 11 moon landing never happened. I was aware of the piece and had been livid when it originally aired. I did not appreciate the interviewer's attempts to lure me into commenting on it. Lisa had accompanied me to the interview following her early morning triathlon training in the Santa Monica Bay, and she immediately recognized that this was a flagrant violation of our willingness to conduct the interview in good faith, so she called a halt to the production. We weren't belligerent, but we did not longer long over our good-byes, either. [...] As we stepped out into the hotel foyer, a large man who looked to be in his mid-thirties approached me, attempting to engage me in conversation. "Hey, Buzz, how are you?" He had his own film crew along, with the camera already rolling to document the encounter. I greeted him briefly, acknowledging his presence and kept moving-standard procedure for life in Hollywood. As Lisa and I walked through the foyer toward the front door of the hotel, however, the man kept getting in my way, peppering me with questions, none of which I answered. [...] the "interviewer" had taken out a very large Bible and was shaking it in my face, his voice becoming more animated. "Will you swear on this Bible that you really walked on the Moon?"" [1] (Emphasis added)
He never mentions the man with the bible by name, but I doubt we need to second guess who he's talking about. Should this section not be updated in light of this information to remove any potentially libelous statements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.179.17.79 ( talk) 11:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Armstrong and Aldrin the first humans..... ? What, as opposed to the first donkeys! The word 'human' is only of use when compared to other members of the animal kingdom. For heavens sake! Say it as it is. They were the first MEN … Or is it the case that if and when a woman sets foot on the Moon there will be no reference to the fact of her sex? She will just be another 'human' on the Moon? I somehow doubt it. 31.52.163.22 ( talk) 10:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Change: he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two people to land on the Moon to he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two people to step on the moon. Buzz, Neil and Michael were the first people to land on the moon. 72.76.86.234 ( talk) 02:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I disappeared for a while, someone I know died, unfortunately. Anyway, to continue on what I was saying above, wouldn't questions 1 and 3 from the FAQ be better off as footnotes? They're much more visible, and it would prevent people like me from "correcting" what's in the article. I'd support leaving question 2, however; it deals with Wiki policy more than anything to do with Aldrin specifically. Esszet ( talk) 02:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Buzz Aldrin's occupation is listed as "fighter pilot." Doesn't "astronaut" -- an occupation for which he is much better known, and which was a much more important pat of his life -- make more sense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6010:210C:4DDC:1F8:6722:E4A0:651E ( talk) 19:12, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
The article now says, "With some difficulty they lifted film and two sample boxes containing 21.55 kilograms (47.5 lb) of lunar surface material to the hatch using a flat cable pulley device." This is misleading to readers because the weight of those rocks was 7.9 pounds in lunar gravity. The boxes each had a mass of 9 kg, 3.3 pounds p. 48, and the film wasn't as heavy as all that. The difficulty in performing the operation was not the weight of the items but rather manipulating the cable (LEC) covered in moon dust, attaching things and keeping them attached. See the transcript [6] from to 04 15 27 26 to 04 15 37 42 to get some idea of the challenges. Now, I'm not one to try to sneak in original research, but it seems like we can do better than just saying they had difficulty with some seemingly-heavy boxes of rocks. -- ke4roh ( talk) 20:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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Change 1972 to 1992 as the final date of Air Force service in the 4th paragraph of the inro. (or change the start date, but it currently says 1971 to 1972, and 21 years). Or suggest clarifying that he served as the Commandant for only 1 year. Pterodactylvvelociraptor ( talk) 21:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
The city that he was born in was Montclair New Jersey not Glen Ridge New Jersey as the article states and if you need a source here is the NASA file on him which has his experience, personal data, and NASA experience and you can read it here; Mozzirella ( talk) 17:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC) [1]
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BUZZ Aldrin openly admitted in recent years that they did not go to the moon. Stating "because we didn't go, and the question is why didn't we go?" , while being interviewed on camera for an 8 year old girl. Video available on YouTube for those whom are interested. 199.7.158.235 ( talk) 22:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
The ipa for his name's pronunciation in the article is /ɔːldrɪn/ yet the correct pronunciation would actually be /ɑːldrɪn/ 84.97.60.191 ( talk) 16:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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What qualifies him for placement in Category:Last living survivors? I was surprised to notice that he was in this category, and with a quick text search, I couldn't find anything in the article that would qualify him. 49.198.51.54 ( talk) 20:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
No "Died" section on Aldrin's infobox, just a "Born" part and a reference to his age of death. Someone should add on the "Died" part. ButterCashier ( talk) 14:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
The lead paragraph states "...is an American former astronaut..." can the word "astronaut" be used both as present and past tense? I just wondering if the word "former", is necessary? Food for thought, is all. Jake Jakubowski (Talk) 15:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please insert the following as a new paragraph at the end of Awards and Honors:
In 2023 Buzz Aldrin was honorarily promoted to the U.S. Air Force rank of Brigadier General. The ceremony took place on May 5, 2023 (National Astronaut Day) at Space Systems Command, Los Angeles Space Force Base, California, with Lt Gen Michael Guetlein, USSF, Commander of Space Systems Command, presiding.
Reference 1: https://calvert.house.gov/media/press-releases/buzz-aldrin-honorarily-promoted-brigadier-general-request-rep-calvert Reference 2: https://www.ssc.spaceforce.mil/Portals/3/Space%20Systems%20Command%20Hosts%20Ceremony%20Honoring%20Astronaut%20%20Fighter%20Pilot%20Colonel%20Buzz%20Aldrin%27s%20Honorary%20Appointment%20to%20Brigadier%20General.pdf 1775sd ( talk) 20:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Bryn Thomas played Buzz Aldrin in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Lasthattrick ( talk) 15:25, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
In response to the above semi-protected edit request, the article was just updated to change Aldrin's rank to "Brigadier general". But the cited source says "Aldrin... will receive an honorary appointment to brigadier general". (italics mine). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like this is just an honor and not an actual promotion (which would be a much more formal thing, requiring, I'm pretty certain, a confirmation by the US Senate).
The headline doesn't make the distinction ("Buzz Aldrin to be promoted to Air Force brigadier general"), but headlines are incorrect summaries a lot of the time.
Unless someone can clarify that he has the actual rank, I think the rank update needs to be reverted, and the "promotion" be listed as one of his honors instead. TJRC ( talk) 23:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Buzz Aldrin appeared in Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny and was played by Bryn Thomas. Filming took place in Glasgow July 2021 Lasthattrick ( talk) 08:00, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under portrayed by others can you please add……
Bryn Thomas in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) . Source indianajones.fandom.com and collectspace.com Lasthattrick ( talk) 09:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I have to ask, is the fourth paragraph of the lead really necessary? I don't see how the fact that this ended the space race really applies to the biography of Buzz Aldrin in general, or at least isn't important enough to include in the lead beyond him already being one of the first to step foot on the moon. 2600:100E:B025:7A04:0:4E:6022:EB01 ( talk) 14:55, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
The source says 2,000 feet. I would have simply made the copy edit, but it seems a significant difference (I checked the source because of the audaciousness of the claim), so thought I might note it here. -- Usernameunique ( talk) 06:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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I clipped a lot of newspaper articles about the world tour, and I thought it would be a waste not to document them somewhere. Also, it is never referred to as the "Great Leap Tour" in anything I have seen so far (the article currently calls it that). Kees08 (Talk) 01:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Apparently Hawaii got skipped (Nixon wanted to go on holiday) and the visits to Canada were done a month later (see the source for details: "about a month after they returned they were sent to Ottawa and Montreal, Canada. Apparently, these stops couldn't logistically fit into either the beginning or the end of the world trip."). Oh, and a visit to Hungary was declined. Not sure why some sources say 37 days (time zones?) or 45 days (including the visit to Canada a month later?) or even 24 countries (including Canada and/or including Guam or the Canary Islands as separate 'countries'?). Carcharoth ( talk) 14:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)The itinerary for the "Giantstep Apollo 11" world tour from September 29 to November 5, 1969 included the following stops: Mexico City, Mexico (Sept. 29-30); Bogota, Colombia (Sept. 30-Oct. 1); Brasilia, Brazil (Oct. 1); Buenos Aires, Argentina (Oct. 1-2); Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (Oct. 2-4); Las Palmas, Canary Islands (Oct. 4-6); Madrid, Spain (Oct. 6-8); Paris, France (Oct. 8-9); Amsterdam, Holland (Oct. 9); Brussels, Belgium (Oct. 9-10); Oslo, Norway (Oct. 10-12); Cologne/Bonn and Berlin, Germany (Oct. 12-14); London, England (Oct. 14-15); Rome, Italy (Oct. 15-18); Belgrade, Yugoslavia (Oct. 18-20); Ankara, Turkey (Oct. 20-22); Kinshasa, Zaire (Oct. 22-24); Tehran, Iran (Oct. 24-26); Bombay, India (Oct. 26-27); Dacca, East Pakistan (Oct. 27-28); Bangkok, Thailand (Oct. 28-31); Perth, Australia (Oct. 31); Sydney, Australia (Oct. 31-Nov. 2); Agana, Guam (Nov. 2-3); Seoul, Korea (Nov. 3-4); Tokyo, Japan (Nov. 4-5); Elmendorf, Alaska (Nov. 5); Ottawa and Montreal, Canada (Dec. 2-3).
[1] says it was founded by Buzz in 1996 - and he has related patents for reusable rocket launchers. Reported on at [2] - Rod57 ( talk) 12:03, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
"To verify its accuracy and authenticity, the game, is being developed in consultation with Dr. Buzz Aldrin, former U.S. Air Force combat pilot (66 missions in Korea) and NASA astronaut, who took part in the first Moon landing mission and became the second human being to walk on the Moon." Buzz Aldrin's Space Program Manager (SPM) Road to the Moon SPM On Steam 174.207.35.98 ( talk) 03:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
I know Americans have template for people names: First name / Middle name / Last name, so it makes Edwin his first name, Eugene his middle name and Aldrin his last name. But what is Buzz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.22.179.69 ( talk) 03:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I took it out, but it looks like someone made a case on it. Perhaps it should be added here or to the Apollo 11 article. Kees08 (Talk) 21:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
"Already discussed" appears to be incorrect, as the only discussion about "West Point" has pertained to the "Military career" section, not the lead. And even that didn't involve actual discussion per se. But no matter, we'll just call it a normal BRD challenge.
The "at West Point" has been in the sentence for some time as it underwent a series of incremental changes that failed to preserve readability and flow. The current sentence:
Born in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, Aldrin graduated third in his United States Military Academy at West Point class in 1951, with a degree in mechanical engineering.
is unacceptably hard to parse (what is "at West Point class in 1951"?), which is to say poor writing, and my preference for fixing that was to remove "at West Point". While it is important to mention the common name "West Point" at some point, that needn't necessarily be done in the lead and the article already does so below the lead.
But, if there is a better way to fix the poor writing, I don't object. ― Mandruss ☎ 10:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
― Mandruss ☎ 03:00, 23 July 2019 (UTC)Born in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, Aldrin graduated in 1951 from the United States Military Academy at West Point, with a degree in mechanical engineering.
Does anyone know how to go about editing information about Buzz Aldren? Marie10569 ( talk) 17:36, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Buzz is credited for being the LMP and he wasn't. It was always suppose to be Armstrong Marie10569 ( talk) 17:38, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Is there any reason we're not including his appearance on the Punky Brewster episode Accidents Happen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charleshpeckhamv ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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Please see the following item in the "Potrayal by others" section:
There are two problems with this item. The source doesn't say that the Lightyear character was "inspired by" Aldrin; it says the name is "in honor of" Aldrin. There's a big difference. This is not a "portrayal" of Aldrin. It's homage to Aldrin. If I was Aldrin I would be insulted that the article suggests that Buzz Lightyear is "portraying" Aldrin. For that reason the item needs to be reworded as follows:
"The name of the Toy Story character Buzz Lightyear was named in honor of Buzz Aldrin."
And since it is not a portrayal it needs to be moved to a different section, preferably to a separate section under "In the media". 75.191.40.148 ( talk) 00:56, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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”Aldrins paternal grandparents, Karl Johan Aldrin and Anna Nilsdotter, were Swedish immigrants who left Sweden with their children in 1892 and settled in Worcester i Massachusetts where Aldrin’s grandfather worked as a smith.”
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http://www.hhogman.se/well-known-swedish-americans.htm 84.55.87.146 ( talk) 21:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
I just read through the article, and it seems that Aldrin only worked very briefly as an engineer. He joined Lockheed Aircraft Corporation after graduating with a PhD in 1963, but then become an astronaut later that same year. Hence, I think it's a bit misleading to label him as an engineer, especially since being an engineer is not why he is notable. I propose changing the lead to:
Buzz Aldrin ( /ˈɔːldrɪn/; born Edwin Eugene Aldrin Jr.; January 20, 1930) is an American astronaut and former fighter pilot. Originally trained as an engineer, he joined NASA's Project Gemini, and made three spacewalks as pilot of the 1966 Gemini 12 mission. Aldrin was the Apollo Lunar Module pilot on the 1969 Apollo 11 mission, and he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two humans to land on the Moon.
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Since he was one of the first two people on the Moon, wasn't everything he did on the Moon the first time a person had done it on the Moon? The first steps, the first breath, the first words, etc. The lead should probably explain the relevance or leave it out. Surtsicna ( talk) 12:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
The Bart Sibrel incident section implies that the conspracy theorist "lured [Aldrin] to a Beverly Hills hotel on the pretext of being interviewed for a Japanese children's television show on the subject of space". However, Sibrel and Aldrin have both disputed this. Sibrel always stated in interviews that Aldrin had indeed given an interview to a Japanese production company before his fateful encounter. His story is backed by Aldrin.
In his Magnificent Desolation book, Aldrin specifically states: "One September morning in 2002, I was in Beverly Hills at the Luxe Hotel, filming a television interview for a Far Eastern TV network, when the interview began going in a direction that I knew was out of bounds. At first I tried to be cordial, adroitly answering the question, assuming that the interviewer would recognize my reluctance to talk about inanity, and bring the focus back to a bona fide space subject. Instead the interviewer began playing a television segment that had aired in the United States on the subject of hoaxes, including a section suggesting that the Apollo 11 moon landing never happened. I was aware of the piece and had been livid when it originally aired. I did not appreciate the interviewer's attempts to lure me into commenting on it. Lisa had accompanied me to the interview following her early morning triathlon training in the Santa Monica Bay, and she immediately recognized that this was a flagrant violation of our willingness to conduct the interview in good faith, so she called a halt to the production. We weren't belligerent, but we did not longer long over our good-byes, either. [...] As we stepped out into the hotel foyer, a large man who looked to be in his mid-thirties approached me, attempting to engage me in conversation. "Hey, Buzz, how are you?" He had his own film crew along, with the camera already rolling to document the encounter. I greeted him briefly, acknowledging his presence and kept moving-standard procedure for life in Hollywood. As Lisa and I walked through the foyer toward the front door of the hotel, however, the man kept getting in my way, peppering me with questions, none of which I answered. [...] the "interviewer" had taken out a very large Bible and was shaking it in my face, his voice becoming more animated. "Will you swear on this Bible that you really walked on the Moon?"" [1] (Emphasis added)
He never mentions the man with the bible by name, but I doubt we need to second guess who he's talking about. Should this section not be updated in light of this information to remove any potentially libelous statements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.179.17.79 ( talk) 11:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Armstrong and Aldrin the first humans..... ? What, as opposed to the first donkeys! The word 'human' is only of use when compared to other members of the animal kingdom. For heavens sake! Say it as it is. They were the first MEN … Or is it the case that if and when a woman sets foot on the Moon there will be no reference to the fact of her sex? She will just be another 'human' on the Moon? I somehow doubt it. 31.52.163.22 ( talk) 10:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Change: he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two people to land on the Moon to he and mission commander Neil Armstrong were the first two people to step on the moon. Buzz, Neil and Michael were the first people to land on the moon. 72.76.86.234 ( talk) 02:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I disappeared for a while, someone I know died, unfortunately. Anyway, to continue on what I was saying above, wouldn't questions 1 and 3 from the FAQ be better off as footnotes? They're much more visible, and it would prevent people like me from "correcting" what's in the article. I'd support leaving question 2, however; it deals with Wiki policy more than anything to do with Aldrin specifically. Esszet ( talk) 02:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Buzz Aldrin's occupation is listed as "fighter pilot." Doesn't "astronaut" -- an occupation for which he is much better known, and which was a much more important pat of his life -- make more sense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6010:210C:4DDC:1F8:6722:E4A0:651E ( talk) 19:12, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
The article now says, "With some difficulty they lifted film and two sample boxes containing 21.55 kilograms (47.5 lb) of lunar surface material to the hatch using a flat cable pulley device." This is misleading to readers because the weight of those rocks was 7.9 pounds in lunar gravity. The boxes each had a mass of 9 kg, 3.3 pounds p. 48, and the film wasn't as heavy as all that. The difficulty in performing the operation was not the weight of the items but rather manipulating the cable (LEC) covered in moon dust, attaching things and keeping them attached. See the transcript [6] from to 04 15 27 26 to 04 15 37 42 to get some idea of the challenges. Now, I'm not one to try to sneak in original research, but it seems like we can do better than just saying they had difficulty with some seemingly-heavy boxes of rocks. -- ke4roh ( talk) 20:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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Change 1972 to 1992 as the final date of Air Force service in the 4th paragraph of the inro. (or change the start date, but it currently says 1971 to 1972, and 21 years). Or suggest clarifying that he served as the Commandant for only 1 year. Pterodactylvvelociraptor ( talk) 21:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
The city that he was born in was Montclair New Jersey not Glen Ridge New Jersey as the article states and if you need a source here is the NASA file on him which has his experience, personal data, and NASA experience and you can read it here; Mozzirella ( talk) 17:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC) [1]
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BUZZ Aldrin openly admitted in recent years that they did not go to the moon. Stating "because we didn't go, and the question is why didn't we go?" , while being interviewed on camera for an 8 year old girl. Video available on YouTube for those whom are interested. 199.7.158.235 ( talk) 22:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
The ipa for his name's pronunciation in the article is /ɔːldrɪn/ yet the correct pronunciation would actually be /ɑːldrɪn/ 84.97.60.191 ( talk) 16:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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Buzz Aldrin (born 1930) is an American former astronaut, engineer and fighter pilot. He made three spacewalks as pilot of the 1966 Gemini 12 mission, and was the pilot of the Lunar Module Eagle for Apollo 11. On July 21, 1969, he and Apollo 11 mission commander Neil Armstrong became the first two people to step onto the surface of the Moon. This official NASA portrait, taken in April 1969, depicts Aldrin in a white Apollo space suit in front of a large picture of the Moon, with his helmet resting on a pedestal. Pictures of the day are chosen from the pool of featured pictures on the English Wikipedia. Editors may vote on featured picture candidates here. Photograph credit: NASA; restored by Coffeeandcrumbs
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What qualifies him for placement in Category:Last living survivors? I was surprised to notice that he was in this category, and with a quick text search, I couldn't find anything in the article that would qualify him. 49.198.51.54 ( talk) 20:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
No "Died" section on Aldrin's infobox, just a "Born" part and a reference to his age of death. Someone should add on the "Died" part. ButterCashier ( talk) 14:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
The lead paragraph states "...is an American former astronaut..." can the word "astronaut" be used both as present and past tense? I just wondering if the word "former", is necessary? Food for thought, is all. Jake Jakubowski (Talk) 15:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please insert the following as a new paragraph at the end of Awards and Honors:
In 2023 Buzz Aldrin was honorarily promoted to the U.S. Air Force rank of Brigadier General. The ceremony took place on May 5, 2023 (National Astronaut Day) at Space Systems Command, Los Angeles Space Force Base, California, with Lt Gen Michael Guetlein, USSF, Commander of Space Systems Command, presiding.
Reference 1: https://calvert.house.gov/media/press-releases/buzz-aldrin-honorarily-promoted-brigadier-general-request-rep-calvert Reference 2: https://www.ssc.spaceforce.mil/Portals/3/Space%20Systems%20Command%20Hosts%20Ceremony%20Honoring%20Astronaut%20%20Fighter%20Pilot%20Colonel%20Buzz%20Aldrin%27s%20Honorary%20Appointment%20to%20Brigadier%20General.pdf 1775sd ( talk) 20:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Bryn Thomas played Buzz Aldrin in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Lasthattrick ( talk) 15:25, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
In response to the above semi-protected edit request, the article was just updated to change Aldrin's rank to "Brigadier general". But the cited source says "Aldrin... will receive an honorary appointment to brigadier general". (italics mine). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like this is just an honor and not an actual promotion (which would be a much more formal thing, requiring, I'm pretty certain, a confirmation by the US Senate).
The headline doesn't make the distinction ("Buzz Aldrin to be promoted to Air Force brigadier general"), but headlines are incorrect summaries a lot of the time.
Unless someone can clarify that he has the actual rank, I think the rank update needs to be reverted, and the "promotion" be listed as one of his honors instead. TJRC ( talk) 23:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Buzz Aldrin appeared in Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny and was played by Bryn Thomas. Filming took place in Glasgow July 2021 Lasthattrick ( talk) 08:00, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under portrayed by others can you please add……
Bryn Thomas in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) . Source indianajones.fandom.com and collectspace.com Lasthattrick ( talk) 09:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I have to ask, is the fourth paragraph of the lead really necessary? I don't see how the fact that this ended the space race really applies to the biography of Buzz Aldrin in general, or at least isn't important enough to include in the lead beyond him already being one of the first to step foot on the moon. 2600:100E:B025:7A04:0:4E:6022:EB01 ( talk) 14:55, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
The source says 2,000 feet. I would have simply made the copy edit, but it seems a significant difference (I checked the source because of the audaciousness of the claim), so thought I might note it here. -- Usernameunique ( talk) 06:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)