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No butter is ever passed
How is this phrased in the source, and is it appropriate for an article on butter knives?
KillerChihuahua?!? 14:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)reply
In very formal dining everyone has their own little silver buter dish, and salt cellar, pepper pot etc, so no-one needs to pass anything or share.
Giano |
talk 15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Could the use of individual or shared butter knives be culturally determined? I've heard that Danes find it rather distasteful to share butter and butter knives with others, whereas Swedes don't mind that normally.
Mad Greg 22:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Nice addition to add individual knives. How many individual do you have? What is the pattern? Think name of pattern should be listed on the image.
FloNighttalk 15:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)reply
What is the difference between a butter knife and a butter spreader?
A butter spreader has a round end (so it won't poke a hole in the bread). It is used at each place setting with the bread and butter plate for formal dinners. A butter knife has a pointed end (so it can get the hard butter from the butter plate to the bread plate).
Should we call the small round-ended knives "butter spreaders", then, rather than "individual butter knives"? —
Bunchofgrapes (
talk) 01:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
"Butter knives should not be confused with individual butter spreaders, which are smaller. It (the butter knife) is used only at informal meals, not at formal events" (Page 58). Inch, Arther "Dinner is Served" 2003. People have their own little dish of butter when being grand so you don't need what Killer calls the "master knife". Arthur Inch is a retired British Butler, who advises now on period films like
Gosford park used to aork at
Blenheim Palace so probably knows what he is talking about.
Giano |
talk 08:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
I love Gosford Park... rewriting caption. Please copyedit and move to article if you wish - or let me know if another image is desired.
KillerChihuahua?!? 12:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Both of my sources call them "individual butter knives". Since the content is referenced to my sources I changed it back. We can add that they are called "butter spreaders" since someone has a source for it.
FloNighttalk 01:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
How do bad editors live with this kind of shame day after day? I could just about die from it. Apologies. —
Bunchofgrapes (
talk) 01:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Two days ago this article was causing the RUIN of wikipedia. It made many unsourced claims. We are on safe ground now! --
FloNighttalk 01:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Alas, I have sad news. The RUIN of Wikipedia still looms. Have you seen
Fish fork?
KillerChihuahua?!? 01:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Not just that but also the Easterling theory section as well as large chunks of the rest, copied wholesale from
[1]. Unless they copied us. Copyvio notice, or put on article talk page?
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
RUIN is near! Fix this quickly, puppy. The talk page I guess. Someone will scream about it though.
FloNighttalk 02:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
nope, looks like the Easterling part was copied from us.
[4] so if the Hallmarks and Century of are copyvios (and the Century looks very copyvio) it is from elsewhere.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Oh yeah, they also stole
Jewelry[5]. Theives, listing them on the Evil Evil Non Gfdl Theives page.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
nods, but they didn't get it from the silver and jewelry site Judaic.com, because the Easterling section was not from them, but written here over quite a few edits back in May 2003. The Century of Dining Regalia just screams copyvio, though - and as the same IP added Hallmarks, I'm guessing same source.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
I'd like to see added...
Why do many butter knives have a notch at the top, near the rounded end?
Sam Coskey 05:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Exactly! I was at breakfast this morning at a swank hotel and wondered the same thing! --
70.167.58.6 (
talk) 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Heh...
No mentioning of
Zak McKracken, not a single word?! I think every time I hear "butter knife", Zak comes to mind. :P -andy
92.229.72.254 (
talk) 00:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Citation problem?
Collins, Mick (2006). All-Round Genius: The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman. London: Aurum Press Limited.
ISBN1-84513-137-1.
I'm pretty sure the authorlink for the above citation (currently number six) is pointing to a different
Mick Collins, but the disambig for
Michael Collins doesn't to list anyone who seems to me to be the right Mick. Should we just remove the authorlink from the citation?
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No butter is ever passed
How is this phrased in the source, and is it appropriate for an article on butter knives?
KillerChihuahua?!? 14:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)reply
In very formal dining everyone has their own little silver buter dish, and salt cellar, pepper pot etc, so no-one needs to pass anything or share.
Giano |
talk 15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Could the use of individual or shared butter knives be culturally determined? I've heard that Danes find it rather distasteful to share butter and butter knives with others, whereas Swedes don't mind that normally.
Mad Greg 22:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Nice addition to add individual knives. How many individual do you have? What is the pattern? Think name of pattern should be listed on the image.
FloNighttalk 15:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)reply
What is the difference between a butter knife and a butter spreader?
A butter spreader has a round end (so it won't poke a hole in the bread). It is used at each place setting with the bread and butter plate for formal dinners. A butter knife has a pointed end (so it can get the hard butter from the butter plate to the bread plate).
Should we call the small round-ended knives "butter spreaders", then, rather than "individual butter knives"? —
Bunchofgrapes (
talk) 01:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
"Butter knives should not be confused with individual butter spreaders, which are smaller. It (the butter knife) is used only at informal meals, not at formal events" (Page 58). Inch, Arther "Dinner is Served" 2003. People have their own little dish of butter when being grand so you don't need what Killer calls the "master knife". Arthur Inch is a retired British Butler, who advises now on period films like
Gosford park used to aork at
Blenheim Palace so probably knows what he is talking about.
Giano |
talk 08:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
I love Gosford Park... rewriting caption. Please copyedit and move to article if you wish - or let me know if another image is desired.
KillerChihuahua?!? 12:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Both of my sources call them "individual butter knives". Since the content is referenced to my sources I changed it back. We can add that they are called "butter spreaders" since someone has a source for it.
FloNighttalk 01:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
How do bad editors live with this kind of shame day after day? I could just about die from it. Apologies. —
Bunchofgrapes (
talk) 01:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Two days ago this article was causing the RUIN of wikipedia. It made many unsourced claims. We are on safe ground now! --
FloNighttalk 01:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Alas, I have sad news. The RUIN of Wikipedia still looms. Have you seen
Fish fork?
KillerChihuahua?!? 01:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Not just that but also the Easterling theory section as well as large chunks of the rest, copied wholesale from
[1]. Unless they copied us. Copyvio notice, or put on article talk page?
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
RUIN is near! Fix this quickly, puppy. The talk page I guess. Someone will scream about it though.
FloNighttalk 02:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
nope, looks like the Easterling part was copied from us.
[4] so if the Hallmarks and Century of are copyvios (and the Century looks very copyvio) it is from elsewhere.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Oh yeah, they also stole
Jewelry[5]. Theives, listing them on the Evil Evil Non Gfdl Theives page.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
nods, but they didn't get it from the silver and jewelry site Judaic.com, because the Easterling section was not from them, but written here over quite a few edits back in May 2003. The Century of Dining Regalia just screams copyvio, though - and as the same IP added Hallmarks, I'm guessing same source.
KillerChihuahua?!? 02:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)reply
I'd like to see added...
Why do many butter knives have a notch at the top, near the rounded end?
Sam Coskey 05:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Exactly! I was at breakfast this morning at a swank hotel and wondered the same thing! --
70.167.58.6 (
talk) 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Heh...
No mentioning of
Zak McKracken, not a single word?! I think every time I hear "butter knife", Zak comes to mind. :P -andy
92.229.72.254 (
talk) 00:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Citation problem?
Collins, Mick (2006). All-Round Genius: The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman. London: Aurum Press Limited.
ISBN1-84513-137-1.
I'm pretty sure the authorlink for the above citation (currently number six) is pointing to a different
Mick Collins, but the disambig for
Michael Collins doesn't to list anyone who seems to me to be the right Mick. Should we just remove the authorlink from the citation?