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Shouldn't this article be titled Butler family or since that's a disambiguation page, Butler family (Ireland)? Dynasty usually means ruling family. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I took my cue from the article FitzGerald dynasty. It's another Norman family of the same period. The Earldom of Kildare. To change one is to change the other. Besides, the article Butler family is not as specific as this, which is with a specific family. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 17:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I am new to this and am unfamiliar with the protocols so please bear with me. I am dismayed by the sentence which states "The last Butler quit the castle and Ireland permanently in 1935". Lack of money led to the tragic and profoundly upsetting departure of the family from the home we had occupied since 1391. If there were any other option the Butler family would still reside at the Castle. The use of the word quit has an unfortunate and misleading quality to it in the subject context. I am further dismayed by the suggestion that the Butlers quit Ireland. This statement dishonors centuries of service to the Irish people and the many Butler families living in Ireland today notwithstanding the many Butler families around the world. As a Butler in the Ormonde line I respectfully request that my simple edit stands. Wryteon ( talk) 03:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I need to point out that the Eóganacht Chaisil moved out long before the Butlers came. Following the rise of the O'Brien dynasty they retreated south to form the Kingdom of Desmond, and became the famous MacCarthys Mor, MacCarthy Reagh, MacCarthy of Muskerry, O'Sullivan, O'Callaghan, etc. As far as the Osraige they did not lose the entirety of their territory and some of their kings eventually demoted themselves into the Peerage. DinDraithou ( talk) 23:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed there is no Butler family category. The FitzGeralds have one and I made ones for several of the ancient Irish dynasties, but don't really have the energy now. DinDraithou ( talk) 22:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't go on too much about the Baronets. They should probably all go and stay under See also. Baronet is essentially a non-title. I do not understand why some families even bother to mention they are baronets. Your average otherwise untitled Scottish Chief ranks considerably above one. DinDraithou ( talk) 20:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there should be a mention of the 1719 Jacobite Uprising as James Butler played a significant role. Furthermore there is a book about the 1719 which published all his letters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.128.36 ( talk) 04:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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Shouldn't this article be titled Butler family or since that's a disambiguation page, Butler family (Ireland)? Dynasty usually means ruling family. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I took my cue from the article FitzGerald dynasty. It's another Norman family of the same period. The Earldom of Kildare. To change one is to change the other. Besides, the article Butler family is not as specific as this, which is with a specific family. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 17:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I am new to this and am unfamiliar with the protocols so please bear with me. I am dismayed by the sentence which states "The last Butler quit the castle and Ireland permanently in 1935". Lack of money led to the tragic and profoundly upsetting departure of the family from the home we had occupied since 1391. If there were any other option the Butler family would still reside at the Castle. The use of the word quit has an unfortunate and misleading quality to it in the subject context. I am further dismayed by the suggestion that the Butlers quit Ireland. This statement dishonors centuries of service to the Irish people and the many Butler families living in Ireland today notwithstanding the many Butler families around the world. As a Butler in the Ormonde line I respectfully request that my simple edit stands. Wryteon ( talk) 03:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I need to point out that the Eóganacht Chaisil moved out long before the Butlers came. Following the rise of the O'Brien dynasty they retreated south to form the Kingdom of Desmond, and became the famous MacCarthys Mor, MacCarthy Reagh, MacCarthy of Muskerry, O'Sullivan, O'Callaghan, etc. As far as the Osraige they did not lose the entirety of their territory and some of their kings eventually demoted themselves into the Peerage. DinDraithou ( talk) 23:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed there is no Butler family category. The FitzGeralds have one and I made ones for several of the ancient Irish dynasties, but don't really have the energy now. DinDraithou ( talk) 22:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't go on too much about the Baronets. They should probably all go and stay under See also. Baronet is essentially a non-title. I do not understand why some families even bother to mention they are baronets. Your average otherwise untitled Scottish Chief ranks considerably above one. DinDraithou ( talk) 20:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there should be a mention of the 1719 Jacobite Uprising as James Butler played a significant role. Furthermore there is a book about the 1719 which published all his letters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.128.36 ( talk) 04:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)