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Electric streetcar tracks were removed in the 1940s. . .
The electric streetcar tracks, removed in the 1940s, are now visible again.
If the streetcar tracks were "removed," as opposed to being paved over, how would they now be "visible again"?
66.234.220.195 (
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Assuming they really do exist, are they suitable for streetcar or MAX expansion? —Preceding
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(17 months later ....) I noticed this discrepancy myself, and (without thinking to check the talk page) modified the wordings. Most likely, the tracks were simply paved over, but the treatment (paved over or removed) may have been different for on the bridge's deck vs. on the approach ramps, and I have no info. on it. The citations that are/were given make no mention—at least the pages to which those URLs currently link make no mention—of streetcar tracks, but I accept that they did so when cited, and maybe someone else can find a replacement source for the statement that the old (abandoned) tracks became visible again during the recent renovations, since that was not long ago. I also changed "the 1940s" to 1950, because the tracks remained in use until the end of city streetcar service (as opposed to interurban service) in Portland on Feb. 26, 1950, and I added a citation supporting that detail. None of Portland's last three city streetcar lines crossed the Burnside Bridge, but the cars were based at a carhouse on the east side, at 28th & Ankeny, so streetcars still crossed the Burnside Br. when going into and out of service, a fact specifically mentioned in the 1980 Oregonian article I cited. By the way, the exact end date for Portland's city streetcar system is pretty well-documented (but was notably wrong [off by two days] in the best-known book about the subject, by John Labbe in 1980) and needs no citation in this article, but I've placed citations for that info. in
this article, for anyone interested.
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Electric streetcar tracks were removed in the 1940s. . .
The electric streetcar tracks, removed in the 1940s, are now visible again.
If the streetcar tracks were "removed," as opposed to being paved over, how would they now be "visible again"?
66.234.220.195 (
talk) 15:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)reply
Assuming they really do exist, are they suitable for streetcar or MAX expansion? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
72.67.35.97 (
talk) 05:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)reply
(17 months later ....) I noticed this discrepancy myself, and (without thinking to check the talk page) modified the wordings. Most likely, the tracks were simply paved over, but the treatment (paved over or removed) may have been different for on the bridge's deck vs. on the approach ramps, and I have no info. on it. The citations that are/were given make no mention—at least the pages to which those URLs currently link make no mention—of streetcar tracks, but I accept that they did so when cited, and maybe someone else can find a replacement source for the statement that the old (abandoned) tracks became visible again during the recent renovations, since that was not long ago. I also changed "the 1940s" to 1950, because the tracks remained in use until the end of city streetcar service (as opposed to interurban service) in Portland on Feb. 26, 1950, and I added a citation supporting that detail. None of Portland's last three city streetcar lines crossed the Burnside Bridge, but the cars were based at a carhouse on the east side, at 28th & Ankeny, so streetcars still crossed the Burnside Br. when going into and out of service, a fact specifically mentioned in the 1980 Oregonian article I cited. By the way, the exact end date for Portland's city streetcar system is pretty well-documented (but was notably wrong [off by two days] in the best-known book about the subject, by John Labbe in 1980) and needs no citation in this article, but I've placed citations for that info. in
this article, for anyone interested.
SJ Morg (
talk) 06:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply