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Why is the article missing its climate chart? That is very strange for a city of this size.
I see that there is some version of the climate chart included in another person's comment on this Talk page.
I am not knowledgeable about climate charts, but it's easy to imagine that a city that is very cold and/or very snowy might want to modify its climate chart so that people don't get a negative impression of the place.
I hope that is not why the article is missing its climate chart, and I hope that an accurate one is included with the article very soon!
This should not be controversial!!! 47.44.96.195 ( talk) 18:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems like such an obvious question. 2601:200:C000:1A0:D468:F23C:FD48:2F6E ( talk) 04:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, I'm working now to try and get this article to good article and potentially featured article status. It has been a goal of mine for a very long time to do this and I think it's a possibility, even as very few city articles have reached FA-status in the past 10 years. My process is to reference the structures of FAs for Minneapolis, Boston and Cleveland. Minneapolis was recently reviewed and is the most up-to-date and in-shape of these articles. Other U.S. city FAs have not been as maintained as these, so I am not using them as a guide. So far, the Culture, Sports, Education, and some of the History sections seem to be at the high quality standard that the best Wikipedia articles have.
In addition, I have several books at my disposal that I'm referencing and they are in the bibliography of the article. Since these are mostly historical books, I may need others to reference the culture section for example. In addition, I am looking for access to the New York History Journal and hope to get this soon.
After I do more research and the article is expanded, edited and sourced properly, I will ask for it to be copy edited and will likely go straight to a GA nomination. Depending on the response I will see how feasible an FA nomination is.
I will be looking to take pictures around the area in the coming months. Many photos in this article are outdated, of lower quality, aren't as relevant to the city as a whole or have exposure issues.
If anyone has any suggestions or wishes to collaborate please let me know! Buffaboy talk 16:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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At this point in time I feel comfortable with this article's development outside of the History section, minus the econ section. Although I want to get the article to GA status, I've probably put in nearly 200 hours into editing the article so far. I know it's a lofty challenge but I believe GA is only the first step, I'd like to get the article to featured status.
With this in mind, I will be getting physical books soon mostly for the history section. Now I'm not used to note taking even though I took a research class in college, what advice could you give (if you've worked on a featured article) for effective research? What books are most appropriate, i.e. fits in with WP:NPOV? Buffaboy t and c 17:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
200 hours, good going, that's amazing. Great effort! Deathlibrarian ( talk) 23:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Buffaboy, since you feel that the article is basically ready for GA, might I ask you to fix my pet niggle? In the "Notes" section there are footnotes created using {{ harvnb}} to Goldman 1983a and 1983b. Currently there are two sources that declare themselves as 1983b and none as 1983a, so both footnotes generate harv/sfn errors. Thanks! Wham2001 ( talk) 07:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC) PS. fine-looking article otherwise!
When will you update the population in terms with the 2020 census. Jdietr601 ( talk) 01:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I can't make any sense of the population density statistics, and they're not referenced. My guess is that other values were updated without updating the stats, and they're just computed. The reference given for area leads to a list of counties in New York state, and include information about Buffalo city ... so we don't know the area. The population number is updated from the census. Without a reference, should this information be removed? Is a reference forthcoming? -- Mikeblas ( talk) 17:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
There's been some back-and-forth editing to delete and restore etc etc two different sets of population figures. One starts with 1508 in 1810 and has 278,349 in 2020. The other starts with 68 in 1810 and has 110,000 in 2020. Sound like metro-area vs city limits, but did they really have metro-area stats in 1810 and 1820 etc? Maybe they had "city and surrounding area, but it seem odd that in 1810 you'd have 68 people in the "city limits" (waterfront village I suppose) and another 1,440 in the "surrounding area". Odd and how would they know to this level of detail?
The two refs 404 on me so I don't know. Not familiar with this article, maybe someone could sort this out, maybe add a note to the list as to what it is (or another column so as to have both), maybe an internal edit notice, straighten out sources. Just pointing this out. Herostratus ( talk) 01:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Before covid-19 pandemic Bangladeshi people started to move Buffalo from NYC because of having a own house in cheap and also buying a house in cash.Bangladeshi American have a dream to have a own house in America.Also NYC rent became more higher than before. Because all of these, Bangladeshi started to move in buffalo. In covid-19 pandemic, It's became more and more. Nowadays, There are 150+ hundred thousand of Bangladeshi People live in Buffalo and near area's. Most of them has their own house. Also many of them has more than 100 or 50 houses.It's a big community in Buffalo now.And it gradually increasing day by day 27.147.201.186 ( talk) 08:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Cannibal Corpse is a very successful band from Buffalo. Worth including Dethcorenthuseast ( talk) 00:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Buffalo was so named as it was the site of the British trade in buffalo hides. ItsACityOfApes ( talk) 02:28, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
In my opinion the current iteration of the photo montage is a joke. I much prefer the iteration from earlier this year, as most of the images were newer and higher quality. For instance, the Metro Rail livery in the gallery has not been used in nearly 20 years, if not longer. The shot of City Hall is taken at a bad angle. The panorama at the top is more like a silhouette of the skyline rather than a proper capture of it. The drone image I took last year, while I did not add it to the article (and disliked it), portrays the skyline in an appropriate way. This sounds like harsh criticism but for a good article the photo gallery should be presentable. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) ( talk) 04:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
User:AndrewSan12 continues to edit-war over the first sentence of the article, adding:
My first concern is that this is a sloppy run-on sentence.
My other concern is that Administrative divisions of New York (state)--a link which User:AndrewSan12 insists on including--is both unnecessary and confusing, because that article includes "counties" as administrative divisions. Moreover, the non-US census source this editor uses to support their edit, does not include counties and does not even mention "administrative divisions".
The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Buffalo is the second largest city in New York State and center of the second largest metropolitan area in the state. It is located in the western part of the state, on Lake Erie, and is the county seat of Erie county.
Buffalo is the second largest city in New York State and center of the Buffalo–Niagara Falls metropolitan area, the second largest in the state. It is located in the western part of the state, on Lake Erie, and is the county seat of Erie county.
Erie County is the sixth largest administrative division in New York State, the five largest being the five boroughs of New York City.
Couldn't we have a better picture than one of the Peace Bridge?
Noticed in this article: /info/en/?search=Demographics_of_New_York_(state) Grovedweller ( talk) 17:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Why is the article missing its climate chart? That is very strange for a city of this size.
I see that there is some version of the climate chart included in another person's comment on this Talk page.
I am not knowledgeable about climate charts, but it's easy to imagine that a city that is very cold and/or very snowy might want to modify its climate chart so that people don't get a negative impression of the place.
I hope that is not why the article is missing its climate chart, and I hope that an accurate one is included with the article very soon!
This should not be controversial!!! 47.44.96.195 ( talk) 18:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems like such an obvious question. 2601:200:C000:1A0:D468:F23C:FD48:2F6E ( talk) 04:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello all, I'm working now to try and get this article to good article and potentially featured article status. It has been a goal of mine for a very long time to do this and I think it's a possibility, even as very few city articles have reached FA-status in the past 10 years. My process is to reference the structures of FAs for Minneapolis, Boston and Cleveland. Minneapolis was recently reviewed and is the most up-to-date and in-shape of these articles. Other U.S. city FAs have not been as maintained as these, so I am not using them as a guide. So far, the Culture, Sports, Education, and some of the History sections seem to be at the high quality standard that the best Wikipedia articles have.
In addition, I have several books at my disposal that I'm referencing and they are in the bibliography of the article. Since these are mostly historical books, I may need others to reference the culture section for example. In addition, I am looking for access to the New York History Journal and hope to get this soon.
After I do more research and the article is expanded, edited and sourced properly, I will ask for it to be copy edited and will likely go straight to a GA nomination. Depending on the response I will see how feasible an FA nomination is.
I will be looking to take pictures around the area in the coming months. Many photos in this article are outdated, of lower quality, aren't as relevant to the city as a whole or have exposure issues.
If anyone has any suggestions or wishes to collaborate please let me know! Buffaboy talk 16:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 09:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
At this point in time I feel comfortable with this article's development outside of the History section, minus the econ section. Although I want to get the article to GA status, I've probably put in nearly 200 hours into editing the article so far. I know it's a lofty challenge but I believe GA is only the first step, I'd like to get the article to featured status.
With this in mind, I will be getting physical books soon mostly for the history section. Now I'm not used to note taking even though I took a research class in college, what advice could you give (if you've worked on a featured article) for effective research? What books are most appropriate, i.e. fits in with WP:NPOV? Buffaboy t and c 17:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
200 hours, good going, that's amazing. Great effort! Deathlibrarian ( talk) 23:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Buffaboy, since you feel that the article is basically ready for GA, might I ask you to fix my pet niggle? In the "Notes" section there are footnotes created using {{ harvnb}} to Goldman 1983a and 1983b. Currently there are two sources that declare themselves as 1983b and none as 1983a, so both footnotes generate harv/sfn errors. Thanks! Wham2001 ( talk) 07:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC) PS. fine-looking article otherwise!
When will you update the population in terms with the 2020 census. Jdietr601 ( talk) 01:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I can't make any sense of the population density statistics, and they're not referenced. My guess is that other values were updated without updating the stats, and they're just computed. The reference given for area leads to a list of counties in New York state, and include information about Buffalo city ... so we don't know the area. The population number is updated from the census. Without a reference, should this information be removed? Is a reference forthcoming? -- Mikeblas ( talk) 17:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
There's been some back-and-forth editing to delete and restore etc etc two different sets of population figures. One starts with 1508 in 1810 and has 278,349 in 2020. The other starts with 68 in 1810 and has 110,000 in 2020. Sound like metro-area vs city limits, but did they really have metro-area stats in 1810 and 1820 etc? Maybe they had "city and surrounding area, but it seem odd that in 1810 you'd have 68 people in the "city limits" (waterfront village I suppose) and another 1,440 in the "surrounding area". Odd and how would they know to this level of detail?
The two refs 404 on me so I don't know. Not familiar with this article, maybe someone could sort this out, maybe add a note to the list as to what it is (or another column so as to have both), maybe an internal edit notice, straighten out sources. Just pointing this out. Herostratus ( talk) 01:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Before covid-19 pandemic Bangladeshi people started to move Buffalo from NYC because of having a own house in cheap and also buying a house in cash.Bangladeshi American have a dream to have a own house in America.Also NYC rent became more higher than before. Because all of these, Bangladeshi started to move in buffalo. In covid-19 pandemic, It's became more and more. Nowadays, There are 150+ hundred thousand of Bangladeshi People live in Buffalo and near area's. Most of them has their own house. Also many of them has more than 100 or 50 houses.It's a big community in Buffalo now.And it gradually increasing day by day 27.147.201.186 ( talk) 08:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Cannibal Corpse is a very successful band from Buffalo. Worth including Dethcorenthuseast ( talk) 00:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Buffalo was so named as it was the site of the British trade in buffalo hides. ItsACityOfApes ( talk) 02:28, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
In my opinion the current iteration of the photo montage is a joke. I much prefer the iteration from earlier this year, as most of the images were newer and higher quality. For instance, the Metro Rail livery in the gallery has not been used in nearly 20 years, if not longer. The shot of City Hall is taken at a bad angle. The panorama at the top is more like a silhouette of the skyline rather than a proper capture of it. The drone image I took last year, while I did not add it to the article (and disliked it), portrays the skyline in an appropriate way. This sounds like harsh criticism but for a good article the photo gallery should be presentable. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) ( talk) 04:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
User:AndrewSan12 continues to edit-war over the first sentence of the article, adding:
My first concern is that this is a sloppy run-on sentence.
My other concern is that Administrative divisions of New York (state)--a link which User:AndrewSan12 insists on including--is both unnecessary and confusing, because that article includes "counties" as administrative divisions. Moreover, the non-US census source this editor uses to support their edit, does not include counties and does not even mention "administrative divisions".
The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Buffalo is the second largest city in New York State and center of the second largest metropolitan area in the state. It is located in the western part of the state, on Lake Erie, and is the county seat of Erie county.
Buffalo is the second largest city in New York State and center of the Buffalo–Niagara Falls metropolitan area, the second largest in the state. It is located in the western part of the state, on Lake Erie, and is the county seat of Erie county.
Erie County is the sixth largest administrative division in New York State, the five largest being the five boroughs of New York City.
Couldn't we have a better picture than one of the Peace Bridge?
Noticed in this article: /info/en/?search=Demographics_of_New_York_(state) Grovedweller ( talk) 17:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)