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Moved info, reformatted, etc. Per WP:NAMEPEOPLE: Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens The most used name to refer to a person is generally the one that Wikipedia will choose as page name, even if this sounds awkward for those seeing the name the first time. See Kit Bond for an established example. -- Easter Monkey 14:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
In the fourth paragraph, the sentence "...he was re-captured by the Viet Cong." seems a little misleading, since his first capture was by the North. Is anyone opposed to changing it to: "he was captured again, this time by the Viet Cong." Hildenja 16:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Though the current family picture is very cute, is there a more encyclopedic picture that can be used for this article? Bud Day is not encyclopedic b/c he is a grandfather, but b.c of his past exploits. Djma12 03:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
This is a stub ie. the medal of honor citaiton is missing.
It's well documented that Colonel Day has been extremely active on the political scence in the last 9 years. This includes, though not limited to, his activity on behalf of U.S. veterans of the armed services, personal political motivations/affiliations and republican presidential campaigns, including the campaigns of 2000, 2004, and 2008 for both Mr. McCain and Mr. Bush. It seems relevant to note these activities in this BLP given that there are plenty of sources documenting this. How these activities reflect on Colonel Day's article/biography should not affect their possible inclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erkenbrack ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The 'Retirement' section states that among the aircraft Day flew were the CF-5 Tiger and CF-18 Hornet. This seems strange as those appear to be the Canadian Forces designations, but Day was a USAF pilot. Can anyone explain what's going on there? - Joshuapaquin ( talk) 13:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Needs be converted from a vertical list into a table format like Chesty_Puller#Awards_and_honors. Also needs to include {{ Ribbon devices}}. — MrDolomite • Talk 21:10, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's a list of the medals I can identify in the nice Dress Whites high-res pic from 1987 (10 years after retirement) shown on the right. I wish we had this for everyone! They are in order of precedence (top to bottom, left to right). Comments follow.
Here are issues in comparison with the current WP article:
1. Unidentified ribbons at J1, J2, and J4.
2. At I1, the NOV is a plain ribbon, which, according to our page is the Knight degree, not Commander.
3. At H2, the Air Force Longevity Service Award has 4 bronze instead of 1 silver cluster. How many total years would be be entitled to, since he apparently got over another 4-year mark between whenever our list came from and 1987.
4. At E2, the PUC has an extra bronze cluster. Maybe a unit was awarded the citation retroactively, or our original list failed to recognize the citation for one of his units?
5. At C3 and D1, there are two Bronze Star Medals plus a "V" and two bronze service stars (total of 4 awards) instead of our list's single ribbon with a "V" and 3 bronze oak clusters (also 4 awards). This says he was awarded the medal three times (plus a "V") for service in the USMC, and just once for service in the USA or USAF. Does this make sense?
6. (not pictured) Hanging below his MOH medal is another medal with the words "MEDAL OF VALOR", "GOVERNOR", "? OF IOWA", and "GREAT SEAL OF THE STATE OF IOWA". I'm guessing this could be the Iowa National Guard Medal of Valor?
7. He doesn't seem to be wearing a Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal.
8. He doesn't seem to be wearing a Prisoner of War Medal.
9. According to our (i.e. WP's) order of precedence, he's wearing the Purple Heart two notches too low (it should be right below the Bronze Star).
10. He's wearing the United Nations Service Medal for Korea above the Vietnam Gallantry Crosses, which makes sense (AFAIK, foreign awards have equal precedence and should be in order awarded).
Comments? Help? —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 18:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am the founder of Veteran Tributes, and I'm here to chime in on your discussion about Bud Day's decorations. A correct list of his decorations would be exactly the way they are shown on his tribute page I created for him here. This list has been compared against both his actual military records from the National Personnel Records Center, as well as against what I have learned from talking to him in person (some of the ribbons/medals are not on his uniform in various photos because of different time periods...some of the decorations he is authorized were not even created until after many of the photos of him in uniform were taken. For instance, in the high resolution photo of him in his Air Force Whites (a picture he absolutely hated by the way, and I wish someone would replace it with something else), he isn't wearing the POW Medal or his Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal. That's because the POW Medal wasn't created until 1988, a few years after that photo was taken; and the Commandant of the Marine Corps didn't award him his Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal until much later at a military function. The Commandant awarded it for his service as a Marine in WWII, but because Bud and a friend went joyriding in a Jeep, he wasn't presented it at the end of his Marine Corps service.
I am officially the Assistant Historian for NAM-POWs, the Association of Former Vietnam Prisoners of War, and it's my job to make sure all of these tributes for the POWs are historically accurate.
So with that said, here's your correct list of Bud Day's decorations:
The Psychological Warfare Medal should have a metal device that looks something like megaphones on it, but I haven't been able to digitally duplicate it yet. The reason the Air Force Longevity Service Award ribbon has a silver and bronze cluster is because that ribbon actually covers each 4 years of service in ANY branch of the military, not just the Air Force, which was a little-known rule about that ribbon.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to e-mail me at info@veterantributes.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wysiwyg1973 ( talk • contribs) 01:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
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Bud Day was promoted to brigadier general on the retired list in the NDAA for 2017. See this link: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2943/text?r=231. Should his rank be changed? Snakeskinsam 23:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakeskinsam ( talk • contribs)
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Some questions on comparison with this source, perhaps for @ Wysiwyg1973:
col. day awarded M.O.H. by pres.nixon[during pres. fords tenure] 2603:9000:8801:59BC:ED75:A968:E35B:8170 ( talk) 21:13, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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Moved info, reformatted, etc. Per WP:NAMEPEOPLE: Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens The most used name to refer to a person is generally the one that Wikipedia will choose as page name, even if this sounds awkward for those seeing the name the first time. See Kit Bond for an established example. -- Easter Monkey 14:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
In the fourth paragraph, the sentence "...he was re-captured by the Viet Cong." seems a little misleading, since his first capture was by the North. Is anyone opposed to changing it to: "he was captured again, this time by the Viet Cong." Hildenja 16:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Though the current family picture is very cute, is there a more encyclopedic picture that can be used for this article? Bud Day is not encyclopedic b/c he is a grandfather, but b.c of his past exploits. Djma12 03:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
This is a stub ie. the medal of honor citaiton is missing.
It's well documented that Colonel Day has been extremely active on the political scence in the last 9 years. This includes, though not limited to, his activity on behalf of U.S. veterans of the armed services, personal political motivations/affiliations and republican presidential campaigns, including the campaigns of 2000, 2004, and 2008 for both Mr. McCain and Mr. Bush. It seems relevant to note these activities in this BLP given that there are plenty of sources documenting this. How these activities reflect on Colonel Day's article/biography should not affect their possible inclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erkenbrack ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The 'Retirement' section states that among the aircraft Day flew were the CF-5 Tiger and CF-18 Hornet. This seems strange as those appear to be the Canadian Forces designations, but Day was a USAF pilot. Can anyone explain what's going on there? - Joshuapaquin ( talk) 13:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Needs be converted from a vertical list into a table format like Chesty_Puller#Awards_and_honors. Also needs to include {{ Ribbon devices}}. — MrDolomite • Talk 21:10, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's a list of the medals I can identify in the nice Dress Whites high-res pic from 1987 (10 years after retirement) shown on the right. I wish we had this for everyone! They are in order of precedence (top to bottom, left to right). Comments follow.
Here are issues in comparison with the current WP article:
1. Unidentified ribbons at J1, J2, and J4.
2. At I1, the NOV is a plain ribbon, which, according to our page is the Knight degree, not Commander.
3. At H2, the Air Force Longevity Service Award has 4 bronze instead of 1 silver cluster. How many total years would be be entitled to, since he apparently got over another 4-year mark between whenever our list came from and 1987.
4. At E2, the PUC has an extra bronze cluster. Maybe a unit was awarded the citation retroactively, or our original list failed to recognize the citation for one of his units?
5. At C3 and D1, there are two Bronze Star Medals plus a "V" and two bronze service stars (total of 4 awards) instead of our list's single ribbon with a "V" and 3 bronze oak clusters (also 4 awards). This says he was awarded the medal three times (plus a "V") for service in the USMC, and just once for service in the USA or USAF. Does this make sense?
6. (not pictured) Hanging below his MOH medal is another medal with the words "MEDAL OF VALOR", "GOVERNOR", "? OF IOWA", and "GREAT SEAL OF THE STATE OF IOWA". I'm guessing this could be the Iowa National Guard Medal of Valor?
7. He doesn't seem to be wearing a Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal.
8. He doesn't seem to be wearing a Prisoner of War Medal.
9. According to our (i.e. WP's) order of precedence, he's wearing the Purple Heart two notches too low (it should be right below the Bronze Star).
10. He's wearing the United Nations Service Medal for Korea above the Vietnam Gallantry Crosses, which makes sense (AFAIK, foreign awards have equal precedence and should be in order awarded).
Comments? Help? —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 18:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I am the founder of Veteran Tributes, and I'm here to chime in on your discussion about Bud Day's decorations. A correct list of his decorations would be exactly the way they are shown on his tribute page I created for him here. This list has been compared against both his actual military records from the National Personnel Records Center, as well as against what I have learned from talking to him in person (some of the ribbons/medals are not on his uniform in various photos because of different time periods...some of the decorations he is authorized were not even created until after many of the photos of him in uniform were taken. For instance, in the high resolution photo of him in his Air Force Whites (a picture he absolutely hated by the way, and I wish someone would replace it with something else), he isn't wearing the POW Medal or his Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal. That's because the POW Medal wasn't created until 1988, a few years after that photo was taken; and the Commandant of the Marine Corps didn't award him his Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal until much later at a military function. The Commandant awarded it for his service as a Marine in WWII, but because Bud and a friend went joyriding in a Jeep, he wasn't presented it at the end of his Marine Corps service.
I am officially the Assistant Historian for NAM-POWs, the Association of Former Vietnam Prisoners of War, and it's my job to make sure all of these tributes for the POWs are historically accurate.
So with that said, here's your correct list of Bud Day's decorations:
The Psychological Warfare Medal should have a metal device that looks something like megaphones on it, but I haven't been able to digitally duplicate it yet. The reason the Air Force Longevity Service Award ribbon has a silver and bronze cluster is because that ribbon actually covers each 4 years of service in ANY branch of the military, not just the Air Force, which was a little-known rule about that ribbon.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to e-mail me at info@veterantributes.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wysiwyg1973 ( talk • contribs) 01:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
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Bud Day was promoted to brigadier general on the retired list in the NDAA for 2017. See this link: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2943/text?r=231. Should his rank be changed? Snakeskinsam 23:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakeskinsam ( talk • contribs)
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Some questions on comparison with this source, perhaps for @ Wysiwyg1973:
col. day awarded M.O.H. by pres.nixon[during pres. fords tenure] 2603:9000:8801:59BC:ED75:A968:E35B:8170 ( talk) 21:13, 14 September 2023 (UTC)