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This page needs a lot of work, anyone who knows anything about botany could make a huge difference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Zach ( talk • contribs) 05:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 18:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The reason there is no Taxobox on this page is that this is not a taxon. There is no taxobox on Marine mammal or Ediacaran biota or the List of poisonous plants, because none of these pages describes a taxon. Likewise, the bryophytes are not a taxon, but merely an assemblage of plants with similar life-cycles. The most narrowly inclusive taxon to which they all belong is the Embryophytes, and the Taxobox is on that page accordingly. -- EncycloPetey 00:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe it should be merged because as stated in Modern Biology Albert Towle et al. on p. 583 "The three phyla of nonvascular plants are collectively called bryophytes. Meaning that there should be one article please tell me if you are in favor or opposed to this merge. Etineskid ( talk) 21:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, whenever the paraphyletic group is mentioned, it is put in inverted commas so as not to confuse it with the monophyletic Bryophyta. Would it be appropriate to apply that to this article? Mastercampbell ( talk) 08:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The previous version had two problems:
My revision is internally consistent, but would benefit from a referenced alternative view. Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:21, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
These two sections seem to have some overlap and perhaps should be merged into one section. The bit about haploid and diploid seems to me distracting--readers should read the alt. of gen. page if they want to understand the haploid vs. diploid phases. If we keep that reference to chromosomes, I would suggest saying haploid has one full set, while diploid has two full sets of chromosomes, as it is potentially confusing as written. Michaplot ( talk) 15:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
The recent edits seemed to be in good faith, but some of the sources were inadequate. If the information is accurate, it could have better support. The editor might benefit by creating a user id as well. Michaplot ( talk) 04:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Complete botanic newbie here, but from a nonspecialist perspective, reading this interesting page through, one arrives at two tables (under 'Comparison') which classify using a terminology ('Hepaticae; Muscil; Anthocerotae') which is not previously mentioned on the page. Although research on other Wikipedia pages let me understand these terms, perhaps they should be defined previously on this page, or explained in a caption or a footnote to the tables, which would assist the naive reader. Denisdecastro ( talk) 21:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Isn't the image wrong? It shows gametophytes both to the left and to the right. Moss gametophytes are haploid and should only appear on the right hand side of the picture, unless I am more mistaken than usual. Mlewan ( talk) 20:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
in the right side of the image is seen:
Male gametophyte spore (1n) --> female gametophyte (1n), and
female gametohyte spore (1n) --> male gametophyte (1n)
Which, of course, is wrong.
I think the error can confuse people who encounter plant reproduction for the first time.
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Bryde Pyrus (
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Under the heading "Habitat", the final sentence states "Bryophytes can survive on rocks and bare soil." I'm no botanist, but this statement strikes me as odd, because while few people would expect any kind of plant to be able to grow on bare rock, most people would presume that plants can indeed survive on "bare soil". If I'm not mistaken, most plants do grow on bare soil. Should this sentence be changed for clarity? Bricology ( talk) 01:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that, thanks to recent sequencing efforts and in-depth molecular phylogenies, the strong scientific consensus is now that bryophytes form a monophyletic clade containing mosses, liverworts, and hornworts [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. (I haven't missed anything to the contrary, have I?) Can I propose an overhaul of the classification sections on this page and also Moss? What should be kept and what can now be deleted as irrelevant/misleading? Can this page now get a taxobox? Ribbit-ol ( talk) 11:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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This page needs a lot of work, anyone who knows anything about botany could make a huge difference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Zach ( talk • contribs) 05:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Rlmurphy, Larissanaidoo. Peer reviewers: Jjlord, Jaoconnell.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 18:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The reason there is no Taxobox on this page is that this is not a taxon. There is no taxobox on Marine mammal or Ediacaran biota or the List of poisonous plants, because none of these pages describes a taxon. Likewise, the bryophytes are not a taxon, but merely an assemblage of plants with similar life-cycles. The most narrowly inclusive taxon to which they all belong is the Embryophytes, and the Taxobox is on that page accordingly. -- EncycloPetey 00:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe it should be merged because as stated in Modern Biology Albert Towle et al. on p. 583 "The three phyla of nonvascular plants are collectively called bryophytes. Meaning that there should be one article please tell me if you are in favor or opposed to this merge. Etineskid ( talk) 21:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, whenever the paraphyletic group is mentioned, it is put in inverted commas so as not to confuse it with the monophyletic Bryophyta. Would it be appropriate to apply that to this article? Mastercampbell ( talk) 08:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The previous version had two problems:
My revision is internally consistent, but would benefit from a referenced alternative view. Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:21, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
These two sections seem to have some overlap and perhaps should be merged into one section. The bit about haploid and diploid seems to me distracting--readers should read the alt. of gen. page if they want to understand the haploid vs. diploid phases. If we keep that reference to chromosomes, I would suggest saying haploid has one full set, while diploid has two full sets of chromosomes, as it is potentially confusing as written. Michaplot ( talk) 15:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
The recent edits seemed to be in good faith, but some of the sources were inadequate. If the information is accurate, it could have better support. The editor might benefit by creating a user id as well. Michaplot ( talk) 04:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Complete botanic newbie here, but from a nonspecialist perspective, reading this interesting page through, one arrives at two tables (under 'Comparison') which classify using a terminology ('Hepaticae; Muscil; Anthocerotae') which is not previously mentioned on the page. Although research on other Wikipedia pages let me understand these terms, perhaps they should be defined previously on this page, or explained in a caption or a footnote to the tables, which would assist the naive reader. Denisdecastro ( talk) 21:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Isn't the image wrong? It shows gametophytes both to the left and to the right. Moss gametophytes are haploid and should only appear on the right hand side of the picture, unless I am more mistaken than usual. Mlewan ( talk) 20:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
in the right side of the image is seen:
Male gametophyte spore (1n) --> female gametophyte (1n), and
female gametohyte spore (1n) --> male gametophyte (1n)
Which, of course, is wrong.
I think the error can confuse people who encounter plant reproduction for the first time.
--
Bryde Pyrus (
talk) 18:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Under the heading "Habitat", the final sentence states "Bryophytes can survive on rocks and bare soil." I'm no botanist, but this statement strikes me as odd, because while few people would expect any kind of plant to be able to grow on bare rock, most people would presume that plants can indeed survive on "bare soil". If I'm not mistaken, most plants do grow on bare soil. Should this sentence be changed for clarity? Bricology ( talk) 01:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that, thanks to recent sequencing efforts and in-depth molecular phylogenies, the strong scientific consensus is now that bryophytes form a monophyletic clade containing mosses, liverworts, and hornworts [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. (I haven't missed anything to the contrary, have I?) Can I propose an overhaul of the classification sections on this page and also Moss? What should be kept and what can now be deleted as irrelevant/misleading? Can this page now get a taxobox? Ribbit-ol ( talk) 11:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)