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Revision as of 15:36, 6 April 2009

Former good article nomineeBryan Adams was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 3, 2007 Good article nomineeNot listed
September 17, 2008 Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Genre

I removed Classic Rock from the genre list, because it's a radio format, not a genre of music, and hard rock, because it seems a little ridiculous to call Bryan Adams hard rock. I'd keep soft rock and arena rock, but I'm not sure about pop rock. I guess he could fit into that category. Perhaps someone who has better knowledge of Bryan Adam's music could help out here, since I only know the songs on his Greatest Hits album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrimReaper39614 ( talkcontribs) 14:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC) reply

Arena rock is probably the best describing genre for Adams music in general. Also soft rock, album-oriented rock, and hard rock should be mentioned. His album On a Day Like Today probably has a few pop rock songs on it, but in general I wouldn't say it is his genre. Pardy 07:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC). reply
Isn't album oriented rock a radio format as well? Maybe rock n roll should be there as well? Daskill 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Its Rock, Rock N' Roll and Soft rock, all the other genres are radio formats. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 07:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC) reply

It's Middle Of The Road -- 195.83.89.138 ( talk) 14:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Trivia Section

Why has the trivia section been re-added? You know how wikipedia frowns on trivia sections. I spent time integrating the trivia into main article and now it's back? Daskill 22:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC) reply

I take the responsibility for the name "Trivia", it was originally called "Personal life", but was in the same plot-form, and some of the facts were not about Adams personal life, so I renamed the session. But let's try to move the trivia-facts into the main text. Pardy 08:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC). reply

Chutney Ferret

Now that isn't very polite, is it? Mornington 02:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Hehe, that expression always makes me laugh. Daskill 00:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams photography

I would like to add an wiki Bryan Adams Photography page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Badfan69 ( talkcontribs) 18:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Hi Badfan69. You can aupload pictures here, and add them to Bryan Adams wiki photography page here, but only if you are the copyrightholder of the pictures or they are for free use. Pardy 07:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC). reply

Middle Name

I've edited this out of the top paragraph and put it under personal life as Adams has never used a middle name. Michelle1 ( talk) 16:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams being English-Canadian

I have recently been looking on his page for information on his new album and noticed it stated Canadian, Which is fine. I went on a couple of hours later to find it had been changed to English-Canadian, which I actually agree with.

Now it stated on the actual page that an English-Canadian is just an English speaking Canadian in general, which is being very "broad" so to speak, however it goes on to say something along the lines of its generally someone who was Canadian born but with English Ancestry. Now this in fact is true, as it actually states in his early life section that both his parents were born in England (ignoring the Maltese ancestory part which is also true). Now unless its something to do with the fact that he also has strong Maltese ancestory, I think that English-Canadian should replace simply Canadian, its much more specific and accurate. Mike Myers the actor is in the exact same position, hes even worthy of one of the six people pictured on the English-Canadian page. He too is Canadian born with English parents and it states it on the page that his parents were both born in Liverpool. Hes also got English-Canadian instead of simply Canadian under his nationality and hes even, like I said, worthy of one of the six people pictured on the English-Canadian page.

Now until someone responds to this comment and gives me a good reason why not, I am changing it back to English-Canadian as opposed to simply Canadian, and if anything he also deserves his picture on the English-Canadian page, he is a very respectable and dam good English-Canadian musician, and a great songwriter at that. TomKing1980 ( talk) 21:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC) reply


Although you raise some good points, I do not think he identifies himself as an English-Canadian. In various interviews in the U.S. over the years, he simply stated that he was Canadian. I would go with what he says as opposed to making things complicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdal0 ( talkcontribs) 03:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Thank you for this great article...

When I was in High School and in College, I didn't like Bryan Adams's music very much. I was parochial in my music tastes, eschewing most of the mainstream music that I had grown up with. Instead, I favored the "alternative" music that was popular among teens and young adults. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I began to remember some of his hits, and began to explore the Internet, finding out more about him. I have changed my position, and I'm now a big fan.

It isn't a big stretch for me -- as a young teenager, I enjoyed the music of many pop acts, including Billy Joel and Pink Floyd. I have always gravitated toward unique-sounding artists, especially those from Britain.

There isn't a lot of plain-old "rock" music that moves me. Most of what I listen to is synthesizer-driven. However, there is a visceral need that Adams satisfies. His songs are well-produced, which is something that I appreciate, but sound raw enough to be powerful.

Some of my favorites include Heaven, Summer of 69, It's Only Love, Cuts Like a Knife, Run to You, and Heat of the Night.

Again, thanks for this article. If I have anything to improve it with, I will, but right now I'm content to read and to enjoy.

Sammy

SammyJames ( talk) 18:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC) reply


Album "11"

I noticed that there was a duplication on the album info for 11. I reorganized the info and put it in sequence with his other album info. The intro to the article seems a bit scarce, but the lists of album rankings in each country seemed a bit out of place and redundant.

TravelinSista ( talk) 14:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams videography

Can somebody help me find his music videos. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 09:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams Record Sales

I noticed in the intro of the page, it mentions BA has sold 65 million records. This is a hypothetical number and this fact should be removed unless someone can substaniate it. Michelle1 ( talk) 02:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Associated acts

All the associated acts for BA was listed in the discography. What happened to that section? Michelle1 ( talk) 12:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC) reply

the introduction

i've noticed there are various edits going back and forth on the intro of this page note: there is no need to repeat information in the intro, when i follows in the next paragraph! Michelle1 ( talk) 21:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Genre

Do anyone want to add another genre, if you want find a reliable source for it, don't just add it, wikipedia isn't the place for personnal opinions. Right now Rock, Rock N' Roll and Soft rock are the only genres in the infobox, no one remove them, they have a reliable source. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 19:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC) reply

2006 Juno Award Speech

"In his acceptance speech for his induction into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame at the 2006 Juno Awards, he named his long-time guitarist Keith Scott as his best friend. The two have been playing together for over 25 years."

I think this section should either be expanding upon, or completely removed because its irrelevant, in that acceptance speech (which you can view here) Keith is one of many, many people he thanks, like his family, the song writers, his record label, his management, and then his band, then his stage crew, and even User:Michelle1 herself (at least that’s who I think he means by Michelle), and then the fans themselves.
I doesn’t make sense to me to just single out Keith in this, he has even known his manager for longer (30 years).
I think if there really needs to be a section on his Juno 2006 award, it should mention during the acceptance speech he said "being here tonight is about the effort and time devoted to many people behind the scenes, not just the singer" and went on to thank pretty much everyone who helped him get to where he was. Silver007 ( talk) 02:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC) reply

You are right, its not importent, i have been thinking of removing it for a while now but hadn't botherd cause i've been working on adding sources on the article. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 16:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Now, or back then

"which starts" is now, but should be "it started". Look at all the others as well.-- 212.241.64.236 ( talk) 21:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC) reply

GAs

Can somebody help me turn the 18 til I Die article to GA status as i did with the Run to You article and Waking Up the Neighbours. Be Black Hole Sun ( talk · contribs)

Good Article Review — Failed

The article has seen some good improvements since the last GAN, but there are still quite a few outstanding problems:

  • The "Social Activist" section is plagued by one-line paragraphs and statements that are not chronologically ordered.
  • Tons of grammar and WP:MoS breaches. A thorough copyedit is needed.
  • There are a couple irrelevant sections. For example, "as a photographer" can be removed entirely. A brief and concise statement about his photography and social activism should be amalgamated into one section, titled something along the lines of "Work outside of music".
  • The way the article is written it feels like everything is being relayed very bluntly. Information is presented without any flow or transition whatsoever.

Overall, there's still too much wrong with the article for it to be near GA-quality. I suggest a very thorough and in-depth rewrite, including outside help from copyeditors. NSR77 T C 21:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Revision as of 15:36, 6 April 2009

Former good article nomineeBryan Adams was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 3, 2007 Good article nomineeNot listed
September 17, 2008 Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Genre

I removed Classic Rock from the genre list, because it's a radio format, not a genre of music, and hard rock, because it seems a little ridiculous to call Bryan Adams hard rock. I'd keep soft rock and arena rock, but I'm not sure about pop rock. I guess he could fit into that category. Perhaps someone who has better knowledge of Bryan Adam's music could help out here, since I only know the songs on his Greatest Hits album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrimReaper39614 ( talkcontribs) 14:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC) reply

Arena rock is probably the best describing genre for Adams music in general. Also soft rock, album-oriented rock, and hard rock should be mentioned. His album On a Day Like Today probably has a few pop rock songs on it, but in general I wouldn't say it is his genre. Pardy 07:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC). reply
Isn't album oriented rock a radio format as well? Maybe rock n roll should be there as well? Daskill 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC) reply
Its Rock, Rock N' Roll and Soft rock, all the other genres are radio formats. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 07:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC) reply

It's Middle Of The Road -- 195.83.89.138 ( talk) 14:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Trivia Section

Why has the trivia section been re-added? You know how wikipedia frowns on trivia sections. I spent time integrating the trivia into main article and now it's back? Daskill 22:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC) reply

I take the responsibility for the name "Trivia", it was originally called "Personal life", but was in the same plot-form, and some of the facts were not about Adams personal life, so I renamed the session. But let's try to move the trivia-facts into the main text. Pardy 08:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC). reply

Chutney Ferret

Now that isn't very polite, is it? Mornington 02:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Hehe, that expression always makes me laugh. Daskill 00:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams photography

I would like to add an wiki Bryan Adams Photography page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Badfan69 ( talkcontribs) 18:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Hi Badfan69. You can aupload pictures here, and add them to Bryan Adams wiki photography page here, but only if you are the copyrightholder of the pictures or they are for free use. Pardy 07:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC). reply

Middle Name

I've edited this out of the top paragraph and put it under personal life as Adams has never used a middle name. Michelle1 ( talk) 16:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams being English-Canadian

I have recently been looking on his page for information on his new album and noticed it stated Canadian, Which is fine. I went on a couple of hours later to find it had been changed to English-Canadian, which I actually agree with.

Now it stated on the actual page that an English-Canadian is just an English speaking Canadian in general, which is being very "broad" so to speak, however it goes on to say something along the lines of its generally someone who was Canadian born but with English Ancestry. Now this in fact is true, as it actually states in his early life section that both his parents were born in England (ignoring the Maltese ancestory part which is also true). Now unless its something to do with the fact that he also has strong Maltese ancestory, I think that English-Canadian should replace simply Canadian, its much more specific and accurate. Mike Myers the actor is in the exact same position, hes even worthy of one of the six people pictured on the English-Canadian page. He too is Canadian born with English parents and it states it on the page that his parents were both born in Liverpool. Hes also got English-Canadian instead of simply Canadian under his nationality and hes even, like I said, worthy of one of the six people pictured on the English-Canadian page.

Now until someone responds to this comment and gives me a good reason why not, I am changing it back to English-Canadian as opposed to simply Canadian, and if anything he also deserves his picture on the English-Canadian page, he is a very respectable and dam good English-Canadian musician, and a great songwriter at that. TomKing1980 ( talk) 21:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC) reply


Although you raise some good points, I do not think he identifies himself as an English-Canadian. In various interviews in the U.S. over the years, he simply stated that he was Canadian. I would go with what he says as opposed to making things complicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdal0 ( talkcontribs) 03:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Thank you for this great article...

When I was in High School and in College, I didn't like Bryan Adams's music very much. I was parochial in my music tastes, eschewing most of the mainstream music that I had grown up with. Instead, I favored the "alternative" music that was popular among teens and young adults. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I began to remember some of his hits, and began to explore the Internet, finding out more about him. I have changed my position, and I'm now a big fan.

It isn't a big stretch for me -- as a young teenager, I enjoyed the music of many pop acts, including Billy Joel and Pink Floyd. I have always gravitated toward unique-sounding artists, especially those from Britain.

There isn't a lot of plain-old "rock" music that moves me. Most of what I listen to is synthesizer-driven. However, there is a visceral need that Adams satisfies. His songs are well-produced, which is something that I appreciate, but sound raw enough to be powerful.

Some of my favorites include Heaven, Summer of 69, It's Only Love, Cuts Like a Knife, Run to You, and Heat of the Night.

Again, thanks for this article. If I have anything to improve it with, I will, but right now I'm content to read and to enjoy.

Sammy

SammyJames ( talk) 18:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC) reply


Album "11"

I noticed that there was a duplication on the album info for 11. I reorganized the info and put it in sequence with his other album info. The intro to the article seems a bit scarce, but the lists of album rankings in each country seemed a bit out of place and redundant.

TravelinSista ( talk) 14:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams videography

Can somebody help me find his music videos. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 09:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Bryan Adams Record Sales

I noticed in the intro of the page, it mentions BA has sold 65 million records. This is a hypothetical number and this fact should be removed unless someone can substaniate it. Michelle1 ( talk) 02:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Associated acts

All the associated acts for BA was listed in the discography. What happened to that section? Michelle1 ( talk) 12:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC) reply

the introduction

i've noticed there are various edits going back and forth on the intro of this page note: there is no need to repeat information in the intro, when i follows in the next paragraph! Michelle1 ( talk) 21:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Genre

Do anyone want to add another genre, if you want find a reliable source for it, don't just add it, wikipedia isn't the place for personnal opinions. Right now Rock, Rock N' Roll and Soft rock are the only genres in the infobox, no one remove them, they have a reliable source. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 19:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC) reply

2006 Juno Award Speech

"In his acceptance speech for his induction into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame at the 2006 Juno Awards, he named his long-time guitarist Keith Scott as his best friend. The two have been playing together for over 25 years."

I think this section should either be expanding upon, or completely removed because its irrelevant, in that acceptance speech (which you can view here) Keith is one of many, many people he thanks, like his family, the song writers, his record label, his management, and then his band, then his stage crew, and even User:Michelle1 herself (at least that’s who I think he means by Michelle), and then the fans themselves.
I doesn’t make sense to me to just single out Keith in this, he has even known his manager for longer (30 years).
I think if there really needs to be a section on his Juno 2006 award, it should mention during the acceptance speech he said "being here tonight is about the effort and time devoted to many people behind the scenes, not just the singer" and went on to thank pretty much everyone who helped him get to where he was. Silver007 ( talk) 02:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC) reply

You are right, its not importent, i have been thinking of removing it for a while now but hadn't botherd cause i've been working on adding sources on the article. -- Be Black Hole Sun ( talk) 16:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Now, or back then

"which starts" is now, but should be "it started". Look at all the others as well.-- 212.241.64.236 ( talk) 21:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC) reply

GAs

Can somebody help me turn the 18 til I Die article to GA status as i did with the Run to You article and Waking Up the Neighbours. Be Black Hole Sun ( talk · contribs)

Good Article Review — Failed

The article has seen some good improvements since the last GAN, but there are still quite a few outstanding problems:

  • The "Social Activist" section is plagued by one-line paragraphs and statements that are not chronologically ordered.
  • Tons of grammar and WP:MoS breaches. A thorough copyedit is needed.
  • There are a couple irrelevant sections. For example, "as a photographer" can be removed entirely. A brief and concise statement about his photography and social activism should be amalgamated into one section, titled something along the lines of "Work outside of music".
  • The way the article is written it feels like everything is being relayed very bluntly. Information is presented without any flow or transition whatsoever.

Overall, there's still too much wrong with the article for it to be near GA-quality. I suggest a very thorough and in-depth rewrite, including outside help from copyeditors. NSR77 T C 21:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC) reply


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