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If you thought this article on the metro station should be moved to "Brussels-West railway station", why did create the railway station article only two days before suggesting the merge? Why did you not just move it? The metro station article exists in other languages. Are they wrong to do that? I am not being argumentative - I just do not know the situation, so we can do it properly.
Sw2nd (
talk)
18:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
North was maybe a bad example since premetro only, but I could easily have mentioned
South station which is the same case.
The reason for the metro station article predating the railway one is historical. The original railway station closed in 1984, and reopened for main railway service in 2009, when the articles already existed. At this moment, it seems interesting to follwo the example of other railway stations with metro, and make the railway station article the main one.
LHOON (
talk)
21:42, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Why don't you be bold and just do it! The correct way to do this is to move the metro station article after updating it, and thereby preserve the edit history. As the creator of the railway station article, you could have it speedily deleted (using
Template:Db-author), to make way for the move. Are there any more stations like this?
Sw2nd (
talk)
22:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Hold on! There are others, like this, at "station" - not "metro station" or "railway station". I discovered Merode and Delta are similar.
Sw2nd (
talk)
18:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Other examples include Simonis and Bockstael in fact. For these cases, the article name can be quite straightforward as "station"; the article name "Gare de l'Ouest/Weststation station" is somewhat awkward however and should indeed sound better as "Brussels West", cf. what happens at South or Central stations.
LHOON (
talk)
23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
I find all the bilingual names a little clumsy, but that is what the names are on the
official metro map]. Some of those name on the map are the opposite way around from the aricles in wikipedia, but I don't want to mess with such an extensive system. I only came to the Metro system to upgrade the existing station articles with s-rail succession templates, an infobox, improved navbox and images where they were lacking. Compiling the structure for the underlying templates showed me an inconsistency in the station name suffixes, which, once I understood why, I have generally just accepted. You are right about all those previous Brussels railway station articles with geographic names having a staightforward english translation for the title. Don't let me hold you up and further - we could be using our time more productively. Thank you.
Sw2nd (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
02:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC).reply
Not the bilingual aspect is awkward (otherwise the whole of Brussels would be :-), but just the repeating of the word "station" in the name article. I'll adapt this and further articles over the next time if I find some free time to do it.
LHOON (
talk)
13:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)reply
Good. I've fixed the name in the Brussels metro stations template so that links in the infoboxes go directly to this article.
Sw2nd (
talk)
17:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)reply
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If you thought this article on the metro station should be moved to "Brussels-West railway station", why did create the railway station article only two days before suggesting the merge? Why did you not just move it? The metro station article exists in other languages. Are they wrong to do that? I am not being argumentative - I just do not know the situation, so we can do it properly.
Sw2nd (
talk)
18:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
North was maybe a bad example since premetro only, but I could easily have mentioned
South station which is the same case.
The reason for the metro station article predating the railway one is historical. The original railway station closed in 1984, and reopened for main railway service in 2009, when the articles already existed. At this moment, it seems interesting to follwo the example of other railway stations with metro, and make the railway station article the main one.
LHOON (
talk)
21:42, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Why don't you be bold and just do it! The correct way to do this is to move the metro station article after updating it, and thereby preserve the edit history. As the creator of the railway station article, you could have it speedily deleted (using
Template:Db-author), to make way for the move. Are there any more stations like this?
Sw2nd (
talk)
22:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Hold on! There are others, like this, at "station" - not "metro station" or "railway station". I discovered Merode and Delta are similar.
Sw2nd (
talk)
18:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Other examples include Simonis and Bockstael in fact. For these cases, the article name can be quite straightforward as "station"; the article name "Gare de l'Ouest/Weststation station" is somewhat awkward however and should indeed sound better as "Brussels West", cf. what happens at South or Central stations.
LHOON (
talk)
23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
I find all the bilingual names a little clumsy, but that is what the names are on the
official metro map]. Some of those name on the map are the opposite way around from the aricles in wikipedia, but I don't want to mess with such an extensive system. I only came to the Metro system to upgrade the existing station articles with s-rail succession templates, an infobox, improved navbox and images where they were lacking. Compiling the structure for the underlying templates showed me an inconsistency in the station name suffixes, which, once I understood why, I have generally just accepted. You are right about all those previous Brussels railway station articles with geographic names having a staightforward english translation for the title. Don't let me hold you up and further - we could be using our time more productively. Thank you.
Sw2nd (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
02:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC).reply
Not the bilingual aspect is awkward (otherwise the whole of Brussels would be :-), but just the repeating of the word "station" in the name article. I'll adapt this and further articles over the next time if I find some free time to do it.
LHOON (
talk)
13:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)reply
Good. I've fixed the name in the Brussels metro stations template so that links in the infoboxes go directly to this article.
Sw2nd (
talk)
17:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)reply