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I thought that the model of the Mona Lisa was under dispute? Some people even think the model was Leonardo da Vinci himself.
The boy has light brown hair, not blonde. And who cares whether something is "brunette" or not? There's light brown, dark brown, medium brown, dark blonde, etc. Actualy, Dark Blonde Dosen't Qualify as Brunnete, that would qualify as Blonde
The teenage boy doesn't really have brown hair, it looks quite blondish. Can't we get a better representation? - 24.149.193.49 ( talk) 12:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
A friend of mine, who is an anthropologist, considers lighter shades of brown hair to be a blond variant. Also, many encyclopedias and dictionarys refer to "blond" as being anything light brown to pale yellow, while "brunette" is always defined as "dark brown or black". And interestingly, when counting how many blonds are in a certain region, usually light-brown(and sometimes medium brown) is counted as well. Just an interesting note.
Okay. Well, I've seen a light or pale yellowish brown considered blond by the dictionary. John Freida's Brilliant Brunette shampoo has a bottle for lighter shades of brown hair and a bottle for darker shades of brown hair and Pantene has some kind of brunette shampoo bottle that says something like for ligher shades of brown hair ( I don't remember the exact words). There's another Brunette shampoo, Suave I think that says something like for brown shades of hair.
There are LOTS of shampoos and hair products deemed specifically for brown hair. Pantene, Frieda, Suave is only the tip of the iceberg.
Some dictionaries say dark or brown hair/ or brown or black hair, which seems to me like brunette would apply to any or (at least) almost any shade of brown hair. Not all dictionaries say specifically dark brown hair/ or dark brown or black hair. I would think medium brown hair should be able to be considered brunette because some dictionaries define brunette as having dark or relatively dark hair and medium brown is a relatively dark shade of brown hair, which is relatively dark hair. There's seems to be quite a bit of controversy as to whether a light or lighter shade of brown hair is really brunette. I think there's quite a bit of evidence like what I said above to suggest that lighter shades of brown hair may really be brunette or that one can't totally dismiss the possibility that lighter shades of brown hair may be (technically) brunette because there's some evidence that seems to point towards lighter shades of brown hair being brunette.
Well, I'm actually kinda ambivalent as to whether a light or lighter shade of brown hair is really brunette. I also tend to think of the word "dark" or "relatively dark" when I hear the word brunette. According to what I've read the word brunette comes from "brun" meaning brown. I've never actually seen a dictionary that considers light-brown hair to be blond, but I think there probably is a dictionary that considers light-brown hair blond, although I do have a unabridged dictionary that has the word "light brown" in part of the etymology of blond. You are right that blond is sometimes defined as "light in color" and light brown hair could possibly fit into that definition. I've only seen a light or pale yellowish brown defined as blond in the dictionary. The only way light brown hair could be considered dark or relatively dark hair is that it's darker than what is probably usually thought of as blond hair; yellowish or whitish colored hair. I don't think anyone or at least where I live would actually call a lighter shade of brown hair blond. Allwords. com's adjective definition of brunette says- Said Of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown. If brunette only applies to a dark shade of brown hair than why don't all dictionaries have the word "dark" in front of the word brown? How am I supposed to interpret one of Webster's definition of brunette: A person having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion. I seem to fit into that definition because I have brown hair; a lighter shade of brown hair. It doesn't specifically say "dark brown" it just say's brown. The broadest definition one can find of a word is usually the most accurate/complete definition of a word. Having dark or brown hair; or having brown or black hair seems broader than the definition of having dark brown or black hair. Dictionaries usually reflect common usage of a word listing the thing or things a word is most associated with, even though there are other things that can be meant by a word, but aren't associated with as much. I want to know the complete definition of a word; all the possible meanings of a word, even the one's that aren't associated with the word as much, which I think is the most accurate definition of a word. I don't want to think that brunette just applies to dark-brown hair, when it applies to black hair as well. Though, brunette is more associated with dark-brown hair than black hair. Dark-brown is actually the color that brunette seems to be most associated with and I think the only color that is totally agreed upon as being brunette. I like to know the meanings of words well.
Okay. I see your point of view. I don't really see light brown hair as being dark or relatively dark hair. I've noticed that some people consider light brown hair brunette and other's don't consider it brunette. Some people use the word brunette to simply refer to having brown hair. Do you know what the terms light brunette and dark brunette mean? I've seen them used on the internet.I've seen a few dictionaries define brunette as: A woman with brown hair. The word brunette comes from "brun" meaning brown and I think brunette can sometimes be translated into the word dark. I'm not sure where the word dark comes from in the etymology of brunette.
Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair.
I would say that brunette is anyone who has any shade of brown hair. Black haired peole I would Blacettes or Blacnds or Blacheads or something.
I think that brunette applies to any shade of brown, whether it be light or dark. When brun translates to dark, it means dark as in darker than blonde. which is considered fair hair or light hair. So the correct answer to me is brunette means all shades of brown not just dark brown.
Is it just me, or does that picture have black hair? [[User:Meelar| Meelar (talk)]] 23:03, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
That picture of the young boy is not photoshopped at all, I'd say. He looks to me like a young actor/saxophonist that I know
Does brunette apply to a light or lighter shade of brown hair? I think brunette may apply to any shade of brown(esp. dark-brown)hair, as well as black hair. I'm not sure. Brunette seems to be particularly associated with dark-brown or black hair, especially dark-brown hair. User:4.124.78.176
I'm definitely sure I'm not a blond, but I have a blond complexion though.
Allwords.com defines a brunette as: A woman or girl with brown or dark hair and as an adjective: Said of Hair Colour: brown,usually dark brown. So, maybe brunette defined as having dark-brown or black hair, esp. dark-brown hair is just common usage,but it can also apply to simply brown or light brown hair, but isn't very commonly used. So, what do you think? 4.124.92.184
Well, according to Allwords.com adjective definition above brunette describes brown hair, usually dark brown hair.
brunet or brunette: n. a person having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion
brunette: adj. having dark or brown hair
brunette: n. a girl or woman with dark or brown hair
brunette or brunet n. 1. A woman or girl with brown or dark hair.
adj.Said Of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown.
brunet or brunette: adj. Having brown or black hair and dark eyes.
brunette: n. 1. A girl or woman with brown or black hair.
brunette: adj. 1. Having brown or black hair(used for women).
brunet or brunette: adj. having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion
brunet or brunette: adj. of dark or relatively dark pigmentation;esp: having brown or black hair and eyes
The page used to contain an image of Sharon Corr, from her official web page. It is almost certainly not fair-use in this context, so we need a new free image to illustrate Brunette. Any takers? David Remahl 16:30, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Does anybody else here besides me think that brunette may apply to lighter shades of brown hair, but isn't as associated with brunette as dark-brown and black hair, especially dark-brown? Any opinions on this matter? Anybody here?
No, I don't think that "brunette" applies to lighter shades of brown hair. I would never call a woman "brunette" in that case. As to myself, I am a German beyond the age of 40, and my hair has darkened from childhood/adolescence blond/dark blond colour to some shade of light (or middle?) brown, while at the same time (or even before the darkening) getting grey hair more and more (well, I know, grey hair does not exist, so let's say white hair mixed with darker shades of hair). Being blue-eyed and having a light skin (and also specific characteristics of my face (shape, proportions?) more common in Northern Europe) I would never consider being called "brunette" to be appropriate for people like myself.
Thanks alot!!!! This question has been up for a pretty long time and finally somebody has replied to it. I'm still confused. I consider my hair to be a light or lighter shade of brown, I don't think it's even a medium brown and my boyfriend call me a brunette all the time. There are dictionary definitions of brunette that say having brown or black hair/or dark or brown hair. The adjective definition of brunette on allwords.com says- Said of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown. I seem to fit into that definition and the other ones I mentioned above. If I'm a brunette I would only technically be a brunette, I wouldn't fit into the common usage of brunette, I might be what some call a light brunette. I've seen shampoo for brunettes that has a bottle for darker shades of brown hair and a bottle for lighter shades of brown hair. I don't know what to think. I'm pretty sure that medium brown hair could be considered brunette, because it's a relatively dark shade of brown hair and some defintions of brunette say having dark or relatively dark hair.
If you are lighter than a "medium brunette," then you are probably a "dirty blonde."
Considering that "brunette" only describes half of all people with brown hair, shouldn't the article "brunette" redirect to "brown hair" instead of the other way around? - Branddobbe 09:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Whoever keeps changing the photo needs to stop,that eurasian women picture doesn't show brown hair
she does have dark brown hair...she is a true brunette. ( 69.117.27.68 03:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
People want a example for brown hair not a half brunette in your case some asian person.
Actually there is no such thing as being a full 'hair color' race and hair color are two different thing and racial purity does not exist in this world. By now at least many people had mixture even if it was from generations ago. I am not a brunette, but I had to speak up because some people do not know these things. I mean people also call non-European anime characters ane even Eurasians animes brunets/brunettes and any other hair colors so what the different in calling a real life Eurasian and non-European the same. 209.247.21.117 ( talk) 15:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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I don't understand why we can't put a picture of an dark brown Eurasian female. The brown haired female was longer than the other picture. We need a new picture. A brunette cleary says any female with dark brown hair...so what is exactly wrong with the Eurasian female...she has dark brown hair...she's the perfect example of an brunette... ( 207.156.196.242 15:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
the title says brown hair it didn't say brunette
But it mentioned brunette in the article. ( Oahc 22:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
But who wants a image of a bleached haired person
I think there should be a list of famous people or celebrities who are or have temporarily been or played as brunettes, but it should probably only include women who have really dark hair (dark-brown or black hair), since it isn't agreed upon as to whether women with light or lighter shades of brown hair really are brunettes.
Yeah add women like Sarah Silverman,Catherine Zeta Jones,Neve Campbell,Annabella Sciorra,Jennifer Love Hewitt,Fran Drescher,Lacey Chabert,Marisa Tomei,etc as examples of famous Brunettes.
i always reffered to my hair color as brunnete, hmm so the whole time i've been calling me hair; "little dark-haired girl" haha Soppy324 06:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Australian Jezza 08:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)== Re: Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair. ==
"Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair
I would say that brunette is anyone who has any shade of brown hair. Black haired peole I would Blacettes or Blacnds or Blacheads or something.
Wouldn't "Noirette" be more appropriate? Considereing "blanc" means "white"? Or are you not using French?"
Why can't people with black hair be called brunette instead of just black haired or dark haired. If you can remember, the term Blackhead is a PIMPLE or BACTERIA in the FACE or SKIN! How insulting! I wouldn't want to be called that! I think the world would be better off , if we used the term "Brunette" for Black haired people AND dark brown/light brown haired people! Or:
Black hair=Brunette
Dark brown/Brown/Light Brown haired=Brownhead! or Darky! At least they're not so insulting or offensive like what you just said! —The preceding
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19:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC).STFU! brown hair, from deepest, almost black brown hair, to light golden brown, is Brunnette, black hair is not considered Brunnette, its just considered black hair, grow a brain and stop acting like an acehole
How is being called back haired offensive? it is obiously different from blackhead, and why is this under brown hair???
So, what is everyone's opinion on whether light or lighter shades of brown hair are really brunette? Anyone consider light or lighter shades of brown hair blond, because blond is sometimes defined as having light hair and light brown hair could possibly be considered light hair. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.124.73.164 ( talk) 14:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC). .
I first noticed this term in a celeberity magazine. It refers to hair colour that's darker than blond but lighter than what's normally considered brunette. I wonder if it'll catch on?
I for one hope it does. It sounds nicer, to me anyway, than dirty blonde or bleachy brown . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.37.139 ( talk) 00:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Anybody with brown hair, natural or otherwise, is a brunette or brunet to use the correct male term. Contrary to popular belief, the french word brun or brune without an adjective behind it, doesn`t mean dark. It simply means brown and there are as many shades of brown as any other colour. One does not have to have dark eyes or a dark skin tone to qualify as a true brunette. Given that line of reasoning, people with blond hair shouldn`t be considered true blonds unless they have yellow eyes and swallow skin tones. That said, I believe light brown hair could go either way. A person could add a few hi-lites and be a blonde or a few lo-lites and be brunette. It`s up to the individual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.167.248 ( talk) 15:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
This article is very poor in comparision with the blonde and red hair articles.
I agree. All the other articles have more scientific studies and more examples of symbolism and culture. Can someone please do the same for this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.77.152 ( talk) 13:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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The article starts out like this: "Brown hair is the second most common hair color, with black being the most common."
Ok, that's just because Asians have black hair, and Asia has like the biggest population out of all countries in the world. I think stating it the way it's stated is inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.140.76 ( talk) 12:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Not all Asians have black hair. Some have very dark brown hair, but I don't know any studies that have counted them all so there's really no way to tell (you know, unless someone else finds a study like that). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Only 10 percent of the Japanese got the natural brown hair. -- 95.134.73.56 ( talk) 11:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I have the deepest brown hair colour and pale skin with blue eyes, and the deffinitions i saw.. stated that brunette means brown hair dark eyes with a dark complexion. Just asking if that's true. Is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.23.236 ( talk) 20:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not an expert, but I am a brunette - or at least I think I am. I have pale skin too (very, very pale) and gray eyes, but those two things don't have anything to do with brown hair as far as I know. I'd say you're a brunette. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
If your hair`s brown, you`re a brunette. I don`t know where people got the idea that the root word brun means dark, but that`s simply not true. See the Proper Definition section.
I am removing the Gloria Steinem quote because it is random and doesn't belong in an article on hair color. Also, Brunette has always generally referred to medium brown to very dark brown (not real black) hair, not ONLY medium brown. That is completely FALSE.
That quote is also VERY distracting to the article. -- CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 23:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Please not change photos. Photos best represent the various hair colors and this has already been discussed. I don't think that photos of celebrities with hair dyed an unnatural color should be representative of that hair color. Aishwarya Rai does not have auburn hair. We already have good photos in place in the gallery. The man with auburn hair may have a slightly lighter auburn hair color, but it is a good choice.-- CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 00:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Why does the article state that brown hair "strands are thicker than those of fair hair but not as much as those of red hair?" Is there any kind of reputable source for this?
I have extremely fine, dark brown hair and know I'm not the only one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.108.118 ( talk) 09:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Clearly both Elena Risteska and Jennifer Love Hewett have died their hair. As do most movie stars and a lot of women in general. True brown or dark brown hair typically lack red, depth and that unnatural shine that comes from chemical enhancement. These pictures should be replaced by better ones. Lorielle ( talk) 18:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Please see the discussion on varieties of brown hair below. CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 05:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to shorten the list of varieties of brown hair. I don't think it needs to be so detailed as there are actually not that many varieties of natural brown hair, shades just vary a little with age and in different lighting. The natural golden brown in some brunette children (who, unlike true blonds, tend to have dark eyelashes and darker or brighter eyes) tends to turn into normal brown in adulthood. Golden blonde adults are extremely rare, if they exist at all. All adults with golden brown hair I have seen have been dyed. Also wondering if black is not simply the darkest variation of brown hair? There seems to be a rather seamless continuum from one to the other. Lorielle ( talk) 21:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
We dont really need a list of what looks like the loreal back cataloge in fact they have one called dark reddish brown. this kind of list is not on the blonde one its rediculous. In fact looks racist to me. it needs deleteing, the photos are fine. Delighted eyes ( talk) 13:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree that there are issues with that list, mainly because it's citet sources are not really scientific - one is even a guide to colour your hair from "ladyinfo". Much, much better sources are needed on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I propose that Chestnut hair be merged into Brown hair. I think that the content in the Chestnut hair article can easily be explained in the context of Brown hair, and the Brown hair article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Chestnut hair will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 70.15.11.44 ( talk) 07:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't get the distinction between brown hair and black hair based on this article. It all looks black to me. This article only adds to the confusion. Btw, the definition of word can change too. It's called semantic derivation or simply "blending" of words. Bye. -- 95.134.73.56 ( talk) 11:48, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
The photo of Elena Risteska is inappropriate. Firstly, it is an unprofessional photo (left upper corner cut off). Secondly, the woman's hair was probably dyed with streaks.
Morover, the difference between medium brown and chestnut brown should be clearly visible.
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after the direct and non-shattered reflection in direct light doesn't reflect more than five per cent of the light, you would call it "light-brown" and not "dark-blonde". and the cosmetics industry (or whatever) could not have defined it differently. There might be a reason for it. it might be because of the fur hygiene of europides. exactly at the actual limit to "black", the europides would see dirt and parasites the best and see if the hair was healthy. exactly in that ratio the night sight sets relative to daylight. this might be kind of an objective definition and not a subjective impression. the limit to actual black in a 'scientific sense'. our cats get red fur because of infections and bacterias when they are sick. ever noticed that rough black areas cannot reflect less than 12.5 per cent of the light? and also when flat, there is always a rough component. it might be atom geometry. In all other Ethnicities, there are the same mechanism, except that the hair is only exactly twice as light. one nuance is equivalent to a multiplication or division of the brightness with the factor 1.33 . Blacks, Mediterraneans and Asians have it exactly half as light normally distributed around another 'healthy' average. maybe an exaggerated fact, but it might be not just media manipulation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C6:E742:CA00:407E:9B8E:784:12CE ( talk) 06:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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I thought that the model of the Mona Lisa was under dispute? Some people even think the model was Leonardo da Vinci himself.
The boy has light brown hair, not blonde. And who cares whether something is "brunette" or not? There's light brown, dark brown, medium brown, dark blonde, etc. Actualy, Dark Blonde Dosen't Qualify as Brunnete, that would qualify as Blonde
The teenage boy doesn't really have brown hair, it looks quite blondish. Can't we get a better representation? - 24.149.193.49 ( talk) 12:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
A friend of mine, who is an anthropologist, considers lighter shades of brown hair to be a blond variant. Also, many encyclopedias and dictionarys refer to "blond" as being anything light brown to pale yellow, while "brunette" is always defined as "dark brown or black". And interestingly, when counting how many blonds are in a certain region, usually light-brown(and sometimes medium brown) is counted as well. Just an interesting note.
Okay. Well, I've seen a light or pale yellowish brown considered blond by the dictionary. John Freida's Brilliant Brunette shampoo has a bottle for lighter shades of brown hair and a bottle for darker shades of brown hair and Pantene has some kind of brunette shampoo bottle that says something like for ligher shades of brown hair ( I don't remember the exact words). There's another Brunette shampoo, Suave I think that says something like for brown shades of hair.
There are LOTS of shampoos and hair products deemed specifically for brown hair. Pantene, Frieda, Suave is only the tip of the iceberg.
Some dictionaries say dark or brown hair/ or brown or black hair, which seems to me like brunette would apply to any or (at least) almost any shade of brown hair. Not all dictionaries say specifically dark brown hair/ or dark brown or black hair. I would think medium brown hair should be able to be considered brunette because some dictionaries define brunette as having dark or relatively dark hair and medium brown is a relatively dark shade of brown hair, which is relatively dark hair. There's seems to be quite a bit of controversy as to whether a light or lighter shade of brown hair is really brunette. I think there's quite a bit of evidence like what I said above to suggest that lighter shades of brown hair may really be brunette or that one can't totally dismiss the possibility that lighter shades of brown hair may be (technically) brunette because there's some evidence that seems to point towards lighter shades of brown hair being brunette.
Well, I'm actually kinda ambivalent as to whether a light or lighter shade of brown hair is really brunette. I also tend to think of the word "dark" or "relatively dark" when I hear the word brunette. According to what I've read the word brunette comes from "brun" meaning brown. I've never actually seen a dictionary that considers light-brown hair to be blond, but I think there probably is a dictionary that considers light-brown hair blond, although I do have a unabridged dictionary that has the word "light brown" in part of the etymology of blond. You are right that blond is sometimes defined as "light in color" and light brown hair could possibly fit into that definition. I've only seen a light or pale yellowish brown defined as blond in the dictionary. The only way light brown hair could be considered dark or relatively dark hair is that it's darker than what is probably usually thought of as blond hair; yellowish or whitish colored hair. I don't think anyone or at least where I live would actually call a lighter shade of brown hair blond. Allwords. com's adjective definition of brunette says- Said Of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown. If brunette only applies to a dark shade of brown hair than why don't all dictionaries have the word "dark" in front of the word brown? How am I supposed to interpret one of Webster's definition of brunette: A person having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion. I seem to fit into that definition because I have brown hair; a lighter shade of brown hair. It doesn't specifically say "dark brown" it just say's brown. The broadest definition one can find of a word is usually the most accurate/complete definition of a word. Having dark or brown hair; or having brown or black hair seems broader than the definition of having dark brown or black hair. Dictionaries usually reflect common usage of a word listing the thing or things a word is most associated with, even though there are other things that can be meant by a word, but aren't associated with as much. I want to know the complete definition of a word; all the possible meanings of a word, even the one's that aren't associated with the word as much, which I think is the most accurate definition of a word. I don't want to think that brunette just applies to dark-brown hair, when it applies to black hair as well. Though, brunette is more associated with dark-brown hair than black hair. Dark-brown is actually the color that brunette seems to be most associated with and I think the only color that is totally agreed upon as being brunette. I like to know the meanings of words well.
Okay. I see your point of view. I don't really see light brown hair as being dark or relatively dark hair. I've noticed that some people consider light brown hair brunette and other's don't consider it brunette. Some people use the word brunette to simply refer to having brown hair. Do you know what the terms light brunette and dark brunette mean? I've seen them used on the internet.I've seen a few dictionaries define brunette as: A woman with brown hair. The word brunette comes from "brun" meaning brown and I think brunette can sometimes be translated into the word dark. I'm not sure where the word dark comes from in the etymology of brunette.
Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair.
I would say that brunette is anyone who has any shade of brown hair. Black haired peole I would Blacettes or Blacnds or Blacheads or something.
I think that brunette applies to any shade of brown, whether it be light or dark. When brun translates to dark, it means dark as in darker than blonde. which is considered fair hair or light hair. So the correct answer to me is brunette means all shades of brown not just dark brown.
Is it just me, or does that picture have black hair? [[User:Meelar| Meelar (talk)]] 23:03, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
That picture of the young boy is not photoshopped at all, I'd say. He looks to me like a young actor/saxophonist that I know
Does brunette apply to a light or lighter shade of brown hair? I think brunette may apply to any shade of brown(esp. dark-brown)hair, as well as black hair. I'm not sure. Brunette seems to be particularly associated with dark-brown or black hair, especially dark-brown hair. User:4.124.78.176
I'm definitely sure I'm not a blond, but I have a blond complexion though.
Allwords.com defines a brunette as: A woman or girl with brown or dark hair and as an adjective: Said of Hair Colour: brown,usually dark brown. So, maybe brunette defined as having dark-brown or black hair, esp. dark-brown hair is just common usage,but it can also apply to simply brown or light brown hair, but isn't very commonly used. So, what do you think? 4.124.92.184
Well, according to Allwords.com adjective definition above brunette describes brown hair, usually dark brown hair.
brunet or brunette: n. a person having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion
brunette: adj. having dark or brown hair
brunette: n. a girl or woman with dark or brown hair
brunette or brunet n. 1. A woman or girl with brown or dark hair.
adj.Said Of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown.
brunet or brunette: adj. Having brown or black hair and dark eyes.
brunette: n. 1. A girl or woman with brown or black hair.
brunette: adj. 1. Having brown or black hair(used for women).
brunet or brunette: adj. having brown or black hair and usu. a relatively dark complexion
brunet or brunette: adj. of dark or relatively dark pigmentation;esp: having brown or black hair and eyes
The page used to contain an image of Sharon Corr, from her official web page. It is almost certainly not fair-use in this context, so we need a new free image to illustrate Brunette. Any takers? David Remahl 16:30, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Does anybody else here besides me think that brunette may apply to lighter shades of brown hair, but isn't as associated with brunette as dark-brown and black hair, especially dark-brown? Any opinions on this matter? Anybody here?
No, I don't think that "brunette" applies to lighter shades of brown hair. I would never call a woman "brunette" in that case. As to myself, I am a German beyond the age of 40, and my hair has darkened from childhood/adolescence blond/dark blond colour to some shade of light (or middle?) brown, while at the same time (or even before the darkening) getting grey hair more and more (well, I know, grey hair does not exist, so let's say white hair mixed with darker shades of hair). Being blue-eyed and having a light skin (and also specific characteristics of my face (shape, proportions?) more common in Northern Europe) I would never consider being called "brunette" to be appropriate for people like myself.
Thanks alot!!!! This question has been up for a pretty long time and finally somebody has replied to it. I'm still confused. I consider my hair to be a light or lighter shade of brown, I don't think it's even a medium brown and my boyfriend call me a brunette all the time. There are dictionary definitions of brunette that say having brown or black hair/or dark or brown hair. The adjective definition of brunette on allwords.com says- Said of Hair Colour: brown, usually dark brown. I seem to fit into that definition and the other ones I mentioned above. If I'm a brunette I would only technically be a brunette, I wouldn't fit into the common usage of brunette, I might be what some call a light brunette. I've seen shampoo for brunettes that has a bottle for darker shades of brown hair and a bottle for lighter shades of brown hair. I don't know what to think. I'm pretty sure that medium brown hair could be considered brunette, because it's a relatively dark shade of brown hair and some defintions of brunette say having dark or relatively dark hair.
If you are lighter than a "medium brunette," then you are probably a "dirty blonde."
Considering that "brunette" only describes half of all people with brown hair, shouldn't the article "brunette" redirect to "brown hair" instead of the other way around? - Branddobbe 09:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Whoever keeps changing the photo needs to stop,that eurasian women picture doesn't show brown hair
she does have dark brown hair...she is a true brunette. ( 69.117.27.68 03:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
People want a example for brown hair not a half brunette in your case some asian person.
Actually there is no such thing as being a full 'hair color' race and hair color are two different thing and racial purity does not exist in this world. By now at least many people had mixture even if it was from generations ago. I am not a brunette, but I had to speak up because some people do not know these things. I mean people also call non-European anime characters ane even Eurasians animes brunets/brunettes and any other hair colors so what the different in calling a real life Eurasian and non-European the same. 209.247.21.117 ( talk) 15:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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I don't understand why we can't put a picture of an dark brown Eurasian female. The brown haired female was longer than the other picture. We need a new picture. A brunette cleary says any female with dark brown hair...so what is exactly wrong with the Eurasian female...she has dark brown hair...she's the perfect example of an brunette... ( 207.156.196.242 15:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
the title says brown hair it didn't say brunette
But it mentioned brunette in the article. ( Oahc 22:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
But who wants a image of a bleached haired person
I think there should be a list of famous people or celebrities who are or have temporarily been or played as brunettes, but it should probably only include women who have really dark hair (dark-brown or black hair), since it isn't agreed upon as to whether women with light or lighter shades of brown hair really are brunettes.
Yeah add women like Sarah Silverman,Catherine Zeta Jones,Neve Campbell,Annabella Sciorra,Jennifer Love Hewitt,Fran Drescher,Lacey Chabert,Marisa Tomei,etc as examples of famous Brunettes.
i always reffered to my hair color as brunnete, hmm so the whole time i've been calling me hair; "little dark-haired girl" haha Soppy324 06:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Australian Jezza 08:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)== Re: Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair. ==
"Ya that is just you, she has dark brown hair
I would say that brunette is anyone who has any shade of brown hair. Black haired peole I would Blacettes or Blacnds or Blacheads or something.
Wouldn't "Noirette" be more appropriate? Considereing "blanc" means "white"? Or are you not using French?"
Why can't people with black hair be called brunette instead of just black haired or dark haired. If you can remember, the term Blackhead is a PIMPLE or BACTERIA in the FACE or SKIN! How insulting! I wouldn't want to be called that! I think the world would be better off , if we used the term "Brunette" for Black haired people AND dark brown/light brown haired people! Or:
Black hair=Brunette
Dark brown/Brown/Light Brown haired=Brownhead! or Darky! At least they're not so insulting or offensive like what you just said! —The preceding
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19:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC).STFU! brown hair, from deepest, almost black brown hair, to light golden brown, is Brunnette, black hair is not considered Brunnette, its just considered black hair, grow a brain and stop acting like an acehole
How is being called back haired offensive? it is obiously different from blackhead, and why is this under brown hair???
So, what is everyone's opinion on whether light or lighter shades of brown hair are really brunette? Anyone consider light or lighter shades of brown hair blond, because blond is sometimes defined as having light hair and light brown hair could possibly be considered light hair. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.124.73.164 ( talk) 14:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC). .
I first noticed this term in a celeberity magazine. It refers to hair colour that's darker than blond but lighter than what's normally considered brunette. I wonder if it'll catch on?
I for one hope it does. It sounds nicer, to me anyway, than dirty blonde or bleachy brown . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.37.139 ( talk) 00:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Anybody with brown hair, natural or otherwise, is a brunette or brunet to use the correct male term. Contrary to popular belief, the french word brun or brune without an adjective behind it, doesn`t mean dark. It simply means brown and there are as many shades of brown as any other colour. One does not have to have dark eyes or a dark skin tone to qualify as a true brunette. Given that line of reasoning, people with blond hair shouldn`t be considered true blonds unless they have yellow eyes and swallow skin tones. That said, I believe light brown hair could go either way. A person could add a few hi-lites and be a blonde or a few lo-lites and be brunette. It`s up to the individual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.167.248 ( talk) 15:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
This article is very poor in comparision with the blonde and red hair articles.
I agree. All the other articles have more scientific studies and more examples of symbolism and culture. Can someone please do the same for this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.77.152 ( talk) 13:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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The article starts out like this: "Brown hair is the second most common hair color, with black being the most common."
Ok, that's just because Asians have black hair, and Asia has like the biggest population out of all countries in the world. I think stating it the way it's stated is inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.140.76 ( talk) 12:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Not all Asians have black hair. Some have very dark brown hair, but I don't know any studies that have counted them all so there's really no way to tell (you know, unless someone else finds a study like that). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Only 10 percent of the Japanese got the natural brown hair. -- 95.134.73.56 ( talk) 11:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I have the deepest brown hair colour and pale skin with blue eyes, and the deffinitions i saw.. stated that brunette means brown hair dark eyes with a dark complexion. Just asking if that's true. Is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.23.236 ( talk) 20:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not an expert, but I am a brunette - or at least I think I am. I have pale skin too (very, very pale) and gray eyes, but those two things don't have anything to do with brown hair as far as I know. I'd say you're a brunette. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
If your hair`s brown, you`re a brunette. I don`t know where people got the idea that the root word brun means dark, but that`s simply not true. See the Proper Definition section.
I am removing the Gloria Steinem quote because it is random and doesn't belong in an article on hair color. Also, Brunette has always generally referred to medium brown to very dark brown (not real black) hair, not ONLY medium brown. That is completely FALSE.
That quote is also VERY distracting to the article. -- CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 23:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Please not change photos. Photos best represent the various hair colors and this has already been discussed. I don't think that photos of celebrities with hair dyed an unnatural color should be representative of that hair color. Aishwarya Rai does not have auburn hair. We already have good photos in place in the gallery. The man with auburn hair may have a slightly lighter auburn hair color, but it is a good choice.-- CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 00:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Why does the article state that brown hair "strands are thicker than those of fair hair but not as much as those of red hair?" Is there any kind of reputable source for this?
I have extremely fine, dark brown hair and know I'm not the only one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.108.118 ( talk) 09:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Clearly both Elena Risteska and Jennifer Love Hewett have died their hair. As do most movie stars and a lot of women in general. True brown or dark brown hair typically lack red, depth and that unnatural shine that comes from chemical enhancement. These pictures should be replaced by better ones. Lorielle ( talk) 18:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Please see the discussion on varieties of brown hair below. CreativeSoul7981 ( talk) 05:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to shorten the list of varieties of brown hair. I don't think it needs to be so detailed as there are actually not that many varieties of natural brown hair, shades just vary a little with age and in different lighting. The natural golden brown in some brunette children (who, unlike true blonds, tend to have dark eyelashes and darker or brighter eyes) tends to turn into normal brown in adulthood. Golden blonde adults are extremely rare, if they exist at all. All adults with golden brown hair I have seen have been dyed. Also wondering if black is not simply the darkest variation of brown hair? There seems to be a rather seamless continuum from one to the other. Lorielle ( talk) 21:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
We dont really need a list of what looks like the loreal back cataloge in fact they have one called dark reddish brown. this kind of list is not on the blonde one its rediculous. In fact looks racist to me. it needs deleteing, the photos are fine. Delighted eyes ( talk) 13:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree that there are issues with that list, mainly because it's citet sources are not really scientific - one is even a guide to colour your hair from "ladyinfo". Much, much better sources are needed on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.121.135 ( talk) 20:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I propose that Chestnut hair be merged into Brown hair. I think that the content in the Chestnut hair article can easily be explained in the context of Brown hair, and the Brown hair article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Chestnut hair will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 70.15.11.44 ( talk) 07:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't get the distinction between brown hair and black hair based on this article. It all looks black to me. This article only adds to the confusion. Btw, the definition of word can change too. It's called semantic derivation or simply "blending" of words. Bye. -- 95.134.73.56 ( talk) 11:48, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
The photo of Elena Risteska is inappropriate. Firstly, it is an unprofessional photo (left upper corner cut off). Secondly, the woman's hair was probably dyed with streaks.
Morover, the difference between medium brown and chestnut brown should be clearly visible.
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after the direct and non-shattered reflection in direct light doesn't reflect more than five per cent of the light, you would call it "light-brown" and not "dark-blonde". and the cosmetics industry (or whatever) could not have defined it differently. There might be a reason for it. it might be because of the fur hygiene of europides. exactly at the actual limit to "black", the europides would see dirt and parasites the best and see if the hair was healthy. exactly in that ratio the night sight sets relative to daylight. this might be kind of an objective definition and not a subjective impression. the limit to actual black in a 'scientific sense'. our cats get red fur because of infections and bacterias when they are sick. ever noticed that rough black areas cannot reflect less than 12.5 per cent of the light? and also when flat, there is always a rough component. it might be atom geometry. In all other Ethnicities, there are the same mechanism, except that the hair is only exactly twice as light. one nuance is equivalent to a multiplication or division of the brightness with the factor 1.33 . Blacks, Mediterraneans and Asians have it exactly half as light normally distributed around another 'healthy' average. maybe an exaggerated fact, but it might be not just media manipulation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C6:E742:CA00:407E:9B8E:784:12CE ( talk) 06:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)