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Maybe mention the guy somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.212.127.195 ( talk) 01:03, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Is it true so tell me some evidence 116.90.116.58 ( talk) 10:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Jesus' brothers. Joseph was not Jesus' father, but he is mentioned as such, meaning his "brothers" didn't have to be his "flesh" brothers. 2605:BA00:3208:924:6CF5:9C85:F216:7D88 ( talk) 01:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Relative to Jesus' brothers, which some say were his "blood" brothers; in the New Testament, Joseph is called "Jesus' father" even though he wasn't which could mean they weren't his "blood brothers.
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According to John Painter this would be the position of Mark, John and Paul. I believe that for these types of statements attribution is necessary. I also do not understand why the user Achar Sva is very attached to the fact that this statement must be in the article, which has no relationship with the topic of "brothers of Jesus" Rafaelosornio. ( talk) 15:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
The page states more than once that there is "no Biblical evidence" for Joseph being an older man and the Adelphoi being step siblings and/or cousins, but the most common scriptural evidence given by Catholics seems to be twofold. Firstly, Joseph died before the crucifixion, and secondly Jesus has to give Mary away to be taken care of by John, an Apostle who was not a blood relative. These two pieces are the most common given by Catholics, so in the interest of fairness the page should reflect this instead of the biased statement of "there is no Biblical evidence" Ptinkle99 ( talk) 03:37, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
One editor insists that "Some Lutheran Churches have accepted" beliefs about non-brothers of Jesus. The only reference is a web page by ONE pastor from a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church. This does not justify the statement that LCMS has a broad doctrine about this and does not have anything to do with other Lutheran Synods. This ia dubious statement and has no citation to support it. I have appropriately tagged the article. Pkgx ( talk) 23:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Maybe mention the guy somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.212.127.195 ( talk) 01:03, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Is it true so tell me some evidence 116.90.116.58 ( talk) 10:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Jesus' brothers. Joseph was not Jesus' father, but he is mentioned as such, meaning his "brothers" didn't have to be his "flesh" brothers. 2605:BA00:3208:924:6CF5:9C85:F216:7D88 ( talk) 01:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Relative to Jesus' brothers, which some say were his "blood" brothers; in the New Testament, Joseph is called "Jesus' father" even though he wasn't which could mean they weren't his "blood brothers.
2605:BA00:3208:924:6CF5:9C85:F216:7D88 (
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01:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
According to John Painter this would be the position of Mark, John and Paul. I believe that for these types of statements attribution is necessary. I also do not understand why the user Achar Sva is very attached to the fact that this statement must be in the article, which has no relationship with the topic of "brothers of Jesus" Rafaelosornio. ( talk) 15:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
The page states more than once that there is "no Biblical evidence" for Joseph being an older man and the Adelphoi being step siblings and/or cousins, but the most common scriptural evidence given by Catholics seems to be twofold. Firstly, Joseph died before the crucifixion, and secondly Jesus has to give Mary away to be taken care of by John, an Apostle who was not a blood relative. These two pieces are the most common given by Catholics, so in the interest of fairness the page should reflect this instead of the biased statement of "there is no Biblical evidence" Ptinkle99 ( talk) 03:37, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
One editor insists that "Some Lutheran Churches have accepted" beliefs about non-brothers of Jesus. The only reference is a web page by ONE pastor from a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church. This does not justify the statement that LCMS has a broad doctrine about this and does not have anything to do with other Lutheran Synods. This ia dubious statement and has no citation to support it. I have appropriately tagged the article. Pkgx ( talk) 23:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)