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In her book "New Age Versions" she has produced SUBSTANTIAL proof. It runs to 680 pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.192.66 ( talk) 23:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Actually, Mrs. Riplinger has produced no proof, substantial or otherwise. She has grossly misquoted Westcott and Hort, and various historians and sources she herself cites. It comes down to there being no proof, because every source she cites does not say of Westcott and Hort what she purports in her writings. People who flatly say that she has produced proof advertise that they have never researched her material to see if her claims are honestly backed on the sources she claims. I can demonstrate with plenty of side-by-side examples of how she has changed the words of her sources to make them say something they never said. This is called misquotation. DollyArtist2013 ( talk) 19:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
For a large part of this article there is no documentation. "How do you know all that" may be asked even by one quite sympathetic with the content of the article.( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
"He worked at Harrow for nearly twenty years under Dr C.J. Vaughan and Dr Montagu Butler, but he was never good at maintaining discipline among large numbers." What does that mean? Large numbers of what? Do you mean that he lectured and the students were disorderly during his lectures?
As to places like "Harrow," better identification is in order as all the readers are not acquainted with places in England.
"he expanded his Norrisian essay" -- what is a Norrisian essay? Who are the Norrisians? ( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
"He now occupied a position for which he was supremely fitted, at a point in the reform of university studies when a theologian of liberal views, but universally respected for his massive learning and his devout and single-minded character, had a unique opportunity to contribute." Why be oblique? If he was liberal, then say so, but define the term for him. Liberal means a lot of different things in different historical contexts. Modern conservatives seem to love his commentaries. Liberal in theology implies denial of the fundamentals of the faith, like verbal inspiration of the Bible and the deity of Christ. You need good documentation is you wish to assert that such was Westcott.( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
Phrases like "he threw himself into the new work with extraordinary energy..." tend to suggest that he is obsequiously admired by the writer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.171.88.114 ( talk) 12:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
In short, I added a POV tag due to the controversy section. Basileias ( talk) 06:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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An IP wants to add "Socialist" to the category scheme. (I reverted.) The edit note justifying this is Westcott's own commentary. But do we have a secondary source describing him as a Socialist? No. (Nor is he described as a socialist in the article text.) We need textual use of the term, supported by non- WP:SPS sources. – S. Rich ( talk) 22:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
The link labeled "Wescott and the Ghostly Guild" goes to Kjvonly.org. Clicking the link takes browser to a site called Financeflick.com. ??? There's a button I could click that says "Subscribe Now" hmmm... It's so tempting, but I'll resist :)
Does anyone else agree? This looks like a fishing scam, or just a fake site at best. There's no information related to the article.
No need to worry about a phishing scam at that web link. Mr. May's page expired some time ago and someone had taken the link to use for their own means. It is now a domain up for sale. DollyArtist2013 ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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In her book "New Age Versions" she has produced SUBSTANTIAL proof. It runs to 680 pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.192.66 ( talk) 23:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Actually, Mrs. Riplinger has produced no proof, substantial or otherwise. She has grossly misquoted Westcott and Hort, and various historians and sources she herself cites. It comes down to there being no proof, because every source she cites does not say of Westcott and Hort what she purports in her writings. People who flatly say that she has produced proof advertise that they have never researched her material to see if her claims are honestly backed on the sources she claims. I can demonstrate with plenty of side-by-side examples of how she has changed the words of her sources to make them say something they never said. This is called misquotation. DollyArtist2013 ( talk) 19:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
For a large part of this article there is no documentation. "How do you know all that" may be asked even by one quite sympathetic with the content of the article.( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
"He worked at Harrow for nearly twenty years under Dr C.J. Vaughan and Dr Montagu Butler, but he was never good at maintaining discipline among large numbers." What does that mean? Large numbers of what? Do you mean that he lectured and the students were disorderly during his lectures?
As to places like "Harrow," better identification is in order as all the readers are not acquainted with places in England.
"he expanded his Norrisian essay" -- what is a Norrisian essay? Who are the Norrisians? ( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
"He now occupied a position for which he was supremely fitted, at a point in the reform of university studies when a theologian of liberal views, but universally respected for his massive learning and his devout and single-minded character, had a unique opportunity to contribute." Why be oblique? If he was liberal, then say so, but define the term for him. Liberal means a lot of different things in different historical contexts. Modern conservatives seem to love his commentaries. Liberal in theology implies denial of the fundamentals of the faith, like verbal inspiration of the Bible and the deity of Christ. You need good documentation is you wish to assert that such was Westcott.( EnochBethany ( talk) 03:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC))
Phrases like "he threw himself into the new work with extraordinary energy..." tend to suggest that he is obsequiously admired by the writer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.171.88.114 ( talk) 12:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
In short, I added a POV tag due to the controversy section. Basileias ( talk) 06:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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An IP wants to add "Socialist" to the category scheme. (I reverted.) The edit note justifying this is Westcott's own commentary. But do we have a secondary source describing him as a Socialist? No. (Nor is he described as a socialist in the article text.) We need textual use of the term, supported by non- WP:SPS sources. – S. Rich ( talk) 22:25, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
The link labeled "Wescott and the Ghostly Guild" goes to Kjvonly.org. Clicking the link takes browser to a site called Financeflick.com. ??? There's a button I could click that says "Subscribe Now" hmmm... It's so tempting, but I'll resist :)
Does anyone else agree? This looks like a fishing scam, or just a fake site at best. There's no information related to the article.
No need to worry about a phishing scam at that web link. Mr. May's page expired some time ago and someone had taken the link to use for their own means. It is now a domain up for sale. DollyArtist2013 ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)