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I've just added a tone cleanup message to the article. I see some work had gone into cleaning up the swathes of unecessary emotive storytelling, but there's still some way to go. I'll try to chip in later should I get the chance, and hopefully this tag'll bring some reinforcements in. drewmunn talk 06:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Edited the section on Fred Miller to make it clear that the baby wasn't the killer. Removed identifying information about the killer from the characters section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.240.196.185 ( talk • contribs)
The original article lists the actor who plays the killer, probably the ultimate spoiler. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a warning? 124.168.85.13 ( talk) 10:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Naming the killer in this paragraphs is gratuitous and unnecessary. It absolutely nothing to enhance the article and definitely spoils the series for those like myself came to this page for further information on the cast and had absolutely no desire to unexpectedly and without warning find the series spoiled after only having watched two episodes. FURTHERMORE, the killer is revealed in the episode synopsis lower down the page, exactly where a reader would expect it to be found. Per WP:SPOILER "When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an encyclopedic purpose is being served". In this case I fail to see what encyclopedic purpose is being served. Clivel 0 ( talk) 17:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
@ 76.173.54.125: This issue has already been resolved on the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (see closing comments here). WP:SPOILER is the prevailing guideline, which maintains that spoiler warnings should not be provided, and that information cannot be removed simply because it may spoil perceived personal enjoyment. There is more information in the DRN discussion that may help illuminate your understanding of why this type of information should not be removed. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia first and foremost, and not an entertainment guide. Caveat lector. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 08:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Whomever keeps editing to include the identity of the murderer is being a dickhead troll. I came here to simply look at the cast after watching one episode and learned completely without warning the identity of the murderer, which ruined the series for me. I've taken the references to the murderer out and suggest that others leave it be. The writer/director clearly wanted it to be a surprise, so why sneak it in here and ruin it for future viewers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.54.216 ( talk) 03:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Just FYI I was the latest to have the series spoiled for me because I went to look up a cast member. Naming the resolution of a detective series other than in the plot summary is simply rude and unnecessary. Nobody is asking that spoiler content be removed. We're asking that it be placed where a reasonable person would expect it. Given the comment in the article, I have not tried to remove it, but don't really understand why the WP:SPOILER policy kicks in when we're asking simply that the spoiler be moved out of the casting section. Ejaxon ( talk) 23:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The beach used for location filming seems to be the same one used in the opening credits of the Reginald Perrin series. The underpants discarded by Rossiter are the same ones worn by David Tennant, 37yrs later, now known as the Jurassic underpants. 220.244.88.174 ( talk) 04:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please add a sentence at the beginning of the characters section as a "spoiler alert as the murder is given away in this section if you have not watched the series and don't want it spoiled don't read the characters section" or please remove the bit on the on Joe Miller "In the final episode, Joe is revealed to have killed Danny." and put a new heading at the bottom revealing the murderer away from this section. i was reading it to find more about the characters i didn't want to know the killer and there was no warning. it is a great series but has now been spoilt as i know the outcome so when i watch it i know more than i should. another friend had a similar incident as well with your current page. thank you merle 124.171.101.221 ( talk) 07:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the link for the actor Adam Wilson leads a person who lived in the 19th century. Someone should correct that or remove the link. 81.216.229.12 ( talk) 19:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
My DVR did not record anything at 7:00pm on 9/04. Looking at http://www.bbcamerica.com/broadchurch/guide/season-1/ it shows nothing for 9/04 and two episodes for 9/11. Only one episode was shown on that day, episode 6.
Question: Did BBCA actually show episode 5 on 9/04? It looks like they might have sent out bad info so that DVRs did not record that one. (I see that episode 1.05 is available via Video On Demand, DirecTV channel 1264.) Joeinwap ( talk) 06:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
This article needs serious work. It currently lacks a "plot" section summarizing the series content. Breaking down what happens in each episode is fine, but that should not be the only summary - it's far too long, detailed, and not focussed on the summary but on each episode.
Also, episode 8 currently starts with "Someone confesses to strangling Danny...". Highly inappropriate tone. Simply report the events without hiding or obscuring anything. We're an encyclopedia, folks! CapnZapp ( talk) 20:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Currently discussed in the lede, and then again under "american adaptation". Since every fact of that section can be found on the gracepoint page, I'll delete the section to avoid needless repetition. CapnZapp ( talk) 21:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm starting this conversation on behalf of some non-regular editors, one of whom contacted me on my talk page the other day, and another who added some comments in the old conversation above. Though I was a vocal objector to removing the content about Danny Latimer's killer from the appropriate character's description, I wonder if it is worth revisiting briefly. Though I wouldn't argue for the removal of the content from the plot section, I can understand the strength of argument that perhaps the spoiler doesn't belong in the character description. On the one hand, (as I've argued above), Darth Vader is called out as Luke Skywalker's father in the Vader article, and that is clearly a spoiler. On the other hand, I also know that MOS:TV says "Try to avoid using the section as a repository for further "in-universe" information that really belongs in the plot summary; instead, focus on real world information on the characters and actors." With that in mind, and with some extra time having elapsed since the heated dispute, I wonder if removing the spoiler from the character description might be a reasonable compromise. Just a thought. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I've inserted a Cast List before the character summaries. This should solve the "spoiler" issue without censoring the article. Alivicwil ( talk) 23:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
I would argue that Gran and SOCO are not major characters. But that's just me. I would not remove them from the cast list of someone felt they belonged. As for the other points you raise, Alivicwil, not all plot points need to be included. The revelation of the murderer was major news in Britain and Ireland, and even is getting coverage in the United States. It's hardly a secret. Lesser plot points, such as Jack's past and his character's fate, were not as well-reported, and I would argue probably shouldn't be included. At some point, it becomes less a character description and more a way of sneaking episode information into the article without doing a proper write-up (with cites) of the episodes. - Tim1965 ( talk) 02:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
At some point once Series 2 begins, the Series 1 episode list, cast list, and other pertinent information should be moved into its own article. I suggest that, at the same time, this new article contain information on Series 2, at least in terms of cast list, episode listings, and so on. Spoiler information needs to be carefully monitored for Series 2, to avoid giving away important plot points viewers in countries which see the show weeks (perhaps a month or more) later. (That is, unless BBC is airing it worldwide in close proximity, as they do with Doctor Who and a few others shows.) Comments? Ideas? Good or bad move? - Tim1965 ( talk) 02:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Very recently User:Tim1965 reverted an edit, that had added a TV channel to the French adaption. Alright, he mentioned "Outre-Mer Fox Crime not mentioned by the citation" in his revert. And yes, the reverted edit had been done by an "IP", not by a user that he could have addressed. Tim1965 still could have added a question her on Talk:Broadchurch, asking for a citation. But it's obviously easier to do a revert and leave the effort with the author of the reverted edit. Right, an IP author can't keep a watchlist and quite probably also does not have a long-lasting intention as a Wikipedia author. I still do regard it as rude to simply remove the 2nd TV channel of the French adaption. I assume Tim1965 is able to quote Wikipedia guidelines that back his action. So by the letter he was right, but I want to encourage others not to follow his style. It's destructive and discouraging. -- johayek ( talk) 00:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I could have just reverted the anonymous IP without an explanation. Instead, I used the edit summary to explain why I did what I did. johayek, you may find that rude. I do not. Perhaps I could have used a {{fact}} tag. But those things sit there for years, quite frankly, and few people take the trouble to rectify the problem. I, on the other hand, was one of those who helped turn this article from (frankly) an unsourced one making wild, challengeable claims into a decent article which is fully cited. (Although now that's eroding a bit...) I take ownership (sic) of the article, and try to monitor it, so that it won't fall back into the gutter. That's not something most contributors will do. Lastly, the anonymous IP contributor suspiciously inserted text into a sentence which had long been cited and hadn't been edited. It reeked of a contributor who was not reading the Wiki guidelines and was engaged in pure WP:ORIGINAL. That's abusive of the rest of us, who do read the guidelines, who do source, who do copyedit, and who do monitor articles over time. I double-checked the cite, discovered that indeed the anonymous contributor had abused Wikipedia (and all those people who worked very hard on this article to turn it into a good one), and I undid the edit -- with, again I emphasize, an explanation in the edit summary. Ultimately, johayek, it's you who have declined to assume good faith and called me rude, you who have assumed I'm rule-bound and uncaring. How rude is that???! - Tim1965 ( talk) 03:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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I've just added a tone cleanup message to the article. I see some work had gone into cleaning up the swathes of unecessary emotive storytelling, but there's still some way to go. I'll try to chip in later should I get the chance, and hopefully this tag'll bring some reinforcements in. drewmunn talk 06:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Edited the section on Fred Miller to make it clear that the baby wasn't the killer. Removed identifying information about the killer from the characters section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.240.196.185 ( talk • contribs)
The original article lists the actor who plays the killer, probably the ultimate spoiler. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a warning? 124.168.85.13 ( talk) 10:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Naming the killer in this paragraphs is gratuitous and unnecessary. It absolutely nothing to enhance the article and definitely spoils the series for those like myself came to this page for further information on the cast and had absolutely no desire to unexpectedly and without warning find the series spoiled after only having watched two episodes. FURTHERMORE, the killer is revealed in the episode synopsis lower down the page, exactly where a reader would expect it to be found. Per WP:SPOILER "When including spoilers, editors should make sure that an encyclopedic purpose is being served". In this case I fail to see what encyclopedic purpose is being served. Clivel 0 ( talk) 17:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
@ 76.173.54.125: This issue has already been resolved on the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (see closing comments here). WP:SPOILER is the prevailing guideline, which maintains that spoiler warnings should not be provided, and that information cannot be removed simply because it may spoil perceived personal enjoyment. There is more information in the DRN discussion that may help illuminate your understanding of why this type of information should not be removed. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia first and foremost, and not an entertainment guide. Caveat lector. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 08:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Whomever keeps editing to include the identity of the murderer is being a dickhead troll. I came here to simply look at the cast after watching one episode and learned completely without warning the identity of the murderer, which ruined the series for me. I've taken the references to the murderer out and suggest that others leave it be. The writer/director clearly wanted it to be a surprise, so why sneak it in here and ruin it for future viewers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.54.216 ( talk) 03:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Just FYI I was the latest to have the series spoiled for me because I went to look up a cast member. Naming the resolution of a detective series other than in the plot summary is simply rude and unnecessary. Nobody is asking that spoiler content be removed. We're asking that it be placed where a reasonable person would expect it. Given the comment in the article, I have not tried to remove it, but don't really understand why the WP:SPOILER policy kicks in when we're asking simply that the spoiler be moved out of the casting section. Ejaxon ( talk) 23:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The beach used for location filming seems to be the same one used in the opening credits of the Reginald Perrin series. The underpants discarded by Rossiter are the same ones worn by David Tennant, 37yrs later, now known as the Jurassic underpants. 220.244.88.174 ( talk) 04:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please add a sentence at the beginning of the characters section as a "spoiler alert as the murder is given away in this section if you have not watched the series and don't want it spoiled don't read the characters section" or please remove the bit on the on Joe Miller "In the final episode, Joe is revealed to have killed Danny." and put a new heading at the bottom revealing the murderer away from this section. i was reading it to find more about the characters i didn't want to know the killer and there was no warning. it is a great series but has now been spoilt as i know the outcome so when i watch it i know more than i should. another friend had a similar incident as well with your current page. thank you merle 124.171.101.221 ( talk) 07:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that the link for the actor Adam Wilson leads a person who lived in the 19th century. Someone should correct that or remove the link. 81.216.229.12 ( talk) 19:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
My DVR did not record anything at 7:00pm on 9/04. Looking at http://www.bbcamerica.com/broadchurch/guide/season-1/ it shows nothing for 9/04 and two episodes for 9/11. Only one episode was shown on that day, episode 6.
Question: Did BBCA actually show episode 5 on 9/04? It looks like they might have sent out bad info so that DVRs did not record that one. (I see that episode 1.05 is available via Video On Demand, DirecTV channel 1264.) Joeinwap ( talk) 06:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
This article needs serious work. It currently lacks a "plot" section summarizing the series content. Breaking down what happens in each episode is fine, but that should not be the only summary - it's far too long, detailed, and not focussed on the summary but on each episode.
Also, episode 8 currently starts with "Someone confesses to strangling Danny...". Highly inappropriate tone. Simply report the events without hiding or obscuring anything. We're an encyclopedia, folks! CapnZapp ( talk) 20:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Currently discussed in the lede, and then again under "american adaptation". Since every fact of that section can be found on the gracepoint page, I'll delete the section to avoid needless repetition. CapnZapp ( talk) 21:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm starting this conversation on behalf of some non-regular editors, one of whom contacted me on my talk page the other day, and another who added some comments in the old conversation above. Though I was a vocal objector to removing the content about Danny Latimer's killer from the appropriate character's description, I wonder if it is worth revisiting briefly. Though I wouldn't argue for the removal of the content from the plot section, I can understand the strength of argument that perhaps the spoiler doesn't belong in the character description. On the one hand, (as I've argued above), Darth Vader is called out as Luke Skywalker's father in the Vader article, and that is clearly a spoiler. On the other hand, I also know that MOS:TV says "Try to avoid using the section as a repository for further "in-universe" information that really belongs in the plot summary; instead, focus on real world information on the characters and actors." With that in mind, and with some extra time having elapsed since the heated dispute, I wonder if removing the spoiler from the character description might be a reasonable compromise. Just a thought. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I've inserted a Cast List before the character summaries. This should solve the "spoiler" issue without censoring the article. Alivicwil ( talk) 23:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
I would argue that Gran and SOCO are not major characters. But that's just me. I would not remove them from the cast list of someone felt they belonged. As for the other points you raise, Alivicwil, not all plot points need to be included. The revelation of the murderer was major news in Britain and Ireland, and even is getting coverage in the United States. It's hardly a secret. Lesser plot points, such as Jack's past and his character's fate, were not as well-reported, and I would argue probably shouldn't be included. At some point, it becomes less a character description and more a way of sneaking episode information into the article without doing a proper write-up (with cites) of the episodes. - Tim1965 ( talk) 02:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
At some point once Series 2 begins, the Series 1 episode list, cast list, and other pertinent information should be moved into its own article. I suggest that, at the same time, this new article contain information on Series 2, at least in terms of cast list, episode listings, and so on. Spoiler information needs to be carefully monitored for Series 2, to avoid giving away important plot points viewers in countries which see the show weeks (perhaps a month or more) later. (That is, unless BBC is airing it worldwide in close proximity, as they do with Doctor Who and a few others shows.) Comments? Ideas? Good or bad move? - Tim1965 ( talk) 02:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Very recently User:Tim1965 reverted an edit, that had added a TV channel to the French adaption. Alright, he mentioned "Outre-Mer Fox Crime not mentioned by the citation" in his revert. And yes, the reverted edit had been done by an "IP", not by a user that he could have addressed. Tim1965 still could have added a question her on Talk:Broadchurch, asking for a citation. But it's obviously easier to do a revert and leave the effort with the author of the reverted edit. Right, an IP author can't keep a watchlist and quite probably also does not have a long-lasting intention as a Wikipedia author. I still do regard it as rude to simply remove the 2nd TV channel of the French adaption. I assume Tim1965 is able to quote Wikipedia guidelines that back his action. So by the letter he was right, but I want to encourage others not to follow his style. It's destructive and discouraging. -- johayek ( talk) 00:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I could have just reverted the anonymous IP without an explanation. Instead, I used the edit summary to explain why I did what I did. johayek, you may find that rude. I do not. Perhaps I could have used a {{fact}} tag. But those things sit there for years, quite frankly, and few people take the trouble to rectify the problem. I, on the other hand, was one of those who helped turn this article from (frankly) an unsourced one making wild, challengeable claims into a decent article which is fully cited. (Although now that's eroding a bit...) I take ownership (sic) of the article, and try to monitor it, so that it won't fall back into the gutter. That's not something most contributors will do. Lastly, the anonymous IP contributor suspiciously inserted text into a sentence which had long been cited and hadn't been edited. It reeked of a contributor who was not reading the Wiki guidelines and was engaged in pure WP:ORIGINAL. That's abusive of the rest of us, who do read the guidelines, who do source, who do copyedit, and who do monitor articles over time. I double-checked the cite, discovered that indeed the anonymous contributor had abused Wikipedia (and all those people who worked very hard on this article to turn it into a good one), and I undid the edit -- with, again I emphasize, an explanation in the edit summary. Ultimately, johayek, it's you who have declined to assume good faith and called me rude, you who have assumed I'm rule-bound and uncaring. How rude is that???! - Tim1965 ( talk) 03:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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