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This section should be split from the article as this species referred to Psittacula bensoni (synonym Lophopsittacus bensoni /Thirioux's Grey Parrot) see Cheke/Hume: Lost Land of the Dodo (2008) and Hume: Reappraisel of the Parrots (2007) for reference -- Melly42 ( talk) 12:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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It's only fitting that since I just posted a GAN about a recently extinct animal from a nearby island that I perform this review. I will try to finish my review tonight. If not, look for it tomorrow. – Maky « talk » 04:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC) P.S. - Since I know you would be interested, I plan to write the Megaladapis article next.
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Otherwise, everything looked good on my first pass. I'll try to review the publicly available sources tomorrow. – Maky « talk » 06:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Good job. I left some comments above. – Maky « talk » 23:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The genetic study says, and I quote: "The extinct M. mascarinus groups within Coracopsis rather than with Psittacula to which it has sometimes been referred (phylogenetic analysis without the constraints still shows this pattern). Specifically, this taxon groups with the lesser vasa parrots, C. nigra. Within this clade the nominate C. n. nigra appears to be a recent speciation, with Coracopsis nigra barklyi, M. mascarinus and Coracopsis nigra sibilans all representing earlier divergences." Later it says this grouping is weakly supported, so I would be very cautious with any specific wording in the article, which is not in the paper. What do you think? FunkMonk ( talk) 17:05, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I understand the sources have to be followed, but perhaps it's useful to point out that the caption in the 1601 Dutch woodcut does not read "Is a bird which we called the Indian Crow, more than twice as big as the parroquets, of two or three colours" but "A bird that we called the Indian Raven, being as large as a parrot, of double colour". To a Dutch reader of the time it would be obvious that the "double colour" would not refer to two hues in the same individual, but to two plumages, indicating either sexual dimorphism or a nuptial plumage.-- MWAK ( talk) 07:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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MOS:WAW to italics on each instance of "referred to them as ..." ? No need to get back to me, marking Satisfactory, unwatching, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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It's only fitting that since I just posted a GAN about a recently extinct animal from a nearby island that I perform this review. I will try to finish my review tonight. If not, look for it tomorrow. – Maky « talk » 04:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC) P.S. - Since I know you would be interested, I plan to write the Megaladapis article next.
Comments:
Otherwise, everything looked good on my first pass. I'll try to review the publicly available sources tomorrow. – Maky « talk » 06:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Good job. I left some comments above. – Maky « talk » 23:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The genetic study says, and I quote: "The extinct M. mascarinus groups within Coracopsis rather than with Psittacula to which it has sometimes been referred (phylogenetic analysis without the constraints still shows this pattern). Specifically, this taxon groups with the lesser vasa parrots, C. nigra. Within this clade the nominate C. n. nigra appears to be a recent speciation, with Coracopsis nigra barklyi, M. mascarinus and Coracopsis nigra sibilans all representing earlier divergences." Later it says this grouping is weakly supported, so I would be very cautious with any specific wording in the article, which is not in the paper. What do you think? FunkMonk ( talk) 17:05, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I understand the sources have to be followed, but perhaps it's useful to point out that the caption in the 1601 Dutch woodcut does not read "Is a bird which we called the Indian Crow, more than twice as big as the parroquets, of two or three colours" but "A bird that we called the Indian Raven, being as large as a parrot, of double colour". To a Dutch reader of the time it would be obvious that the "double colour" would not refer to two hues in the same individual, but to two plumages, indicating either sexual dimorphism or a nuptial plumage.-- MWAK ( talk) 07:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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MOS:WAW to italics on each instance of "referred to them as ..." ? No need to get back to me, marking Satisfactory, unwatching, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
I have placed a notice ({{ Note short footnote style 3 in use}} at the start of this talk page following other notices. This template provides information to editors perhaps unfamiliar with this article’s style of when to use or not use short footnotes versus full citations, and aids citation editors helping maintain consistent use of this style to know what method citations require adjustment.
Per a conversation with FunkMonk, as of the date of this post I have upgraded his inline plain text short footnotes to this style, and hovering the mouse over short references will display the full citaiton. (Behavior on mobile devices currently is a jump to the full citation). J JMesserly ( talk) 21:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC)