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Reviewer: No Great Shaker ( talk · contribs) 19:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, @ Pkbwcgs: I am happy to review this article and hope to begin shortly. I have submitted Bury F.C. for review and I agree that I should do two reviews myself to help with the backlog. Thanks. No Great Shaker ( talk) 19:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The article was created in 2004 and is now 21kb after just over 500 edits. Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria#Immediate_failures is inapplicable here and a full review can proceed. No Great Shaker ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
I have to say that, because of my interest in history, I'm a steam enthusiast in railway terms and take little notice of disiesels or electrics. Even so, I do understand everything that this article is saying. I make that point because many people, especially if non-British, will not readily understand it. My interpretation of the GA/FA criteria is that a good article is just that and doesn't have to be brilliant, but a featured article is a brilliant one. This isn't brilliant by any means but it is unquestionably good. I could make some minor adjustments here and there in terms of wording and grammar but they would only amount to personal preference so, given that there are no actual mistakes, I'm leaving well alone.
If there is an intention to nominate the article for feature status eventually, I'd say there is a lot of work to be done and the priority must be to express things in layman's terms. The article is currently just over 21kb and I think it would no harm at all if that size was doubled in order to provide more background and explanation. At present, it's a good article for those who know the subject and are familiar with the British railway system but it doesn't really help the uninitiated.
That said, it is a good article and it ticks all the boxes in the GA criteria. It's well-written, it doesn't say "awesome", the intro is fit for purpose, it's well structured, I see no problems or issues arising from the sources or illustrations and the latter are very good indeed. As a result, therefore, I think the article definitely qualifies for GA status and I'm passing it. Well done and all the best. No Great Shaker ( talk) 16:47, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
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Reviewer: No Great Shaker ( talk · contribs) 19:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, @ Pkbwcgs: I am happy to review this article and hope to begin shortly. I have submitted Bury F.C. for review and I agree that I should do two reviews myself to help with the backlog. Thanks. No Great Shaker ( talk) 19:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The article was created in 2004 and is now 21kb after just over 500 edits. Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria#Immediate_failures is inapplicable here and a full review can proceed. No Great Shaker ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
I have to say that, because of my interest in history, I'm a steam enthusiast in railway terms and take little notice of disiesels or electrics. Even so, I do understand everything that this article is saying. I make that point because many people, especially if non-British, will not readily understand it. My interpretation of the GA/FA criteria is that a good article is just that and doesn't have to be brilliant, but a featured article is a brilliant one. This isn't brilliant by any means but it is unquestionably good. I could make some minor adjustments here and there in terms of wording and grammar but they would only amount to personal preference so, given that there are no actual mistakes, I'm leaving well alone.
If there is an intention to nominate the article for feature status eventually, I'd say there is a lot of work to be done and the priority must be to express things in layman's terms. The article is currently just over 21kb and I think it would no harm at all if that size was doubled in order to provide more background and explanation. At present, it's a good article for those who know the subject and are familiar with the British railway system but it doesn't really help the uninitiated.
That said, it is a good article and it ticks all the boxes in the GA criteria. It's well-written, it doesn't say "awesome", the intro is fit for purpose, it's well structured, I see no problems or issues arising from the sources or illustrations and the latter are very good indeed. As a result, therefore, I think the article definitely qualifies for GA status and I'm passing it. Well done and all the best. No Great Shaker ( talk) 16:47, 8 March 2019 (UTC)