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Should this article be merged with British_Rail_APT-E and Advanced_Passenger_Train to provide a single point of reference to the APT programme? —Achmelvic <date=6 December 2005>
This article is currently named in accordance the Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Railways naming conventions for British rolling stock allocated a TOPS number. A proposal to change this convention and/or its scope is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Naming convention, where your comments would be welcome.
Here it is in all its glory:
I commend WestRail642fan for having the patience and dedication to produce this computer artwork, but I cannot fathom how it possibly illustrates anything, particularly as we have some photographs that achieve this purpose without looking weird, out of place and unprofessional. I think it is entirely appropriate for Wikimedia Commons, however, and suggest that it be left there. Tony May ( talk) 14:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
The train consisted of a special formation, with one articulated six-car passenger-carrying set behind two power cars. At the front end there was a driving trailer and another articulated trailer brake for the test staff.It might be that two power cars were used at the start of the week, reducing to one later on. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
"Which photograph is an equivalent?", not "where can I find a random photograph that incudes an APT?" and much less a request for a slippery-slope logical fallacy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
If i may ask, why are people picking on this diagram and not all the other 'MS Paint' diagrams ive posted? Don't be afraid to be creative ( talk) 23:19, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
You know what, just remove all the diagrams i've uploaded here, i honestly dont care anymore, you guys dont seem to acknowledge all the information i posted so why bother Don't be afraid to be creative ( talk) 16:38, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
The article claims that APT "influenced" the Class 91 and its "technology" reappeared in the Class 390, some authors mention elswhere that even the HST "borrowed heavily" from APT but it remains obscure what exactly went into the other trains. Class 91 does not tilt and was designed as a multi purpose loco. WCML Pendolinos use a different electromechanical tilt instead of the APT hydraulics which are more akin to the SuperVoyagers. Thyristors were state of the art at the time and used by other manufacturers alike. Don't get me wrong, BR Research did a lot of science, but the tales that APT is the mother of all modern trains or that the Italians snatched the technology only to sell it to the stupid Brits are a bit dubious. 92.192.218.210 ( talk) 13:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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Should this article be merged with British_Rail_APT-E and Advanced_Passenger_Train to provide a single point of reference to the APT programme? —Achmelvic <date=6 December 2005>
This article is currently named in accordance the Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Railways naming conventions for British rolling stock allocated a TOPS number. A proposal to change this convention and/or its scope is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Naming convention, where your comments would be welcome.
Here it is in all its glory:
I commend WestRail642fan for having the patience and dedication to produce this computer artwork, but I cannot fathom how it possibly illustrates anything, particularly as we have some photographs that achieve this purpose without looking weird, out of place and unprofessional. I think it is entirely appropriate for Wikimedia Commons, however, and suggest that it be left there. Tony May ( talk) 14:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
The train consisted of a special formation, with one articulated six-car passenger-carrying set behind two power cars. At the front end there was a driving trailer and another articulated trailer brake for the test staff.It might be that two power cars were used at the start of the week, reducing to one later on. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
"Which photograph is an equivalent?", not "where can I find a random photograph that incudes an APT?" and much less a request for a slippery-slope logical fallacy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
If i may ask, why are people picking on this diagram and not all the other 'MS Paint' diagrams ive posted? Don't be afraid to be creative ( talk) 23:19, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
You know what, just remove all the diagrams i've uploaded here, i honestly dont care anymore, you guys dont seem to acknowledge all the information i posted so why bother Don't be afraid to be creative ( talk) 16:38, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
The article claims that APT "influenced" the Class 91 and its "technology" reappeared in the Class 390, some authors mention elswhere that even the HST "borrowed heavily" from APT but it remains obscure what exactly went into the other trains. Class 91 does not tilt and was designed as a multi purpose loco. WCML Pendolinos use a different electromechanical tilt instead of the APT hydraulics which are more akin to the SuperVoyagers. Thyristors were state of the art at the time and used by other manufacturers alike. Don't get me wrong, BR Research did a lot of science, but the tales that APT is the mother of all modern trains or that the Italians snatched the technology only to sell it to the stupid Brits are a bit dubious. 92.192.218.210 ( talk) 13:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)