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According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_2001_Ethnic_Codes Cypriot has an 2001 Census Ethnic Code of 07, followed by 08 Greek including Greek Cypriot and then 09 Turkish including Turkish Cypriot. Since the codes 01 to 06 are taken up by British, Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh and Cornish respectively, and the codes for Black and Asian Britons seem to be numbered in order of population numbers for each sub-group (Caribbean, African , Mixed Black... etc.) would this imply that Cypriots are the largest white ethnic group in the UK according to the 2001 census?
Jewish is numbered at 15 and according to the 2001 Census and they number 270,499. All Mediterranean's (including Italian, Portuguese and Spanish) are below Turkish, followed by former Yugoslavs and then USSR, then Other White, and Irish Traveller.
The Portuguese are claiming 500-700,000 people of Portuguese decedent in the UK (which clearly can't be right), Italians 133,000 and Spanish 100,000. The population of Cornwall is 500,000 so 430,000 seems a reasonable estimate for Cypriots. -- Pankration2008 ( talk) 13:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose that after "...the Cypriot British community is the largest overseas Cypriot community on the planet" the following be added "...and the largest White ethnic group of UK citizens after the indigenous population." -- Pankration2008 ( talk) 13:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding recent edits to Cypriot British, I will attempt to explain why the following edits are not acceptable.
If you have a dispute, please discuss it on the talk page or seek dispute resolution. Edit warring is not acceptable. seicer | talk | contribs 02:37, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I have now overhauled the entire article using a range of verifiable sources. Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions for further changes. Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently has two images, as shown on the right. Does anyone have any better suggestions? The problem with the first one is that if you click through to the photo, it gives no indication that the people in it are actually Turkish Cypriots. Cordless Larry ( talk) 11:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the 300,000 population estimate from the infobox because according to Pankration2008, it only includes Cypriots who are represented by the National Federation of Cypriots, which represents very few Turkish Cypriots. This appears to be backed up by this reference. We therefore can't use it as a population estimate source. Cordless Larry ( talk) 13:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
File:Stelios launches easyOffice.jpg
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London [1] | |
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English, Greek, Turkish | |
Religion | |
Cypriot Orthodox Church, Islam | |
Related ethnic groups | |
Greeks, Turks, Cypriot |
References
I've just realised that "Cypriot British community" only returns this page on Google, whereas "British Cypriot community" returns 378 results. Shall we move the page to British Cypriots or British Cypriot community? Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
"Further migration accompanied the Turkish invasion of the island in 1974 and the ethnic cleansing of northern Cyprus that accompanied it." By 'northern Cypriots', is this line referring to Turkish Cypriots or all Cypriots who were living in the North at the time? Because I would like to point out that 'northern Cypriots' at the time were both Turkish and Greek Cypriots. Furthermore, if it is referring to Turkish Cypriots, isn't it a bit harsh on the Greek Cypriots? Sure, we done bad things too. Neither side can deny that some of their own people didn't commit horrible crimes against humanity. But isn't the term "ethnic cleansing" and a bit too harsh? Surely, during a horrible war such as that one, the whole point is to kill the people who you're fighting against? The source does not mention anything about ethnic cleansing beyond the title, so I'm going to remove the second part of this line for now. We shouldn't turn this article into a hub for political point scoring, so please post here before you reinstate it. Personally, I think that impartial non-Cypriots should make the decisions on this article, as it's difficult for us Cypriots to not be bias. Zestos ( talk) 02:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)ProfMad 109.158.62.113 ( talk) 02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC) Thallasaemia is common throughout the Island. In my opinion it acts as a genetic indicator of a common heritage. The concept of Turkish / Greek Blah, Blah, is socio-politic 'one-god & mine', dogma extreme. Cf. Darwin & Gallapagous Tortoises. And No...? Cypriots are notably insensitive, all extremely bias. I await a soothing,objective response. 02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)ProfMad02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, in the popluation heading it currently says the following:
"the Museum of London reports that 100,000 Turkish Cypriots live in Britain—20,000 more than in Cyprus itself"
I agree that there is more Turkish Cypriots in Britain. However, this source is clearly out-dated. According to the last Northern Cyprus census in 2006, there was 145,443 Turkish Cypriots born in Cyprus. So if there is 145,000 Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus, yet the Turkish Cypriots in Britain out-number those in Cyprus then the figure of 100,000 is likely to be incorrect. Therefore, can somebody please state this in the article. Here is the 2006 census: http://nufussayimi.devplan.org/Census%202006.pdf WPC2011 ( talk) 14:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
I started a discussion at the RS noticeboard earlier about whether it was appropriate to add material to this article based on this PhD thesis. I did so because I thought I would get more input there on whether this would be considered a reliable source in light of what WP:SCHOLARSHIP says about theses, but it would be good to get input from any interested editors here, since this is where the material will go if the source is judged to be reliable. Cordless Larry ( talk) 14:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a thread started at: Talk:Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom#Pluralisation of ethnic group titles perhaps as "British people of <x origin> descent" as per Categories.
Contributions welcome. Greg Kaye 09:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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This article really needs to make it crystal clear that figures on Cypriot nationals do not include Turkish Cypriots who came to the UK from the Turkish Federated State of Cyprus (1974-83) and the TRNC (1983-present). Prior to the island's accession to the EU, Turkish Cypriots in northern Cyprus could not apply for Cypriot citizenship for 30 years, thus they arrived with documents which are not legally recognised by the UK and therefore not recorded in the official data. Sseevv ( talk) 12:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_2001_Ethnic_Codes Cypriot has an 2001 Census Ethnic Code of 07, followed by 08 Greek including Greek Cypriot and then 09 Turkish including Turkish Cypriot. Since the codes 01 to 06 are taken up by British, Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh and Cornish respectively, and the codes for Black and Asian Britons seem to be numbered in order of population numbers for each sub-group (Caribbean, African , Mixed Black... etc.) would this imply that Cypriots are the largest white ethnic group in the UK according to the 2001 census?
Jewish is numbered at 15 and according to the 2001 Census and they number 270,499. All Mediterranean's (including Italian, Portuguese and Spanish) are below Turkish, followed by former Yugoslavs and then USSR, then Other White, and Irish Traveller.
The Portuguese are claiming 500-700,000 people of Portuguese decedent in the UK (which clearly can't be right), Italians 133,000 and Spanish 100,000. The population of Cornwall is 500,000 so 430,000 seems a reasonable estimate for Cypriots. -- Pankration2008 ( talk) 13:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose that after "...the Cypriot British community is the largest overseas Cypriot community on the planet" the following be added "...and the largest White ethnic group of UK citizens after the indigenous population." -- Pankration2008 ( talk) 13:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding recent edits to Cypriot British, I will attempt to explain why the following edits are not acceptable.
If you have a dispute, please discuss it on the talk page or seek dispute resolution. Edit warring is not acceptable. seicer | talk | contribs 02:37, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I have now overhauled the entire article using a range of verifiable sources. Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions for further changes. Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently has two images, as shown on the right. Does anyone have any better suggestions? The problem with the first one is that if you click through to the photo, it gives no indication that the people in it are actually Turkish Cypriots. Cordless Larry ( talk) 11:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the 300,000 population estimate from the infobox because according to Pankration2008, it only includes Cypriots who are represented by the National Federation of Cypriots, which represents very few Turkish Cypriots. This appears to be backed up by this reference. We therefore can't use it as a population estimate source. Cordless Larry ( talk) 13:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
File:Stelios launches easyOffice.jpg
| |
Regions with significant populations | |
---|---|
London [1] | |
Languages | |
English, Greek, Turkish | |
Religion | |
Cypriot Orthodox Church, Islam | |
Related ethnic groups | |
Greeks, Turks, Cypriot |
References
I've just realised that "Cypriot British community" only returns this page on Google, whereas "British Cypriot community" returns 378 results. Shall we move the page to British Cypriots or British Cypriot community? Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
"Further migration accompanied the Turkish invasion of the island in 1974 and the ethnic cleansing of northern Cyprus that accompanied it." By 'northern Cypriots', is this line referring to Turkish Cypriots or all Cypriots who were living in the North at the time? Because I would like to point out that 'northern Cypriots' at the time were both Turkish and Greek Cypriots. Furthermore, if it is referring to Turkish Cypriots, isn't it a bit harsh on the Greek Cypriots? Sure, we done bad things too. Neither side can deny that some of their own people didn't commit horrible crimes against humanity. But isn't the term "ethnic cleansing" and a bit too harsh? Surely, during a horrible war such as that one, the whole point is to kill the people who you're fighting against? The source does not mention anything about ethnic cleansing beyond the title, so I'm going to remove the second part of this line for now. We shouldn't turn this article into a hub for political point scoring, so please post here before you reinstate it. Personally, I think that impartial non-Cypriots should make the decisions on this article, as it's difficult for us Cypriots to not be bias. Zestos ( talk) 02:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)ProfMad 109.158.62.113 ( talk) 02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC) Thallasaemia is common throughout the Island. In my opinion it acts as a genetic indicator of a common heritage. The concept of Turkish / Greek Blah, Blah, is socio-politic 'one-god & mine', dogma extreme. Cf. Darwin & Gallapagous Tortoises. And No...? Cypriots are notably insensitive, all extremely bias. I await a soothing,objective response. 02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)ProfMad02:56, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, in the popluation heading it currently says the following:
"the Museum of London reports that 100,000 Turkish Cypriots live in Britain—20,000 more than in Cyprus itself"
I agree that there is more Turkish Cypriots in Britain. However, this source is clearly out-dated. According to the last Northern Cyprus census in 2006, there was 145,443 Turkish Cypriots born in Cyprus. So if there is 145,000 Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus, yet the Turkish Cypriots in Britain out-number those in Cyprus then the figure of 100,000 is likely to be incorrect. Therefore, can somebody please state this in the article. Here is the 2006 census: http://nufussayimi.devplan.org/Census%202006.pdf WPC2011 ( talk) 14:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
I started a discussion at the RS noticeboard earlier about whether it was appropriate to add material to this article based on this PhD thesis. I did so because I thought I would get more input there on whether this would be considered a reliable source in light of what WP:SCHOLARSHIP says about theses, but it would be good to get input from any interested editors here, since this is where the material will go if the source is judged to be reliable. Cordless Larry ( talk) 14:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
There is currently a thread started at: Talk:Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom#Pluralisation of ethnic group titles perhaps as "British people of <x origin> descent" as per Categories.
Contributions welcome. Greg Kaye 09:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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This article really needs to make it crystal clear that figures on Cypriot nationals do not include Turkish Cypriots who came to the UK from the Turkish Federated State of Cyprus (1974-83) and the TRNC (1983-present). Prior to the island's accession to the EU, Turkish Cypriots in northern Cyprus could not apply for Cypriot citizenship for 30 years, thus they arrived with documents which are not legally recognised by the UK and therefore not recorded in the official data. Sseevv ( talk) 12:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)